Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by salvaje

I've not paid for the game in nearly a year.  But I get a trial on any of my old accounts at almost any time so I check in from time to time.

Nice try.

This is one of the fanboi tricks that are tried from time to time to somehow disqualify us from saying anything about the NGE.  It goes like this:

"Ok, you don't play the game, so you can't comment on it"

Then evolves to:  "AHA!  GOTCHA!  You PLAY the game, you hypocrite!"

This line of argument= FAIL.  Almost all of us practically get spammed with free trials on our own accounts, and any of us can use the regular 14 day trial at any time to check the game out.  So we can stay current in being able to critique the "great" work of this Dev team without paying SOE a red cent.

 

To truly evaluate a new publish and its new instances (for example) that means you've taken the time to do the pre-req quests and then run each new instance. So lets see, thats about 2 hours per each pre-requisite quest, and an average of 2-4 hours per instance. Thats quite alot of time you must be investing to do each instance (2*4+4*3 = 20 hours, give or take).

So that makes me wonder: if you hate the game so much, why are you still investing your time and energy in it? Ok, fantastic, I'm glad you're not wasting your hard earned dollars, but its still quite an investment from you if you know the each publish as well as you claim to.

So really, my point doesn't change and your argument is still invalid.

You're either still investing lots of time in it (as a non-paying returning veteran) or your logic = FAIL. Which is it?

Originally posted by salvaje

At this point, I can't even rationalize a reason for fanbois to do what they are doing here.  The deliberate "fight back" disinformation campaign to flood message boards with support for the NGE (by attacking us) has been a complete failure, because for one thing it gave us something to fight back against again.

I, right now, will say that I firmly believe that a number (not all, but some) of the most vocal and voracious fanboi trollers here ARE on the SOE or LEC payrolls.  It's the only way that the activities of some make any sense. 

There, the accusation is out in the open.

Why the hell not, SOE has accused me in the past of being on the payroll of their competition (the "cabal").

 

Lets think about this. If I were suckling from the soe teat, (getting paid by soe to be a fanboi here) why would I choose these forums? Its obvious the "haters" are the loudest majority. I mean hey, I'm not the fanboi posting threads like "Define how happy SWG makes you!"

No... we have plenty of "haters" posting their own threads about how they'd define SWG.

Read my post again. I post here because I want the right to rate games. I'm not here to change anyone's opinion. I too boycotted the game and canceled my accounts for a while, and whole heartedly support those that do the same. As with most things in life, money talks and sometimes, it talks the loudest. Get on with your bad self, give soe the finger and don't pay for the game. Woo! Grats!

I just want to point out that I'm having fun, and I'd like to understand what it is that makes you guys still so angry.

Don't worry salvaje, I still like you.

Originally posted by Darean002

 

Originally posted by salvaje

I've not paid for the game in nearly a year.  But I get a trial on any of my old accounts at almost any time so I check in from time to time.

Nice try.

This is one of the fanboi tricks that are tried from time to time to somehow disqualify us from saying anything about the NGE.  It goes like this:

"Ok, you don't play the game, so you can't comment on it"

Then evolves to:  "AHA!  GOTCHA!  You PLAY the game, you hypocrite!"

This line of argument= FAIL.  Almost all of us practically get spammed with free trials on our own accounts, and any of us can use the regular 14 day trial at any time to check the game out.  So we can stay current in being able to critique the "great" work of this Dev team without paying SOE a red cent.

 

Thats all good and well salvaje, but it raises a greater question. If you hate the game so much, why do you still invest your time in it? I mean, you're obviously spending a decent amount of time with each free trial to check out each new publish.

 

To truly evaluate a new publish and its new instances (for example) that means you've taken the time to do the pre-req quests and then run each new instance. So lets see, thats about 2 hours per each pre-requisite quest, and an average of 2-4 hours per instance. Thats quite alot of time you must be investing to do each instance (2*4+4*3 = 20 hours, give or take).

So that makes me wonder: if you hate the game so much, why are you still investing your time and energy in it? Ok, fantastic, I'm glad you're not wasting your hard earned dollars, but its still quite an investment from you if you know the each publish as well as you claim to.

So really, my point doesn't change and your argument is still invalid.

You're either still investing lots of time in it (as a non-paying returning veteran) or your logic = FAIL. Which is it?

Mmmmm Salvaje, he has a point here I think, your sig states you will never return while there is NGE ,but you keep checking to see if the NGE is getting better ? ........ please explain,my grey matter is'nt what it used to be so I would like know your logic...

Originally posted by Darean002

 

Originally posted by salvaje

I've not paid for the game in nearly a year.  But I get a trial on any of my old accounts at almost any time so I check in from time to time.

Nice try.

This is one of the fanboi tricks that are tried from time to time to somehow disqualify us from saying anything about the NGE.  It goes like this:

"Ok, you don't play the game, so you can't comment on it"

Then evolves to:  "AHA!  GOTCHA!  You PLAY the game, you hypocrite!"

This line of argument= FAIL.  Almost all of us practically get spammed with free trials on our own accounts, and any of us can use the regular 14 day trial at any time to check the game out.  So we can stay current in being able to critique the "great" work of this Dev team without paying SOE a red cent.

 

Thats all good and well salvaje, but it raises a greater question. If you hate the game so much, why do you still invest your time in it? I mean, you're obviously spending a decent amount of time with each free trial to check out each new publish.

 

To truly evaluate a new publish and its new instances (for example) that means you've taken the time to do the pre-req quests and then run each new instance. So lets see, thats about 2 hours per each pre-requisite quest, and an average of 2-4 hours per instance. Thats quite alot of time you must be investing to do each instance (2*4+4*3 = 20 hours, give or take).

So that makes me wonder: if you hate the game so much, why are you still investing your time and energy in it? Ok, fantastic, I'm glad you're not wasting your hard earned dollars, but its still quite an investment from you if you know the each publish as well as you claim to.

So really, my point doesn't change and your argument is still invalid.

You're either still investing lots of time in it (as a non-paying returning veteran) or your logic = FAIL. Which is it?

    What he does is what I do every now and then.  He pops in to see how the game is for a little spark of nostalgia and finds out that the trainwreck is still in progress.  Yes, we do spend a lot of time talking about the game that we used to play.  I guess it's cause it was trashed so suddenly (June 2003? to November 2005).  Other games fade out of mind eventually, but SWG didn't get that chance.  SOE burned it out too soon which leaves us wanting closure, if that makes sense. 

    SWG is dead.  I don't mean that in the sense that there's nobody playing it (although there is a remarkably noticeable population problem they're having), I mean the magic that the game used to have.  Whenever I logged in, I felt like I was really in the Star Wars universe.  It's really sad when I log into the game with the same name and find that it's just a shell, just a game and not a world anymore.  Immersion, customization and community were all intertwined making it perfect for me.  Made it perfect for a great many people.

Originally posted by Asmiroth20

Originally posted by Darean002

 

Originally posted by salvaje

I've not paid for the game in nearly a year.  But I get a trial on any of my old accounts at almost any time so I check in from time to time.

Nice try.

This is one of the fanboi tricks that are tried from time to time to somehow disqualify us from saying anything about the NGE.  It goes like this:

"Ok, you don't play the game, so you can't comment on it"

Then evolves to:  "AHA!  GOTCHA!  You PLAY the game, you hypocrite!"

This line of argument= FAIL.  Almost all of us practically get spammed with free trials on our own accounts, and any of us can use the regular 14 day trial at any time to check the game out.  So we can stay current in being able to critique the "great" work of this Dev team without paying SOE a red cent.

 

Thats all good and well salvaje, but it raises a greater question. If you hate the game so much, why do you still invest your time in it? I mean, you're obviously spending a decent amount of time with each free trial to check out each new publish.

 

To truly evaluate a new publish and its new instances (for example) that means you've taken the time to do the pre-req quests and then run each new instance. So lets see, thats about 2 hours per each pre-requisite quest, and an average of 2-4 hours per instance. Thats quite alot of time you must be investing to do each instance (2*4+4*3 = 20 hours, give or take).

So that makes me wonder: if you hate the game so much, why are you still investing your time and energy in it? Ok, fantastic, I'm glad you're not wasting your hard earned dollars, but its still quite an investment from you if you know the each publish as well as you claim to.

So really, my point doesn't change and your argument is still invalid.

You're either still investing lots of time in it (as a non-paying returning veteran) or your logic = FAIL. Which is it?

    What he does is what I do every now and then.  He pops in to see how the game is for a little spark of nostalgia and finds out that the trainwreck is still in progress.  Yes, we do spend a lot of time talking about the game that we used to play.  I guess it's cause it was trashed so suddenly (June 2003? to November 2005).  Other games fade out of mind eventually, but SWG didn't get that chance.  SOE burned it out too soon which leaves us wanting closure, if that makes sense. 

    SWG is dead.  I don't mean that in the sense that there's nobody playing it (although there is a remarkably noticeable population problem they're having), I mean the magic that the game used to have.  Whenever I logged in, I felt like I was really in the Star Wars universe.  It's really sad when I log into the game with the same name and find that it's just a shell, just a game and not a world anymore.  Immersion, customization and community were all intertwined making it perfect for me.  Made it perfect for a great many people.

"The veterans are NEVER going to come back to the the game as long as it's the NGE.

Get over it."

there we go thats not hard to understand now is it ? .. or does never not really mean never eh

   You can call it annoying, it's your right.  However, it's also his right to go back and see how things are.  Yes, I can read his sig quite well, but I guess I don't take it as literal as you do.

Originally posted by Asmiroth20

   You can call it annoying, it's your right.  However, it's also his right to go back and see how things are.  Yes, I can read his sig quite well, but I guess I don't take it as literal as you do.

Well maybe he should change his Fraudulent sig then eh ?

Despite your opinions, the game is doing alright.  The wow-clone stuff makes it get new people all the time, the majority of mmo players who are the ones who actually like wow-clone style games.

It'd be nice if it was still pre-nge and all that.. sure.  But a lot of people around here act in the same way as say.. a child who got his favorite toy taken away and cries foul about everything and anything that is not that specific toy.  Tampertantrum and all.  And we the general population on mmorpg.com get to hear all about it