Darkfall

Originally posted by Xris375

Not only is the team "small", but it lacks a publisher from what I understand. I've seen games with more solid backing than Darkfall die from publisher difficulties alone, forgetting that as you pointed out, there's no advertising team to speak of.

Small teams can be success as well, just look at EVE. There weren't much money there either.

 

And then there was Dark and Light.  Need we say more?

Originally posted by Xris375

You are right. One is a levebased, linear themeparkgame (omg - you were an escaped galley slave as well ? What is the odds of that??!!!) heavily zoned and instanced just like WoW and the other will be skillbased, sandbox with with no instances kinda like EVE. The game couldn't be more different.

Yeah yeah yeah, we get it. Darkfall will be the perfect game without faults and will put everything else to shame and make fools out of all the doubters.

Unbefuckingleavable.

Originally posted by randomt

 

Originally posted by Xris375

Not only is the team "small", but it lacks a publisher from what I understand. I've seen games with more solid backing than Darkfall die from publisher difficulties alone, forgetting that as you pointed out, there's no advertising team to speak of.

Small teams can be success as well, just look at EVE. There weren't much money there either.

 

 

And then there was Dark and Light.  Need we say more?

Wasn't D&L that game where you had to pay for playing beta ?

Originally posted by Daedalus732

Alright, here's the deal. Either give me a release date, a publisher, or a pre-order website.

If you can't do ONE of those, you have no case.

No case you say.=)

Are you for real?

What do you think Darkfall developers have done during all these years informing us the fans with endless updates about the game? Been out partying or? Why dont you read up about all the hundreds of developer updates during the years. Heres is a good site for that. There is 205 written updates and news on these link. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29&order=desc .

Have you seen the progression during the years of Darkfall graphics? I quote myself on this since i dont have the patience to make something better for a person like you that is merely here on the Darkfall board to defend your crapgame AoC and troll Darkfall.

6 years ago, 2002: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2002/df_2002_009.jpg.html

5 years ago, 2003: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2003/7b.jpg.html

4 years ago, 2004: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2004/2004_12_5.jpg.html

3 years ago, 2005: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2005/darkfall05112803_1133163059.jpg.html

2 years ago, 2006: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2006/javaw_2006_11_01_04_07_13_0.jpg.html

1 year ago, 2007: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/2007/clan_siege_02.jpg.html

2008: http://www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/Darkfall+2008/mirdain_01.jpg.html

Any seeable improvements? =) Seems to me like a game under development, or?

Have you seen all videos from the Darkfall devs? Where does those came from of its not from a game under development? =)

Ok defended enough now. All games have no case then if were gonna follow your logic. All games under development isnt worth following if your logic is right. Didnt you follow AoC before beta were released?

But i can fill one of these in for you, i give you a publisher. Darkfall have a publisher in Aventurine thats been there first choice of publisher since 2002 when Razorwax and Aventurine merged. So it seems we do have a case. =)

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/2813-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-21-Community-Q-A

[QUOTE] Community: why has Darkfall had such a hard time securing a solid publisher and with the impending release of both age of Conan and Warhammer online aren't you concerned that the game will be unable to maintain a self sustaining profitable player base considering that the other games have giant budgets and giant advertising campaigns.

Tasos Flambouras: In very simple terms, it's not so much as Darkfall having a hard time securing a publisher as it is that publishers have had a hard time securing Darkfall. I'll explain: We do have the capability to self-publish, so the competition to any publishing offer, aside from other offers, is our own plan for self-publication. In our self-publishing scheme we hire the same services that most publishers use so in effect "cutting out the middleman" is usually to our advantage, especially since as a newcomer in the gaming industry it's rare to get a fantastic deal. Furthermore, getting a publishing deal isn't crucial to us in regards to development, and we won't just jump at offers. We have the "luxury" to try to do what's best for the game in this context. That being said, we have been and still are in discussions with publishers who present a good and viable alternative to our self-publishing plan.

 Giant budgets and giant advertising campaigns demand giant paydays. We definitely don't need to be a World of Warcraft killer to be successful, but the same may not be true about some of the other games in development. When faced with the question of budget allocation we decided that it's more important for us to first make as good a game as possible and then to market it on its merit. The opposite doesn't work in the long run, and quality would be compromised by taking some of the development resources and throwing them into marketing so we're betting everything on our strength. We couldn't compete with some of the large titles when it comes to marketing since it all comes down to dollars and cents, but we can still make one hell of a game. [/QUOTE]

They can selfpublish and its been there intention all along, just like EvE, but they been and still are in discussions with publishers who present a good and viable alternative to theirs self-publishing plan.

So you agree we have a case now then?

 Can we go back on topic now and compare Darkfall graphics with Age of Conan graphics?

Originally posted by daarco

 

"MMORPG.com should just delete Darkfall's forums and database here. It's a serious affront to anyone with half a brain".

 

Thats a bit harch to say, dont you think?

I think all MMO players respect your opinion to not wanna play DF, but to wanna take that away from example me....thats pure stupidity.

That someone with only half a brain is affronted by DF isn't really a bad thing. infact it's a compliment

Originally posted by Daedalus732

 

That's not how beta tests work. And I've heard all of this before about Darkfall being close. Just because you post the claim won't make it true. Give me a publisher, a pre-order website, or an official release date. If it's so close to being done, it should have at least ONE of those three.

Darkfall fans aren't insane so much as they just have an incredible amount of faith. Something I don't respect at all. What am I trying to achieve? Nothing really. Just wasting time while I'm at work.

Right, some Darkfall fan is telling me the "truth" about AoC. That's hilarious to me for reasons that I can't say or I would be breaking a certain NDA. So, so funny...

Yeah, I'll lose sleep wondering if you're right about Darkfall being the next gen MMORPG. Here's a little hill to get over for that to happen: Darkfall actually has to get into stores. Guess someone forgot to tell the Darkfall devs (assuming they exist) about that one.

Honestly this is just hilarious to me. People who know nothing about AoC trying to tell me of all people how terrible it's going to be and how great their imaginary perfect game will be once it gets released this year.

MMORPG.com should just delete Darkfall's forums and database here. It's a serious affront to anyone with half a brain.

Well, it's time for me to go home and get back to my regular life. Respond to this post if you like, but I won't be replying back. I only come to these forums when I feel like needlessly arguing with people over stupid topics like video games.

Oh my, look! another babytroll crying, poor poor soul. He got lost on his way to the AoC section. And no one cares about him.. no no children, don't poke him.

So you are at "work", killing time trashtalking the game and the users. Very mature!

Originally posted by Xris375

Originally posted by daarco

 

"MMORPG.com should just delete Darkfall's forums and database here. It's a serious affront to anyone with half a brain".

 

Thats a bit harch to say, dont you think?

I think all MMO players respect your opinion to not wanna play DF, but to wanna take that away from example me....thats pure stupidity.

That someone with only half a brain is affronted by DF isn't really a bad thing. infact it's a compliment

=)

Originally posted by Daedalus732

If the game is basically done, then there's no point in even doing a beta test at all. Might as well just release it over the summer and smoke WAR before it even has a chance.

I remember hearing about a game when I was in high school called "Dawn". They had forums, a beta sign-up, screen shots, videos, every