Originally posted by salvaje

You can call it one of two things.

1. Payback.

2. A moral obligation to warn others.

 

Something is wrong with the way you guys conduct yourselves after 2 years.

Yes there is also something wrong with people coming in here never seeing them before and call us wrong for talking about a game its our forum our subject dont like it then dont come here . Its just that simple..

OP i can enlighten you...

Itis my right to post here and i post here because my statements are not allowed at the sucker O boards i had to move here thanks to the fascistic like ban and mute behavior or $OE  moderation.You seem to forget that the company forced us to leave betraying us by developing with our money a game which they knowed will drive us away and will destroy our belongings, all in the hidden and in front of us telling us lies about.

I will continue to use the power of posting my point of views about that company and the state  of  the sucky NGE and the inferior money sucking strategies $OE develops and on the other site delivers inferior crap.

It also feels good to remember  them what they did every day  till a satisfactory solution is reached were the vast majority  of Star Wars fans can enjoy a Star Wars MMO. 

And btw you being satisfied by something inferior and coming here to defend it  is more  disturbing IMO.

Is Star Wars MMO the big vision for all of us be part of it  or the way for some  small mean man to make fast $cash?   - i just love it our community  has given the right answer and will continue to  answer this properly.

Originally posted by Raiz1

 

Originally posted by salvaje

You can call it one of two things.

1. Payback.

2. A moral obligation to warn others.

 

Over a video-game?

 

Something is wrong with the way you guys conduct yourselves after 2 years.

Why do you care?

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

OP i can enlighten you...

Itis my right to post here and i post here because my statements are not allowed at the sucker O boards i had to move here thanks to the fascistic like ban and mute behavior or $OE  moderation.You seem to forget that the company forced us to leave betraying us by developing with our money a game which they knowed will drive us away and will destroy our belongings, all in the hidden and in front of us telling us lies about.

I will continue to use the power of posting my point of views about that company and the state  of  the sucky NGE and the inferior money sucking strategies $OE develops and on the other site delivers inferior crap.

It also feels good to remember  them what they did every day  till a satisfactory solution is reached were the vast majority  of Star Wars fans can enjoy a Star Wars MMO. 

And btw you being satisfied by something inferior and coming here to defend it  is more  disturbing IMO.

Is Star Wars MMO the big vision for all of us be part of it  or the way for some  small mean man to make $cash ?   

Above in red stood out to me.

What would you consider a satisfactory solution??? If its the game getting it plug pulled is a staisfactory solution then of course this will happen in time. Every game will eventually be shut down.

SO YES!!!!!!!! you win! You showed Sony lol.

Above in green.

Inferior to what game?

 OP, say you buy a nice new car with a 20k mile warrenty and the works. Your driving in your new ride and discover the blinkers don't work, it's mileage is less than advertised, and it's interior smells like old cheese. Despite these problems you still love the lil thing, so you take it in for repairs. And while the dealers details the inside and fixes the blinker you are told parts for the gas problem won't arrive for three months. Three months later you take it in, but on it's return are told you'll still get bad milage but you got sexah new seat covers!, please come back in 3 months, we PROMISE we'll be able to fix it then. Oh and we messed up your brakes, drive carefull till then :). 3 months later they fix the brakes, make the gass milage worse and btw, your headlights are always on when the keys in the ignition, not sure why, but we'll fix that as soon as we figure it out. A month later you take it in to get the promised fixes and when you return to pick up your car your givven a different one, and they say we think you'll like this car better even tho it's nothing like the one you bought. No you don't have a choice and no you can't have your money back. Would you just forget being treated in such a manner? Or would you tell all and sundry about the deceptive practices of said company.

And no I would not go back to a classic server. Looking at the way SOE has been dealing with some of their other games tells me they are still opperating in the same way. I'll not give them a penny, h3ll i won't even play a free trial of their products.

If you enjoy the game now, bully for you, but don't tell me what I should and should not get over. You're effectively, knowingly playing the equivelent of stolen goods and IMO that makes you no better the theives who "stole" it.

Originally posted by pepcfreak

Good answer above.

But is it not fair to say that people such as myself (who was like most in here who hated NGE and SOE for changing a great game) who play the game and enjoy it should be able to continue playing the game without making a post here thats positive without 400 people comenting on how bad the game sucks when i can garuntee 90% of the people who post here havent given the game a chance.

You and i have talked about this before and i know you ahve tried it. Honestly though with a few minor keymaps its the same game except you can now instantly play a jedi.

 

My next question is what happens theoretically speaking the KOTOR Online does come out in 2010, and its worse than NGE. And the game sucks. I mean yes BIOWARE is a great company. But if everything proves true, Jedi will be a starting class. And then most people will be so hung up on SWG style of play that everyone will be demanding BIOWARE release classic servers.

Regarding Bioware, my impression of them is that they make a good game for the sake of making a good game--sort of a pride in craftmanship approach to video games if you will.  They seem to really want to make something incredible, and blow people away with it.  That's the kind of philosophy that leads to a good product, a good reputation, happy customers etc.  It's win/win for all involved.

My experience with SOE is that they want to make something that will take the least amount of effort and bring in the greatest amount of cash.  It's like they're being run by a guy whose hooked on the latest "get rich quick" scheme.  The quality of the product suffers, customers suffer, the company's reputation suffers.  It's lose/lose for all involved.

Also, tbh I'm beyond the classic server option, unless it comes with a change of management at SOE.  The current management screws with people, plain and simple, and playing a StarWars MMO isn't worth the headaches and hassles of dealing with SOE as they are now.

And, I tried the NGE twice.  The last time was with the option of setting my controls nearly the way I had them pre-cu.  I found, however, that the target lock system doesn't function at all like the old style combat.  It really wasn't enjoyable to lock on target and auto-attack.  In fact, it was just boring.  It was boring to watch, and boring to do, and it was over very quickly.  The old-style combat was more strategic, had better animations, and took place at a pace that looked awesome and felt enjoyable.  Target-lock/auto-fire or point and click combat is still nothing like the original game unfortunately.  If you enjoy it, that's cool; I'm glad for you tbh.  It's not what I enjoy, and I've found what I enjoy in other gaming experiences.

 Also, the other game companies have never (that's right not even once) told me one thing about their game and done another.  They've never disabled items that I paid for or worked for (not even once), never deleted any professions, locked up my pets, insulted me on their forums etc. etc.  They've also provided customer support for the 3 bugs I encountered over the course of 2.5 years.  That's right, 3 bugs in over 2 years.  Once an npc was stuck in a wall, and CSR responded to my petition in under 10 minutes to unstick the NPC.  When I had the same problem with SOE, I waited over 6 months for a response in the form of a dev post that said they were looking into it.

So, like Suvroc I enjoy keeping in touch with people who experienced SWG.  We share something in common, and it's fun to chat.  I also continue to encourage SOE to get their act together for the sake of fellow gamers, and until they do, I like to highlight things so people can make an informed decision about playing their stuff.

P.S. Wow that car analogy fits SWG and SOE's treatment of its customers in so many ways.  Nicely done.

P.P.S. The OP asks what SWG is inferior to?  Are you kidding?  Play WoW for a while, and if you need to (which you probably won't) see how their customer service is.  Play EVE, or City of Heroes/City of Villains.  See how well things actually work.  See how the games are well planned, and well delivered.  See how your accomplishments are honoured.  See what it's like to actually be treated with common decency.  One of the reasons I won't play something made by SOE now, is that I know what it feels like to be treated well and play a functional and enjoyable product.  There's no comparison really.  SOE has a history of treating people like utter crap relative to the industry standard.  Also post after post on the SOE boards says that at best the current game "isn't that bad.  It's not as good as pre-cu, but it's isn't that bad anymore."  If these posts are any reflection of consumer satisfaction, SWG is even inferior to itself, the way it was a few years ago, before SOE tried to copy WoW and failed.

Originally posted by salvaje

Government regulation of the MMO industry is inevitable.  Why?  Because of companies like SOE.  SOE has shown no self restraint at all, no self regulation of it's power.

People are aware of relevant legislation, and the current loopholes that SOE seems to manipulate to cover its coporate "assets".  It's only a matter of time before loopholes are closed, and legislation is drafted to address virtual worlds and their impact on consumers.

What I profoundly want to say to people like Smed and SOE though is this: your unethical business practices are going to cost legislators and their advisors a huge amount of tax dollars and an untold amount of absolutely wasted time.  This is money and time that could and should be put towards solving real problems for real people.  But since your business practices unethically relieve real people of their real money on a grand scale, your behaviour will have to be addressed at some point.  What a waste.

Originally posted by pepcfreak

My next question is what happens theoretically speaking the KOTOR Online does come out in 2010, and its worse than NGE. And the game sucks. I mean yes BIOWARE is a great company. But if everything proves true, Jedi will be a starting class. And then most people will be so hung up on SWG style of play that everyone will be demanding BIOWARE release classic servers.

Give me a break.  If you like the NGE fine.  But you probably have better luck recruiting somewhere other than the SWG veteran refuge forums.  The only reason I can think that you are here is to start a fight. 

Originally posted by hgavin9

Hi I too played SWG up till NGE and completely agree with a lot of the arguments put forward.

 

I would be interested to know whether SOE are protected by stating "Game Experience May Change DUring Online Play" on the game case

That warning just means that SOE is not responsible for bad experiences you have as a result of playing "online."  They can't guarantee that someone won't be an idiot to you.

The user agreement, affords them some protection, particularly regarding their option to modify the game over time.  However, this agreement is not binding in some respects in some jurisdictions.

Furthermore, the user agreement does not enable them to commit fraud; that is knowlingly promote one product or service while they are planning to in fact deliver something different to the customer after payment is received.  That is the allegation made against SOE regarding the Trials of Obi Wan expansion and the NGE.

SOE avoided civil action by offering refunds to everyone they duped into buying the ToOW with promises of items and features for professions that they knew they were going to delete.  By providing these refunds they rendered civil action moot.  Everyone was offered what they would probably seek in a civil suit anyways.

Criminal law, in my view, is still relevant to the Trials of Obi Wan marketting, and the delivery of the NGE.  My opinion is, however, that you'd have to prove that SOE knowlingly misled people about the service/product they were planning to deliver.  Much of the marketting in question was done online and has been deleted.  Remaining online documentation has been "cleansed" it would appear.  Also, the criminal justice system in my jurisdiction is not up to speed regarding how to apply certain laws to virtual environments.  In fact a colleague of mine is a Crown Attorney (prosecutor in Canadian criminal court).  I know that he has absolutely no idea what an MMO is, and it would take some time for me to explain to him the ins and outs of  how they work, and how consumer rights legislation might apply to this relatively new field.

It's very likely that legislation will be drafted that addresses business ethics and virtual products in the near future.  Until then, SOE may on some level "get away with" questionable behaviour.  They have of course been found guilty in the court of public opinion, in that most of their subscribers voted with their feet and cancelled their subscriptions.  They continue to suffer the natural consequences of their actions in that many MMO gamers avoid all of their products like the plague.

Originally posted by Thunderous

Saay,

I NEVER said the NGE was illegal.  I said "someday it will be illegal"...  Like I said, Cyber Law is brand new, and we will see more and more suits as the industry grows.  We are already seeing Blizzard win suits against Gold Miners. 

What LEC/SOE did was highly unethical, though not currently illegal.  However, the marketing and sale of the expansion made for a game that would be vanquished only days later, in secrecy, is illegal, of which we both agree.

A Court is going to see that gamers devote time and resources (and time is considered a resource in some aspects) to an MMO, and though the developer maintains the right to change the game over time, that doesn't mean that players cannot sue if they are treated with poor ethics or even slightly illegal behaviour.

No matter what language SOE/LEC puts on the box to their game you can NEVER take away a persons right to sue for improper treatment.

Virtual worlds are new, but the time is coming where they will be regulated more heavily.  Precedent has to be set, and only time will do that, along with companies like SOE/LEC.

Woe betide a world with heavy regulations on everything, because implementing such regulations goes against so many things we value. Im saying that i hope very much that legislation like that isnt put in place, because it is not needed - a precendent is set, one that will be observed by MMO companies now and those to come, who will know not to make that ridiculous mistake; they dont need to put in laws restricting and shrinking the market! You may argue that some company may be stupid enough to do it again, and that with laws like this they would be forced to return it to the original game engine - but then continuing to play this game would go against everything you guys fight for, as it would be playing a game owned by a company who clearly doesnt deserve to run the game in your eyes, since they changed it in the first place, disregarding player's views/wants. Whichever way you look at it - with or without the laws, companies are now less likely to make drastic changes, but without the laws, you dont run the risk of causing market failure.

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Thunderous

Saay,

I NEVER said the NGE was illegal.  I said "someday it will be illegal"...  Like I said, Cyber Law is brand new, and we will see more and more suits as the industry grows.  We are already seeing Blizzard win suits against Gold Miners. 

What LEC/SOE did was highly unethical, though not currently illegal.  However, the marketing and sale of the expansion made for a game that would be vanquished only days later, in secrecy, is illegal, of which we both agree.

A Court is going to see that gamers devote time and resources (and time is considered a resource in some aspects) to an MMO, and though the developer maintains the right to change the game over time, that doesn't mean that players cannot sue if they are treated with poor ethics or even slightly illegal behaviour.

No matter what language SOE/LEC puts on the box to their game you can NEVER take away a persons right to sue for improper treatment.

Virtual worlds are new, but the time is coming where they will be regulated more heavily.  Precedent has to be set, and only time will do that, along with companies like SOE/LEC.

Woe betide a world with heavy regulations on everything, because implementing such regulations goes against so many things we value. Im saying that i hope very much that legislation like that isnt put in place, because it is not needed - a precendent is set, one that will be observed by MMO companies now and those to come, who will know not to make that ridiculous mistake; they dont need to put in laws restricting and shrinking the market! You may argue that some company may be stupid enough to do it again, and that with laws like this they would be forced to return it to the original game engine - but then continuing to play this game would go against everything you guys fight for, as it would be playing a game owned by a company who clearly doesnt deserve to run the game in your eyes, since they changed it in the first place, disregarding player's views/wants. Whichever way you look at it - with or without the laws, companies are now less likely to make drastic changes, but without the laws, you dont run the risk of causing market failure.

Excellent  points  Thunderous , corporations  like $OE  has to pull out of the gray zone and punished   for unethical  behaviour .

What is right has to become law  !

Originally posted by Shivah

 OP, say you buy a nice new car with a 20k mile warrenty and the works. Your driving in your new ride and discover the blinkers don't work, it's mileage is less than advertised, and it's interior smells like old cheese. Despite these problems you still love the lil thing, so you take it in for repairs. And while the dealers details the inside and fixes the blinker you are told parts for the gas problem won't arrive for three months. Three months later you take it in, but on it's return are told you'll still get bad milage but you got sexah new seat covers!, please come back in 3 months, we PROMISE we'll be able to fix it then. Oh and we messed up your brakes, drive carefull till then :). 3 months later they fix the brakes, make the gass milage worse and btw, your headlights are always on when the keys in the ignition, not sure why, but we'll fix that as soon as we figure it out. A month later you take it in to get the promised fixes and when you return to pick up your car your givven a different one, and they say we think you'll like this car better even tho it's nothing like the one you bought. No you don't have a choice and no you can't have your money back. Would you just forget being treated in such a manner? Or would you tell all and sundry about the deceptive practices of said company.

And no I would not go back to a classic server. Looking at the way SOE has been dealing with some of their other games tells me they are still opperating in the same way. I'll not give them a penny, h3ll i won't even play a free trial of their products.

If you enjoy the game now, bully for you, but don't tell me what I should and should not get over. You're effectively, knowingly playing the equivelent of stolen goods and IMO that makes you no better the theives who "stole" it.

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Thunderous

Saay,

I NEVER said the NGE was illegal.  I said "someday it will be illegal"...  Like I said, Cyber Law is brand new, and we will see more and more suits as the industry grows.  We are already seeing Blizzard win suits against Gold Miners. 

What LEC/SOE did was highly unethical, though not currently illegal.  However, the marketing and sale of the expansion made for a game that would be vanquished only days later, in secrecy, is illegal, of which we both agree.

A Court is going to see that gamers devote time and resources (and time is considered a resource in some aspects) to an MMO, and though the developer maintains the right to change the game over time, that doesn't mean that players cannot sue if they are treated with poor ethics or even slightly illegal behaviour.

No matter what language SOE/LEC puts on the box to their game you can NEVER take away a persons right to sue for improper treatment.

Virtual worlds are new, but the time is coming where they will be regulated more heavily.  Precedent has to be set, and only time will do that, along with companies like SOE/LEC.

Woe betide a world with heavy regulations on everything, because implementing such regulations goes against so many things we value. Im saying that i hope very much that legislation like that isnt put in place, because it is not needed - a precendent is set, one that will be observed by MMO companies now and those to come, who will know not to make that ridiculous mistake; they dont need to put in laws restricting and shrinking the market! You may argue that some company may be stupid enough to do it again, and that with laws like this they would be forced to return it to the original game engine - but then continuing to play this game would go against everything you guys fight for, as it would be playing a game owned by a company who clearly doesnt deserve to run the game in your eyes, since they changed it in the first place, disregarding player's views/wants. Whichever way you look at it - with or without the laws, companies are now less likely to make drastic changes, but without the laws, you dont run the risk of causing market failure.

Good God man, it's not like the sky would fall if there were some regulations. Hell, almost every industry has them and they survive right? Automotive industy, food and hospitality industry, medical industry, toy industry, etc... All those industries adapt to any regulation placed in it's path. If it can't adapt they can get out of the business and let someone who can adapt run the show.

If we are to expect no regulations in this industry then how about a free client download? At least that way there is no initial investment in the game.

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Thunderous

Saay,

I NEVER said the NGE was illegal.  I said "someday it will be illegal"...  Like I said, Cyber Law is brand new, and we will see more and more suits as the industry grows.  We are already seeing Blizzard win suits against Gold Miners. 

What LEC/SOE did was highly unethical, though not currently illegal.  However, the marketing and sale of the expansion made for a game that would be vanquished only days later, in secrecy, is illegal, of which we both agree.

A Court is going to see that gamers devote time and resources (and time is considered a resource in some aspects) to an MMO, and though the developer maintains the right to change the game over time, that doesn't mean that players cannot sue if they are treated with poor ethics or even slightly illegal behaviour.

No matter what language SOE/LEC puts on the box to their game you can NEVER take away a persons right to sue for improper treatment.

Virtual worlds are new, but the time is coming where they will be regulated more heavily.  Precedent has to be set, and only time will do that, along with companies like SOE/LEC.

Woe betide a world with heavy regulations on everything, because implementing such regulations goes against so many things we value. Im saying that i hope very much that legislation like that isnt put in place, because it is not needed - a precendent is set, one that will be observed by MMO companies now and those to come, who will know not to make that ridiculous mistake; they dont need to put in laws restricting and shrinking the market! You may argue that some company may be stupid enough to do it again, and that with laws like this they would be forced to return it to the original game engine - but then continuing to play this game would go against everything you guys fight for, as it would be playing a game owned by a company who clearly doesnt deserve to run the game in your eyes, since they changed it in the first place, disregarding player's views/wants. Whichever way you look at it - with or without the laws, companies are now less likely to make drastic changes, but without the laws, you dont run the risk of causing market failure.

Why don't you ask the thousands of people that lost their jobs, their pensions, and their livelyhood when Enron CEO's decided to run the company into the ground, cashing in their stocks first, cooking the books, and failing to tell ANYONE about it...  Why don't you go ask those people if regulation is a BAD thing...

Until the 1930's our stock market had little regulation and look what happened...  Ever heard of the Great Depression?  Look it up.

The ONLY thing that will protect gamers who invest THOUSANDS of hours into playing a game is regulation of some kind.  What SOE did was not right, and in any other industry would be illegal.

If SOE wasn't a privately-owned company, if they were PUBLIC and stocks were traded, John Smedley would most likely be unemployed right now, not just over SWG but over many other of his decisions while running SOE into the ground.

For WHATEVER reason you really like to stick up for SOE, a company who could care less if you play their game or not, but you really are coming to this debate armed with a butterknife...

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Thunderous

Saay,

I NEVER said the NGE was illegal.  I said "someday it will be illegal"...  Like I said, Cyber Law is brand new, and we will see more and more suits as the industry grows.  We are already seeing Blizzard win suits against Gold Miners. 

What LEC/SOE did was highly unethical, though not currently illegal.  However, the marketing and sale of the expansion made for a game that would be vanquished only days later, in secrecy, is illegal, of which we both agree.

A Court is going to see that gamers devote time and resources (and time is considered a resource in some aspects) to an MMO, and though the developer maintains the right to change the game over time, that doesn't mean that players cannot sue if they are treated with poor ethics or even slightly illegal behaviour.

No matter what language SOE/LEC puts on the box to their game you can NEVER take away a persons right to sue for improper treatment.

Virtual worlds are new, but the time is coming where they will be regulated more heavily.  Precedent has to be set, and only time will do that, along with companies like SOE/LEC.

Woe betide a world with heavy regulations on everything, because implementing such regulations goes against so many things we value. Im saying that i hope very much that legislation like that isnt put in place, because it is not needed - a precendent is set, one that will be observed by MMO companies now and those to come, who will know not to make that ridiculous mistake; they dont need to put in laws restricting and shrinking the market! You may argue that some company may be stupid enough to do it again, and that with laws like this they would be forced to return it to the original game engine - but then continuing to play this game would go against everything you guys fight for, as it would be playing a game owned by a company who clearly doesnt deserve to run the game in your eyes, since they changed it in the first place, disregarding player's views/wants. Whichever way you look at it - with or without the laws, companies are now less likely to make drastic changes, but without the laws, you dont run the risk of causing market failure.

 

Excellent  points  Thunderous , corporations  like $OE  has to pull out of the gray zone and punished   for unethical  behaviour .

What is right has to become law  !

Thank you : )

Free publicity was good publicity back in the 50s, even in the 60s and 70s, before viral marketing took over. Today, bad publicity hurts, good publicity helps. There is no doubt that bad viral marketing, which SOE brought down on themselves, have hurt them far more than any name recognition may have been generated (which is why people used to say any press, even bad press, is good).

Regulations are created by abuses and deficiencies that are discovered.

For example, building codes in the LA basin are updated as we learn more about what an earthquake will do to buildings.  Specific buliding methods are forbidden or modified in order to make buidlings more earthquake resistant.

So, if SOE finds itself beset by regulations that are created in reaction to their business practices, they have only themselves to blame for it.  If they didn't do the deed, they wouldn't have some government official breathing down their necks.

Originally posted by pepcfreak

 

Originally posted by Shivah

 OP, say you buy a nice new car with a 20k mile warrenty and the works. Your driving in your new ride and discover the blinkers don't work, it's mileage is less than advertised, and it's interior smells like old cheese. Despite these problems you still love the lil thing, so you take it in for repairs. And while the dealers details the inside and fixes the blinker you are told parts for the gas problem won't arrive for three months. Three months later you take it in, but on it's return are told you'll still get bad milage but you got sexah new seat covers!, please come back in 3 months, we PROMISE we'll be able to fix it then. Oh and we messed up your brakes, drive carefull till then :). 3 months later they fix the brakes, make the gass milage worse and btw, your headlights are always on when the keys in the ignition, not sure why, but we'll fix that as soon as we figure it out. A month later you take it in to get the promised fixes and when you return to pick up your car your givven a different one, and they say we think you'll like this car better even tho it's nothing like the one you bought. No you don't have a choice and no you can't have your money back. Would you just forget being treated in such a manner? Or would you tell all and sundry about the deceptive practices of said company.

And no I would not go back to a classic server. Looking at the way SOE has been dealing with some of their other games tells me they are still opperating in the same way. I'll not give them a penny, h3ll i won't even play a free trial of their products.

If you enjoy the game now, bully for you, but don't tell me what I should and should not get over. You're effectively, knowingly playing the equivelent of stolen goods and IMO that makes you no better the theives who "stole" it.

I understand your point of view i felt the same. It was jsut hen my vet trial thing came i tried it and it suited me again. As far as them stealing something and your calling me a thief just like them is prob the funniest thing i have ever heard. Your discription above can describe just about any MMO out there even the god almite WOW i remember when mages where so weak after an update they could bearly level solo. So i seriously have to say SOE and MMOs in general are always gonna change, sometimes people will like it sometimes they wont. But thats what that little "I Agree" button is there for everytime you log into any game.

 

And we dont log in anymore lol so whats your point...............

Originally posted by pepcfreak

 

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

OP i can enlighten you...

Itis my right to post here and i post here because my statements are not allowed at the sucker O boards i had to move here thanks to the fascistic like ban and mute behavior or $OE  moderation.You seem to forget that the company forced us to leave betraying us by developing with our money a game which they knowed will drive us away and will destroy our belongings, all in the hidden and in front of us telling us lies about.

I will continue to use the power of posting my point of views about that company and the state  of  the sucky NGE and the inferior money sucking strategies $OE develops and on the other site delivers inferior crap.

It also feels good to remember  them what they did every day  till a satisfactory solution is reached were the vast majority  of Star Wars fans can enjoy a Star Wars MMO. 

And btw you being satisfied by something inferior and coming here to defend it  is more  disturbing IMO.

Is Star Wars MMO the big vision for all of us be part of it  or the way for some  small mean man to make $cash ?   

 

Above in red stood out to me.

What would you consider a satisfactory solution??? If its the game getting it plug pulled is a staisfactory solution then of course this will happen in time. Every game will eventually be shut down.

 

SO YES!!!!!!!! you win! You showed Sony lol.

 

Above in green.

 

Inferior to what game?

LOL CUNGE rofl is inferior to pre cu.......