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Originally posted by felix77 

  I'm not denying that WoW has millions of subs. They do, they have less monthly then Lineage at it's peak. All Asian countries buy WoW in game time cards. Hourly cards. So how much do you think a person has to buy before they are counted? Yes I do think they inflate their numbers. In every country. But especially in Asia where any amount of time purchased can be counted. The ignorance is just not knowing their Asian sub model. Lineage actually had 6 million monthly subs. WoW might have beeten that but not by nearly as much as they claim.

Felix,  NCSoft publishes their subscription numbers in the quarterly reports and last I saw, Lineage is no where near 6 million monthly subscribers, nor is Lineage II and still not close even if you combine them.  Where do you get this 6 million subscriber figure from?

On the other hand blizzard claims about 4.5 million North America/European monthly subscribers and 5.5 million for the rest of the world (I have no idea how many other regions it is sold in).  If someone pays for time, even just a little bit, that still makes that account an active subscription.  Unless you are suggesting there is a minimum amount of time someone must play a month they count just as much as the next person who pays money to play the game, just like anywhere else in the world?

Korean game usually = god-awful grind.

Also I couldn't find any game play videos, just a bunch of trailers which are completely useless in telling one if a game is worth looking at or not.

This games graphics looks exactly the same as WOW so graphics wise WOW is not doomed but the graphics system looks real good. To be honest i still think that WOW is still in lead and with the Lich King coming soon i think this game has got some catching up to do.

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Prius Art

This game looks like it is a WoW type game, down to the graphics.   They have like 7 classes, and 3 or 4 races.   Looks interesting enough.   I think it is in closed beta 2 right now.   Don't see anything mentioned about an english version unfortuantely.

I don't get why people go on and on about how such-and-such game is going to be the WoW killer - or the <insert current-generation super-successful MMORPG here>, or whatever.

EverQuest is still somewhat alive - perhaps not nearly what it was BEFORE, but it's still alive. It's still running. It's still profitable enough to keep it going.

World of Warcraft topped it, but it didn't kill it - and whatever tops World of Warcraft probably won't kill it, either. I expect both World of Warcraft and the original EverQuest will still be floating around making money long after World of Warcraft 2 gets thrown out there by Blizzard.

Now, mind you... I WANT something that just totally blows WoW out of the water. It is the McDonalds of MMORPGs - I like it, but I know we could have better. But even if the best MMO ever is created in the next four years, WoW will almost certainly still be chuggin' along with a decent playerbase.

Originally posted by Teala

 

Prius Art

This game looks like it is a WoW type game, down to the graphics.   They have like 7 classes, and 3 or 4 races.   Looks interesting enough.   I think it is in closed beta 2 right now.   Don't see anything mentioned about an english version unfortuantely.

ps. I pray this comes out in english in the US! For some reason it also reminds me of PSO in a way. The Anima being your MAG and well I dunno it just does ^^;

why did u even mention WoW.

the only reason i hate wow so badly is cus of char custom. they should make the characters look more nicer not all look like beasts.

well back to the topic. the game looks good. char looks nice. looks like u can move and attack at the same time. im not sure about the last sentence. if u can, then the griding wont be bad. also u cant compare it to other games yet since we dont know anything about it.

the only thing we know about this game, is its fighting style, we havent even seen the skills.

It's a Korean Grinder? I'll pass thank you, I had enough of that from FFXI and that was japanese, not Korean, and if it has an item shop like most korean MMO's then I know I definetely won't be playing. Looks pretty, but I could never support a game that thinks item shops and grinds, instead of FUN are ok.

I have been playing wow since 2004 (on and off ) it gets boring fast,so i usually play after patches and expansions ,but what Im here to say is that most wow players (at least from my experience) never played another mmorpg before , i would guess like 70% of them, the game is good but with all the hype and money they are making which they in turn invest in advertising makes it hard for a game to beat it any time soon (even if the game is 20X better).

I have played many mmorpgs since ultima online, and i think if there is a company that can beat blizzard, theres a great chance that this company will be Mythic, ncsoft have not made any real games that impressed me, turbine just doest appeal to the main stream, soe has the worst custumer service ever and their best game is not main stream ,since  eq and eq2 are more rpg/pve based , wow appeals to a  broad scale of people since its easy to pick up and play it has alot of pve content and a decent ammount of pvp,and they always add more content (mostly items to hook people into reaching for the next set of armor ,which can become quite addicting) the game also can run on most of the computers and not just gaming machines, all those factors makes the wow player market really broad which in turn yields  tons of players. The massive ammount of players that wow has does not make it the best game, its just a really good game that appeals to  a broad range of people .

In my opinion eq and finalfantasy have better rpg/pve aspects than wow and eve online has a better pvp and crafting system and i believe warhammer will too . I think wow has already lost in those categories, wow is not the best game ,its just a really good all around game but subscription wise i dont think anyone will be touching the crown any time soon.