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Ghist
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Joined: 10/21/06
Paid MMORPG subscriptions are the ONLY valid rating meters because people have to pay to vote." |
that they have to fire Tom Chilton? The man is ruining the game. It's absolutely amazing that any character he plays or has friends playing becomes totally overpowering.
There is no balance it PVP in this game. The supposed E Game coming up will be a joke.
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3/08/08 12:59:24 AM#2
When are the whiny no girlfriend geeks who play for 10 hours per day going to realize its a game?
Furthermore, when are they going to realize its blizzard and they sell games because they rock. Face the reality.
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3/08/08 1:07:42 AM#3
Send him back to UO. He didn't quite finish killing it first. |
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3/09/08 12:22:46 PM#4
its no doubt that pvp isnt balanced but theyve even said that 1v1 isn't supposed to be balance (don't ask me why), time to suck it up and accept it. |
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3/09/08 4:13:41 PM#5
It's an advertised PVE game attempting "cyber gaming" e-Sports with a broken balance :P
Don't ask much... |
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Ghist
Novice Member
Joined: 10/21/06
Paid MMORPG subscriptions are the ONLY valid rating meters because people have to pay to vote." |
bump Waiting for the next thing |
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3/24/08 1:00:35 AM#7
Originally posted by iamct2327
EQ1-DAOC-EVE-CoH-EQ2-WoW-GW-LOTRO-WAR-RIFT-GW2(soon)-D3(soon) |
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3/24/08 7:10:53 AM#8
never heard of him. |
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Zorgo
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 12/05/05
Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising? |
3/24/08 8:48:04 AM#9
Originally posted by Ghist Yes, it is obvious that they should fire the man running the game who has sustained millions upon MILLIONS of active subscribers making World of Warcraft an unbridled success, a success which blew every other game of its genre out of the water and has brought and is continuing to bring Blizzard MASSIVE MASSIVE revenue that no game company ever thought possible. It is obvious that despite the phenomenal success, a success so unparalleled in gaming history it may never again be matched, that this man doesn't know what he's doing because he is uber, and has uber friends and because you have a hard time in pvp. Get real.
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namelessbob
Advanced Member
Joined: 2/26/04
"The internet is a series of tubes." |
3/24/08 1:06:34 PM#10
Originally posted by zspawnWhich is why I find this absolutely funny as anything can be. Anyone who has a level 70 can tell you what the weakest classes are and what is the most overpowering, but hey Super Smash brothers has tournaments too, and there are characters who are just inferior to others in that game as well. Let idiots think it is skill over brokenness. |
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3/24/08 1:18:21 PM#11
A little side isssue on the pvp front Are you talking about rogues making pvp unbalanced? They seem to be cheap easy fun, but gets tiresome very very quickly. I played on my friends rogue in some bg's, on my second run I was top of the damage/kills list. It took me 20 minutes to play a rogue after which I found it boring. So, now when I am killed by one it doesnt count to me, as I know I wasnt beaten by skill. You earn nothing from playing one imo. Removing rogues might help a bit in the balance. |
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3/24/08 1:21:49 PM#12
Originally posted by namelessbob "Idiots"...sigh..
I won't get into more elaborate PvP discussions since I can't be bothered, these discussions are all over the place :P but there are some classes / combos that are extremely hard to beat / impossible at times and skill won't matter just because the class you are playing is weak or the class you're playing against is strong... However Smash Bros is a "PvP" fighting game isn't it ? So wouldn't you say it's designed around that aspect solely ? So I don't think that comparison stands.
WoW has fun PvP but I think that resilience kinda destroyed the "oomph" in it since you don't see as many crits...For one, I always find pre-TBC movies more fun to watch than TBC arena ones...Even if it's a "noobish" stream of crits or whatever you wanna call it, it's most pleasing to my gaming eyes. However I do respect the "arena tactics" approach and a solid win by outperforming your opponent team but sometimes it boils down to very stereotypical specs + combos which is boring... I wish they could find a decent balance between the "oomph" and the "tactics" part, it would be nice...
Just off topic I do respect the Renataki Twins team by pulling off a 2000+ rating with 2 rogues mutilate. It's quite fun to watch their movie and I think it's worthy of respect :)
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3/24/08 11:51:58 PM#13
Originally posted by zspawn this patch comming up they gimp druids in pve raid when they were already passed over for raid spots. and buff for pvp when they are already op. |
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3/25/08 12:05:21 AM#14
I'm sorry to hear that, I wasn't following WoW for the past one month and a half But that doesn't really make sense tho if they're doing it... I remember when druids were wanted pre-TBC and slowly decayed to "filler healers" in 70s endgame..Then they became popular again with PvP...ridiculously... Anyway I was reading a "report" that the druid class is over-represented in arena implying some sort of "strength" over other combos/classes and it would need some tweaking/downgrading... It's weird to see they are BUFFING them even more where shamans healers are nearly non existant in top ranks... I played a hunter + warrior 2v2 with the same druid and easily dominated everything without much skill from my part to be honest :P But druid's pvp nature did give us a lot of room for error (where as hunter + disci priest didn't really I have to admit).
Oh well, it's a shame WoW plays so well as a game yet they manage to do all these random stuff totally in the wrong direction it seems from what im hearing :\ |
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3/25/08 12:19:13 AM#15
Yea, they are lowering the tick of lifeblood but raising the end healing. effectivly screwing them over for raids. they live off thier tick in pve while usually let it bloom in pvp. |
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3/25/08 1:15:05 AM#16
I think they should find a way to separate PVE from PVP regarding spells + talents. Dunno maybe implement 2 tabs in talents where one tab is PVE only + fully buffed for that And the other will be balanced for PVP and active only in BGs + Arena
Dunno I think they kinda messed up the classes with all this Arena balancing... And from what I just read they also nerfed hunter FD + drink / swap gear in PvE ? I don't see how that was a problem tbh, it allowed hunters to be more viable as surv + MM specs but now they're just pretty much force mana pot abuse + BM spec :\ I guess no reason to go back now, never was a fan of BM especially for PvE... Considering I also raided + geared around the PvE survival build reaching 1100 agi fully buffed (just for the 25% of expose weakness to all raid...) I'd be pretty much sucky as a BM :(
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3/25/08 1:27:04 AM#17
Survival spec for raiding lol. I guess you really bit the bullet on that one. MM is soo much more entertaining. You probably know all this already though.
Anyways, i think the pvp was fun. Yeah it was annoying when you fight a combo in arena that is almost impossible to beat, but hey its a rock paper scissor game. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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3/25/08 1:47:11 AM#18
Thing is I loved the surv spec. However as further we got (Hyjal / Black Temple) I had to ninja rogue loot cause there was no hunter gear for the spec.
Thinking about it, it isn't really good for PvP (it's fun for PvP but not viable plus no PvP itemisation on it)... Then for PvE it can be very good...but no itemisation again...SO WTF is Blizzard thinking ? :D Btw MM was unacceptable for raiding. You either went BM for the DPS or Survival for lower DPS but the great buff to the raid (+275ap for 1100agi on boss for BM hunters and their pets, rogues + enha shaman + Fury warr is a big deal in the total outcome...if you consider most of these classes somehow multiply their AP with certain talents so that 275 could well be 300+ for someone...)
Edit: MM + surv play the same btw :P You use the same style to raid in both... The only "spell" you get is silencing shot in MM (PVE useless really...) and Wyvern sting in surv (again PVE useless...PvP...meh, SOUNDS GOOD but nah...)...So it's all steady shot macro / multishot / arcane shot optimal rotations + mana potions whenever they're up... :\ |
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3/27/08 3:36:49 AM#19
Arena and BG are junk ... I like playing them but the rewards are too high in there and it keeps people that might raid from ever doing it ... heck I see guilds that have pvp only people in their guilds and what purpose does that serve them !??!! I wish guilds would start to kick out players that only do this and maybe chase these players away to Warhammer or something. |
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3/27/08 3:39:11 AM#20
Originally posted by zspawn
WTH did he just say ??? I don't like WOW for this as many a time you need a translator for much of the game. I just let people who want to waste their time on gibberish like this spec my characters for me .. hahaha |
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