World of Warcraft

Originally posted by inseptra

MMORPG's are no different than other things, there quality will always be based on ones perspective, and expectations. Some people prefer hotdogs, some hamburgers. Some classical some rock. All a matter of what intrests you and how you enjoy it.

 

Well said, I will never get peoples need to bash others for playing a certain game or trying to belittle them and insult their intelligence becuase they choose to play said game. Play what you like, its that simple. Don't worry about what other people think, its what you think that matters!  

WOW is a fantastic game but after a while - just like anything else in life - it is going ot loose its appeal to anyone.

What MMOGs do is tickle our egos - we play to be better than other people - and so once you have invested time into a character you dont want to throw it away.  

I think any vaguely decent MMOG can hold peoples attention for a couple of years if you are new to genre.   I think a lot of people forget that WOW is not and never was just a mmog for mmo virgins.   A lot of the original players came from other mmogs and plenty of them have stuck around because it is a polished game.

There is only so much the genre can deliver at the moment and people who have played WOW for a fair while and competed with the best, been amoungst the first to achieve something etc cant be kept interested beyond logging on to play with friends.    Newer players entering the game have a totally different experience because everything is that much easier t oachieve in a mature mmog than it is in a new one and advancement takes far less skill/dedication.

WOW is over managed and policed and sooner or later every player realises they are being treated like sheep because rewards and achievements are soon downgraded to keep more people playing longer.

Expansions are really the only things that keep certain types of players coming back.   Adding new dugeons via patches only really serves the hardcore raiders and over rewards newer players that happen to have the time/connections to catapult themselves way ahead of where they logically should be.

With the availability of gold /game currency for $$ the spirit of mmog are greatly diminished but those aspects are unlikely to go away.

A lot of mmogs that didnt lay everthing on a plate for players innevitably suffer when a game like wow comes along becasue most players are too lazy/inept/dumb to bother to learn to play a game, to develop genuine skills and once its all been laid on a plate in a a polished game like wow few people are prepared to spend a lot of time learning to play a mature mmog thats new to them becasue there is little incentive to do so.

New games hype themselves up to get subscribers and unfortunately few if any of the newwer releases can live up to established games like wow and EQ becasue they are just not different enough or polished enough.  Warhammer is going to have a hard job of doing much better than the likes of lotro but I for one will give it a chance.   If I do jump ship permanently I wont be slagging off wow or my first mainsteam mmorpg becasue they have both been great to play at different times.

Abd if you think wow is full of poor mmogers wait till you log on warhammer in the first few days and weeks - it will be heaving with them as well as experienced/intelligent/self sufficeint high achievement orientated players - and it will interesting to see how long it is before the game developers start pandering to the lazy inept masses in the same way Bliz has pandered to them in order to keep the $$ rolling in.

I dont know, why lots of people call wow "polished". There is just nothing in wow, that could be broken. blizzard didnt want to make faults, so they didnt put lots of things into the game. I dont like it at all, I prefer MMORPGs

Blizzard did something wright when they made WoW. Yes it has 10 million players, and yes it is at the top. I think someone else said it once already, This is all personal opinion of the game and other games. Ive played wow before. Only reason why i didn't like it because of all the little kids trash talking over the game. Still, this is all a personal view of the game and other games we play.

Originally posted by zspawn

 

Originally posted by Housam

its obvious u havent played any other games..if u did u would know how games like ff1 and eq2 are far superior to wow :)

 

actually ff i always wanted to try but heard it was "too late to be a newbie".

 

Plus friends were not into the theme :P

But I respect it honestly, played the beta on xbox360 :)

hmmm, well a really nice feature of eq2 is that it is never too late for someone new, if yer not a jerk (the community in eq2 seems to ignore jerks and people with bad attitudes) and get into a guild of dedicated players any member above your level can become a lower level via the mentoring system and group up and help you.

Originally posted by Logeboxx

I played WoW since it first came out and I'm about as burned out on it as you can get. I've been trying some other MMOs but WoW just makes everything else seem really crappy.  Everything in Wow was done so well, on top of that it has such a huge support system setup with websites and shit. I play a game and the movement suck, its clunky and awkward. The maps suck, the Interface is terrible, or whatever.

 

Its a shame because I like MMOs and I loved play diffrent kinds before WoW but now...I just don't know.

The times are not that bad as you describe them. If you consider only mainstream MMORPGs then here are a few ideas what you may like.

If you don't like so strong focus on items, but more on story - LOTRO.

If you dislike the WoW easiness and the crappy combat, and want to lost polishness a bit replaced by bigger world, and better combat/crafting then you may try Vanguard.

I would not recommened EQ2 at all. It has average combat, but very very boring world (zones are terribly linear even more than in WoW, with a few exits connected to other zones)

If you want something completely different you may try DDonline or Tabula Rasa. Both have pseudo FPS combat system. DDo is fantasy focused on grouping and Tabula Rasa is sci-fi with a bit of everything.

And then there are sandbox games (EVE online, Ultima) but let's be honest, it's probably the exact opposite of MMO genre from WoW. So I wouldn't recommened that either for an ex-wow player.

I would not recommend Tabula Rasa.

It wants to be a FPS but fails. It wants to be a MMORPG and also fails.
 The FPS aspects is pretty bad compared to the *real* FPS. The setting is not bad for a sci-fi MMORPG but the polished, content and gameplay is just not there.

I actually would recommend Eve. If you have already played WOW, you may as well play something very different. I have tried Eve for 14 days and I am seriously considering making it my second MMO. The only reason i haven't is that I still haven't "finished" WOW (my main is only 68 with a 20 alt) and I certainly will after I exhaust the content on WOW during the wait for WOTLK.

I played WoW from launch and then quit in late summer 2006. after a lot of raiding to the highest level.

Took me until a few months ago to stomach an MMO again, now into EVE, at the other end of the spectrum from WoW, and just as well presented, but far more complex and immersive. You played a game and a genre type too much and got burnout, you will probably be back in the genre again just depends on time.

Tryed the free trial in 2 days, got to lvl 8 by grinding.

Got tired of it.

uninstalled it..

died to many times.

hated PvP