General Discussion

     Does it seem strange to anyone else that here lately all the Euro servers are banning American IP's?, but yet we are allowing them to use our american server, Example would be Cabal Online for the US, We are banned from using theres but yet they are allowed to come on ours and talk all the trash they want and bog our servers down...

     Personally if they are going to ban our IP's here in the US then maybe it's time that the US bans their IP's from our servers...More and more games are coming out that won't allow american beta testers to try, so I say they should ban them from using our servers...

    Again that is my personal opinion, but it's been voiced by more than one US citizen....maybe someone should think about that.

Bans based on IP are stupid. Most players will find out thereselves they don't want to play on a laggy server. But why do you want to bring this US citizens crap into the discussion?

oh teh noes, them bad non-US poeple! how dare they?!

Originally posted by mtinnin73

     Does it seem strange to anyone else that here lately all the Euro servers are banning American IP's?, but yet we are allowing them to use our american server, Example would be Cabal Online for the US, We are banned from using theres but yet they are allowed to come on ours and talk all the trash they want and bog our servers down...

     Personally if they are going to ban our IP's here in the US then maybe it's time that the US bans their IP's from our servers...More and more games are coming out that won't allow american beta testers to try, so I say they should ban them from using our servers...

    Again that is my personal opinion, but it's been voiced by more than one US citizen....maybe someone should think about that.

well al the game your talking about are f2p..and the reason the happens is that the ma servers open a few months before the eu servers...so they allow eu players to play in the na servers...by the time the eu servers are open there is already a large amount of eu players in the na servers...so as not to cut them out and delete the account the workef hard on...and the eu servers block us ip because there are no point of them playing in the eu servers...anyway...why does it bother you to play with eu players...

It's because of licensing to different regions. For example "Sword of the new World" and "Granada Espada" is the same game (with minor differences) licensed to two different companies, Cabal Online is another example.

Basically one company is paying for customers in a certain region, can't have those potential customers go & play the (essentially) same game on another server. (It is regional bans that work both ways, so no american IP:s on a european licensed server & vice versa).

Regional licenses. A step back for the internet.

Now you know how others feel when MMORPG.com bars non-North Americans from their contests.  There may be good reasons for doing so but that doesn't mean it's going to be universally liked.  The Internet is international in scope.  Sometimes limits must be put on access.  Even corporations do it.

Please be careful with what you state.

"All" the Euro servers ban US IPs is false!

Please specify who/what company/game in detail you are referring to.

A link or source to proof this would be helpful also.

For anything that happens there is usually a good reason. It may be international law, payment or simply - since this is the open beta forum - area based betas.

I am from Europe and i was not able to participate in some american betas. This is ok for me, because i understand that using the internet  to connect an US server, does not automatically make my  actions falling under US law. This law is for US citizens.

I do understand the reasons  or IP banning, but do not accept them. I am from Europe and if , let's say, I find a job that allows me to play at day's time only, I would prefer to be on the US or Australian servers, because they'll be full at that time and I won't have to play alone. I have done it and haven't experienced lag more than on the EU servers.

Besides, most servers are area-based, not country-based. Which means, that the Canadians do not fall under US-law but still can use their servers. So, law reasons are not valid here.

Usually the main reason is, that the one publisher is famous for being good, while the other for the other area has bad reputation and IP banning is enforced to keep the gamers with the bad luck to live in Europe on the bad servers and to prevent overpopulation on the others.

This is the open beta/beta discussion, so my referring to the law refers to code of conduct stuff, nda etc. In early beta stages it even can damage a game if you have foul apples with you who badmouth, hype or openly tell anyone about game features you want secret.

After beta, when a game is on the marked, we have another case.