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randomt  3/27/08 2:47:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tordak

 The least restrictive game maps I'd ever played, were in SWG, and even then you couldn't jump up.  So getting up on buildings roof was near immposible.  As for the rest, there's always the building ledge to far,etc..., but if your thinking 2D mapping restrictive, then it's absolutely not the case.


 

Vanguard has full movement freedom.. if you see it.. you can get on top of it (especially with flying mounts etc)

 

As for AoC (and war) i've already preordered myself.. if it turns out to be crappy.. oh well.. the cost of trying is minimal as far as entertainment costs go.  Costs what, 10 bucks for a 75 minute movie?  The 100 bucks (or how ever it came up to with taxes for the preorder)  is like 10 movies, or 750 minutes of entertainment (on average), which is roughly 12.5 hours of entertainment, which is less than I would get out of the game even if it is crappy.  So its value to entertainment ratio is very good. And the devs get paid, companies get paid, and people continue to see MMO's as economically viable to develop and publish, which helps the players. (And why does it have to be aoc OR war? theres many months in between the 2, plenty of time to get tired of one and move on to the next)

 

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anubisss  3/27/08 2:51:59 PM

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Originally posted by Valentina

Similar to DAoC, and many other MMOG's that are NOT Guild Wars.

 

watch that.

I would edit that as soon as possible m8..seriously you will get a ban from these forums...

 
anubisss  3/27/08 2:54:13 PM

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Here is the necro lich form for ya..perhaps this will cheer you all up..

boo..

 
toadkiller  3/27/08 2:56:51 PM

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"And why does it have to be aoc OR war? theres many months in between the 2, plenty of time to get tired of one and move on to the next)"

 

Agree

It doesn't have to be and many non hater/fanbois will be doing exactly as you said , playing both to see which they like the most - or maybe even continuing to pay both , gasp

 

Only insecure folks feel they have to have "their" game be the "best" and spew out crap about the other one without knowing what they are talking about

 

 

 
anubisss  3/27/08 3:04:20 PM

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If its any consolation WAR has it serious problems as well so its not just AOC.

You could gather this by the sudden announcement of  WAR being delayed..

 
paulocafalli  3/27/08 3:06:50 PM

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If its true it will be very disapointing to me, i hate this kind of environment, that was one thing that used to annoy me a lot in EQ2. DnL was a disaster, terrible and bugged but the freedom i had to go anywhere i could see was just amazing! Same happens with SWG and Vanguard, freedom FTW.

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Xasapis  3/27/08 3:09:37 PM

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Conall's valley is build vertically so to speak so it may look smaller than the rest of the zones ;)

Climbing anyone?

Btw, because that guy hit a bug spot, the game does not mean that it has invisible walls. If he was actually useful, he'd report it (yes, they get removed as time passes by).

 

Edit: So far I've seen 4 months + old beta leaks. Since they patch roughly every 10 days, how many builds behind do you recon these videos are?

The truth about companies disliking beta leaks is that they don't come with time stamps, nor they show the improvements over time.

 

Bottom line, if you're undecided about this MMO (and any other for that matter) and don't want to give the box money to check it for a month, wait for the open beta or for some free testing that is bound to come at some point after release. Sometimes the game looks great but the feeling isn't there, sometime it looks crap but it plays amazingly. Nothing beats first hand experience.

 
anubisss  3/27/08 3:31:21 PM

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Originally posted by Xasapis

Conall's valley is build vertically so to speak so it may look smaller than the rest of the zones ;)

Climbing anyone?

Btw, because that guy hit a bug spot, the game does not mean that it has invisible walls. If he was actually useful, he'd report it (yes, they get removed as time passes by).

Sorry lol..i know its a hard nut to swallow but AOC has without a doubt got invisible walls and it has a freaking lot of them as well..

 
Xasapis  3/27/08 3:39:59 PM

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Noone claimed that it doesn't. It also has bugs, balancing and other issues. That's why it's in beta, unless I missed something.

Now, if these bugs etc make it in the release version, then it's another story. Until then, beta testers will find bugs (and hopefully report them) every day. That doesn't mean that the game is bad, it means that the game is not ready for release yet.

 
markoraos  3/27/08 3:42:53 PM

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Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by markoraos

Egad...

Invisible walls are a total party-pooper for me. There is nothing more immersion braking than that... Just the thing to remind you that you're playing a computer game rather than being in some parallel universe. It is totally beyond contempt that any modern game t