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SandboxGod  2/29/08 1:20:48 AM

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I hate visitng Age of Conan forums. There is no pvpers there left, jsut a bunch of hateful carebears that say pvpers dont deserve any rewards from PVP. No loot, nothing. Nevermind they can just gankbang a raid boss and take all their loot. What kills me they do the same crap, the same dance, the same dance routine everytime and keep getting loot.

The carebears have ruined yet another MMO :(

I think I'm gong to wait on Warhammer Online like most other pvpers

 

Anyone else bailing?   When will they announce pvp rewards for the FFA PVP server? What is point of rolling on an FFA PVP server, get killed left and right, and not get any loot whatsoever for PVP? We just gonna level like 10x slower then the normal servers

 
AmazingAvery  2/29/08 1:33:07 AM

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Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his brother.

 

Originally posted by SandboxGod

I hate visitng Age of Conan forums. There is no pvpers there left, jsut a bunch of hateful carebears that say pvpers dont deserve any rewards from PVP. No loot, nothing. Nevermind they can just gankbang a raid boss and take all their loot. What kills me they do the same crap, the same dance, the same dance routine everytime and keep getting loot.

The carebears have ruined yet another MMO :(

I think I'm gong to wait on Warhammer Online like most other pvpers

 

Anyone else bailing?   When will they announce pvp rewards for the FFA PVP server? What is point of rolling on an FFA PVP server, get killed left and right, and not get any loot whatsoever for PVP? We just gonna level like 10x slower then the normal servers


Wait let me get this right your bailing because of.... some forum posts about a game in beta and about an element of the game that hasn't been released yeat?

 

If its about loot wait till they announce whats going on there. The Beta PvP has just gone up last week, and there is 3 months till launch for balancing and such like.

Oh by the way Good Luck with Warhammer and its Loot:

Warhammer Devs said death penalty will be very light.

People at only-war forums voted 70% supporting "no penalty" at all.

Go figure.

AoC devs have always, I mean always have been in favour of some form of looting, I dunno how long you been following the game, but I can refer to stuff 2 yrs back. Its all about balance and decision of implementation. They have said they hope to maybe have some form of looting whether 1 item, 3 items, backpack items etc etc.

There are dealth penalties and consequences already, along with that will come the decision on looting types for different server types in the next 2 months.

If your going to get worked up over some posts about something you havent tried yet, and potentially miss something that could potentially be your dream come true.... then, well,  Thats just nuts.

How can something be ruined before you know its been spoilt or not???

EDIT***

So PvP and PvE levels are seperate, but its harder to get a PvP level as opposed to a PvE level. Its going to take a very very long time to get max level in PvP. You also loose PvP Experience when you die in PvP as well as gain it. By the way, whats levelling go to do with looting??

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Datcyde  2/29/08 1:42:09 AM

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Its only a game until you lose !

The best way to start out a death penalty system is have a % chance of losing loot.  Lineage II does this when a Pker gets killed theres a high chance of losing loot and when they get killed by mobs when not in pker mode. I think AOC needs to find out a way so that certain players will have a higher chance of losing loot then other players and  have some players know they arnt going to lose any loot yet. . This will make PvP way  more rewarding.

 
AmazingAvery  2/29/08 1:47:54 AM

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Which PvP system do you prefer: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=45593&highlight=poll

Add up all the looting types to No loot and it balances out.

Point is can't please everyone, sacrafices havent to be made in a mmorpg

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mahierl2005  2/29/08 1:49:31 AM

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Love you to death Avery, but I've been following this game as long as you have, and maybe even longer, considering I used to work at Blizzard. I think you r a real asset to this community, and I love reading your posts. That being said, I have to blow you out of the water here because everything u just stated is false.

 

I can refer two years back as well, and one thing I can tell you is.. this game, in every single aspect, is nothing like it was intended to be 2 years ago. The combat system has been changed 5 times to my knowledge, crafting.. well lets just say AoC has alienated crafters all together. You've already replied to such threads so I wont waste your time refreshing your memory on that one. PvP has changed multiple times, and classes have changed multiple times.

 

The truth is.. as of the VERY LAST state of the game announcement, developers OPENLY ADMITED that they DID NOT KNOW how their PvP looting system and blood money system would work. Or even if the blood money system would be in place.

Now dont get me wrong Avery, I am looking forward to this game as much as you are and I love what I am seeing, but at least be honest with the author of this thread. You dont know what PvP will be like, because not even devs know yet. If they dont know 3 months before launch, then 1 of 2 things are going to happen.. it wont launch in 3 months, or it will launch and the system will be thrown together last second. You know it, and I know it.

 

That being sai dI agree with Avery in most everything he says, and I will agree with ihm on this as well.... play the damn game man. Don't troll around here asking questions and expecting to hit the holy grail of answers.. none of us truely know. Play if yourself, and decide for yourself. At least then, you'll get factual information thats tangible.

 
AmazingAvery  2/29/08 1:55:43 AM

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Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his brother.

Sorry I'm not saying there will be full looting or other types at all, all im trying to say is that they have made a preferance for some form of looting right up until last month. Yes they don't know how it will 'pan' out yet, but I didn't say it was in or out.

Out of those Community Q&A videos it was actually me who asked Gaute whats going on with Looting and server types.

Off camera I was told yes they are still looking at how it will be presented.

All im saying is don't jump ship because something hasn't or has been announced just yet.

Yes there are things like blood money and loot types to work out still, sorry if I gave a different impression?

I enjoy your posts too mahierl, but where did I go wrong?

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Xasapis  2/29/08 1:58:06 AM

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To SandboxGod :

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=45593&highlight=loot

In this poll 2152 people voted:

60% asked for some form of PvP loot (player loss)

40% asked for either some sort of gain or no loot at all

 

Can the OP please direct us to the thread that convinced him towards what he claims?

 

To mahierl2005

We will be playing the finished game, not the concept game. Perhaps people will not find in their satisfaction what the final product will be compared to what they thought it will be a few years back. But that's ok, not everything is ever included and not every idea plays good in practice.

This is not a bash towards Darkfall, but there you have a game that people find great in concept as well. As long as games remain in that development stage, gamers think they found their perfect game. Implementation is everything though.

 
mahierl2005  2/29/08 2:02:20 AM

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Naw Avery, your awesome. You didnt go wrong per say, I just think they are a little more lost in this than you think they are. And hey, maybe your right! I just thin they really dont know what it is they want to do, I am concerned it will be thrown together at the last second. I suppose this , however, also concerns you as well.

 
sh4dowst4lkr  2/29/08 2:05:46 AM

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We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors but we borrow it from our children. By Some Guy.

In any case this game has heaps of hype and hype wasn,t good for tiles last year, and what follows this hype is the ager of people expecting the best, and well i hope this game will be good, because lol i prob will end up buying it I think that people will hate it...

 

 

Still though I am looking forward to Stargate Worlds... not  too much hype, good staff,  and...

*crosses fingers* good game.

 
Xasapis  2/29/08 2:07:50 AM