Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Vanguards combat system is almost identical to the majority of the fantasy MMOs on the market right now. There are some neat twists here and there, but still the same cooldown button mash as most other games. I am not saying the combat is bad at all, but it isn't a feature that sticks out anywhere above most other games out right now.

Conan is at least trying something new from the limited amount of information I have read.  For better or worse who knows where it will end up until after launch.  Not that I am buying into new release hype at all.  It might be a great game, but I'm content right now with what I'm playing to wait and see how this title turns out.

Well Vanguard is SOE and I'll never play another SOE game just out of principle of that company many times lying and ripping their paying customers off. NEVER again will they get a penny from me.

AOC is looking like it will be quite the overhype immature fest.

I am hooked on Lord of the Rings Online. Not for pvp. The pvp is pointless, but this game runs mint. Looks beautiful. Has a great detailed world that sucked me in.

Before you decide anything try the free trial from LOTRO. I never thought I would like it, then I tried it. LOTRO is now my PVE MMO. (EVE being my PVP MMO)

LOTRO is a true MMORPG there is plenty of roleplaying going on. The Tolken world is just stunning looking. The game engine is VERY solid and well working.

My only regret is not trying LOTRO sooner.

Originally posted by Shohadaku

Well Vanguard is SOE and I'll never play another SOE game just out of principle of that company many times lying and ripping their paying customers off. NEVER again will they get a penny from me.

AOC is looking like it will be quite the overhype immature fest.

I am hooked on Lord of the Rings Online. Not for pvp. The pvp is pointless, but this game runs mint. Looks beautiful. Has a great detailed world that sucked me in.

Before you decide anything try the free trial from LOTRO. I never thought I would like it, then I tried it. LOTRO is now my PVE MMO. (EVE being my PVP MMO)

LOTRO is a true MMORPG there is plenty of roleplaying going on. The Tolken world is just stunning looking. The game engine is VERY solid and well working.

My only regret is not trying LOTRO sooner.

So to sum up your post:

1. I hate SOE!

2. AoC looks like it will be an overly-hyped immature fest, even though I have no evidence

3. LOTRO online!

I could contradict everything you've just said about LOTRO, but it's just not worth it, nor it is on topic with this thread.

Besides, I just don't do arguments with Ron Paul supporters.

AOC offers indepth GVG warfare..or FFA. VG has ffa  pvp as afterthought.

Originally posted by Arawon

AOC offers indepth GVG warfare..or FFA. VG has ffa  pvp as afterthought.

You're right, Vanguard was designed to be a PvE game, they should never have stepped into the realms of PvP.

The current Vanguard isn't bad at all, for me as a slow player, it would be easier to catch up to high-end content. And while AoC might be good, I still think playing Vanguard now isn't a bad choice when you can switch to AoC after it's released.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Vanguards combat system is almost identical to the majority of the fantasy MMOs on the market right now. There are some neat twists here and there, but still the same cooldown button mash as most other games. I am not saying the combat is bad at all, but it isn't a feature that sticks out anywhere above most other games out right now.

Conan is at least trying something new from the limited amount of information I have read.  For better or worse who knows where it will end up until after launch.  Not that I am buying into new release hype at all.  It might be a great game, but I'm content right now with what I'm playing to wait and see how this title turns out.

 

 

nobody is denying that the combat system itself is largely the same.  It's the class design and skillsets that make vanguard combat much more fun than WoW, LoTRO, or any other game with the same combat design.

Vanguards does have nice classes.  It is one of the few very strong points of the game.  However the classes in WoW and LOTRO are just as strong, but each of those games have more ways to customize how your character plays.  All three games have classes that are very different from each other and offer differing experiences.  By that I mean they aren't just cheap imitations of a base warrior/healer/dps with a couple of different spells like most other games.

I have to disagree that the classes in VG make the combat any better than the other 2 mentioned games.  All three end up being a button mash of a few select "best" spells and a couple of utility abilities for various situations. It is pretty standard as far as MMO combat goes.

Conan looks to be the first game in a long time to try something new that would be worthwhile enough to mention.

Originally posted by Goldknyght

AoC. Because Vanguard has been dubbed damaged goods. The game should of been released when GU 3 or 4 was released but yet was a year ago. Supporting Vanguard is will only let the game tycoons know they can release a game in any state and people will still pay. which is BULL. come on vanbois i know your going to say something now.

I just wonder why you come to the VG section of the forums at all, it is obivious that you dont ever intend playing the game????????

We have heard all you bad comments about VG, move on already!

Originally posted by ethion

Well I've been kinda waiting on Vanguard to get a bit more polished before really coming back in strength and I've also been interested in Age of Conan.  For me though a big factor will be the combat system.  I really think the combat system in vanguard is very good but there is a ton of hype around AoC.  I finally found something that lets me try combat that will be like AoC.  Someone who is playing AoC said that AoC has a combat system very similar to Avencast. 

So if like me you are thinking about AoC you can check out the demo of Avencast to see what the combat system is going to be like.

Frankly I was unimpressed and all the graphics and features in the world won't make up for a poor combat system.  Be interested to see what others think.

I love Vanguard.  But I always try new MMOs and I'll definitely try AoC.  If I like it, then I'll end up playing both I spose :)  So far, I've been underwhelmed by what I've seen of AoC, but the only way to give it a fair shake is to actually try it.