Planeshift

Guys, he's not even 14 in the first place! :D He's more like 17 now if I remember. I invite you all to go into the fan channel on Freenode and use the /mode #planeshift +b command to see who exactly has been banning people recently (unless you're already listed there).

Age =/ maturity

I can tell you that one of the most respected lead administrators of wikipedia.org was 14 at the time he received his position.  This was, of course, downplayed to avoid just this sort of reaction.

If the OP feels that this individual has abused his powers, I would suggest he make his case.  I would hazard a guess that every moderator on every board has abused his powers in one form or another, either of their own volition or under orders.  Age would have nothing to do with that.

In my experience, however, the abuse of power generally amounts to a moderator not letting someone indulge in their god given right to talk crap.  That too, is not age related, just maturity related.

Originally posted by pstruth

Whether or not he has abused his powers seems contentious at the least.  And neither of your well-informed replies answered my question with regards to his age.

so because he is younger you expect him to abuse his powers?  i think that is a little harsh.  at 14 i would be more worried about how much work load he is undertaking for that position rather than what he is doing with it.

Originally posted by Tuxide

pstruth: I see no factual information here, there is no 14 year old running the fan channel and there is no GM younger than 21.

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What do you mean there's no factual information?  I asked a question.  You and Nurahk posted answers.  Are you saying that the answer you gave isn't factual?

Originally posted by UtMoon

He is another op in the channel. Big deal? No. I have never once seem him abuse the commands.

Originally posted by UtMoon

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Really now? My points were more than valid, factual, and not flamy in the least. Just the honest truth. Perhaps I'll post them on the PS forum... where the moding is a bit lighter.

I'm sorry, but I haven't seen the mods here edit out stuff that wasn't a flame.  Perhaps that's just my opinion, but your post was probably editted for a reason.  The PS forum is more tolerant of flaming, especially when the person being flamed is disliked by the moderators for giving truthful reviews of the game and its community.

Originally posted by UtMoon

Now, I am going to question why this was posted here, where few actual players visit, instead of simply going into the #planeshift channel and asking the person in question himself.

Perhaps because the #planeshift channel is a big giant flame pit, perhaps because it's run by 14 year olds. ;)

Originally posted by Tyrian

If the OP feels that this individual has abused his powers, I would suggest he make his case. 

That doesn't fly over there.  I don't think I've ever seen someone ever lose their position as GM or moderator after being accused of abusing his position.  Bad GMs and moderators have left the game before on their own, but whenever that happens it's made very clear that they simply decided to leave and no one "fired" them.

Originally posted by Death1942

Originally posted by pstruth

Whether or not he has abused his powers seems contentious at the least.  And neither of your well-informed replies answered my question with regards to his age.

so because he is younger you expect him to abuse his powers? 

No, I'm saying that some people think he has abused his powers on occassion.

hm... a smart kid that know how to do the job... that is fine...

On the other hand i had seen people in the 50s that never had a work before.. they just do a bit of work over here and there.. nothing real ever in their lives... lol.

know what I mean.

Originally posted by pstruth

 

 

Originally posted by UtMoon

He is another op in the channel. Big deal? No. I have never once seem him abuse the commands.

That's just your opinion, and it is contentious.

 

 

 

Originally posted by UtMoon

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Really now? My points were more than valid, factual, and not flamy in the least. Just the honest truth. Perhaps I'll post them on the PS forum... where the moding is a bit lighter.

I'm sorry, but I haven't seen the mods here edit out stuff that wasn't a flame.  Perhaps that's just my opinion, but your post was probably editted for a reason.  The PS forum is more tolerant of flaming, especially when the person being flamed is disliked by the moderators for giving truthful reviews of the game and its community.

 

Originally posted by UtMoon

Now, I am going to question why this was posted here, where few actual players visit, instead of simply going into the #planeshift channel and asking the person in question himself.

Perhaps because the #planeshift channel is a big giant flame pit, perhaps because it's run by 14 year olds. ;)

 

This is all just your opinion.  In fact, everything you post here has just been your opinion.  You say Jose has abused power but, you have no proof.  You say the PlaneShift mods have favorites but, again, you have no proof.

And he is no longer 14, pstruth, he has aged.

Now... Is there any point to this thread?

"Perhaps because the #planeshift channel is a big giant flame pit, perhaps because it's run by 14 year olds. ;)" -pstruth

'Perhaps' is a good way of saying nothing and implying much. The channel is not a 'big giant flame pit' as defined by en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming (Internet).  Interestingly enough, the deleted section of my post is not defined as flaming either, by this section of the article: "Similarly, a normal, non-flame message may have elements of a flame -- it may be hostile, for example -- but it is not a flame if its author seriously intends to advance the discussion." What I wrote was nothing more than a breakdown of the phasing of the original post, and why people took offence to it. There was no name calling, goading, or insulting aside from giving my opinion at the end that I am sad that you feel the need to be so petty, which was valid by your above statement and the following.

As said many times, it is not run by a 14 year old -now-. Three years ago, it was modded by a 14 year old, along with others who were not. Even by saying this is 'perhaps' the cause is showing that you are bias, judgemental, and yes, petty.

Try to answer the question without using slippery words. I think the honest motivation of the original poster is a more than valid discusion topic for any thread.