WAR (Warhammer Online)

I salute you OP!  I believe in balance (except when it comes to grudges) and welcome opposition to the 'war as a wow clone' inquisition.  As far as art styles, game mechanics, and so forth all i can say is man, if you were making a car would you NOT put wheels on it just to be different?  Of course not!  The effing car would'nt go anywhere!

Borrowing things from eachother in one way, shape, or form in ANY industry that focus on making the lastest and greatest thing, is paramount.  Simply stating that 'this game stole this from that' shows how ignorant and clueless you really are.

A plausible solution to the problem is to simply agree with the WoW cloneboys.

Prevent them from searching for more than that simple video or screenshot they based thier opinion on, and becoming interested in the Warhammer world. In other words, improve WAR's future playerbase by keeping the lot of them far far away.

Ofcourse it's not a WoW clone, it's WoW2.

OP - Excellent viewpoint tbh, I for one am waitng for it to come out. Fortunately I never jumped on the WoW wagon as a few friends of mine had. What some people realise, is that the most successful companies out there do 1 thing and 1 thing only, they cater to the masses. Sure not all will be successful, but the ones that are, have huge player bases and make fat $$ off it too.

Almost every mmorpg out there has things in it that people like, and it will draw them to the game. Realisticly it will be some time before the population of gamers mood changes were they want something far different. Until then all we can all do is wait for a game to release, hoping it will be to that individual's tastes.

Easiest way around disappointments is to play a broader field of genres of games. Tired of that boring grind? Try an FPS, or Some ActionRPG, or some hard core PvP game. Thats what I did, now I play a growing list of different games, and less then half are mmorpgs.

Maybe we will get lucky enough to get a groundbreaking game sometime in the next 5 years so some can call it "original" that way the can say all games after that are "clones"

Originally posted by Shifty360

A plausible solution to the problem is to simply agree with the WoW cloneboys.

Prevent them from searching for more than that simple video or screenshot they based thier opinion on, and becoming interested in the Warhammer world. In other words, improve WAR's future playerbase by keeping the lot of them far far away.

 

 Nice :) and agree

If you know anything about Warhammers history, you would know that WoW probabily ripped off Warhammer more then any other game in history. WoW's art style is a 100% rip-off of WAR which came out some 15 years prior to WoW. There is basically nothing original in WoW at all, it's just the best polishing job of other peoples concepts that has ever hit the MMORPG market.

Art Style + Backstory = War Ripoff.
UI + Quest system + inventory system = AC2 rip off.
Raid system = EQ rip off (and they stole EQ's raid developers to boot).
Battlegrounds = Countless other MMORPG's.

Me, I just like to give credit where it is due... Blizzard is the master of copy, paste, polish and publish and they take very very few risks.

Originally posted by Battlekruse

If you know anything about Warhammers history, you would know that WoW probabily ripped off Warhammer more then any other game in history. WoW's art style is a 100% rip-off of WAR which came out some 15 years prior to WoW. There is basically nothing original in WoW at all, it's just the best polishing job of other peoples concepts that has ever hit the MMORPG market.

Art Style + Backstory = War Ripoff.
UI + Quest system + inventory system = AC2 rip off.
Raid system = EQ rip off (and they stole EQ's raid developers to boot).
Battlegrounds = Countless other MMORPG's.

Me, I just like to give credit where it is due... Blizzard is the master of copy, paste, polish and publish and they take very very few risks.

This is all true in my mind. But time made me realize I wish more were as good at taking decent or good things and polishing them up to great.

Give credit where credit is due indeed. I think seriously nobody else does what they do and that means alot. If in the end they were responsible for getting MMO's into the USA's conscience they should be awarded for making all our online lives more fun.

The fact that others copy them ( not War, Im well aware) and many think this ruins things, its the fault of other companies really isnt it? We do definetly need better, deeper, more realistic MMO's, and certainly need less linear paths.

But I suppose that cannot take away from blizzard that they do what they do when all others doing what they do never fair as well.

EDIT

Occured to me they doubled the US market and did that almost glitch free, ESP when I compare it to other games with far less accounts to handle. When I hear someone complain about bugs in WoW I do have to giggle. I mean when I think of how much more bug free it is com[pared to games I like more then WoW, and they didnt have anywhere near 6 million pop on to make it worse. And then lag was not near an issue, when It does happen In WoW I feel like I am being cheated because it usually runs so well. That is a change.

So I hope that games with better ideas learn from blizzard what to do correctly and then we got somthing special.

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Ofcourse it's not a WoW clone, it's WoW2.

Of course you're not a troll, you're WoW fanboy.

Originally posted by Lycadrius

 

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Ofcourse it's not a WoW clone, it's WoW2.

 

Of course you're not a troll, you're WoW fanboy.

I am a retard today. Sorry

Originally posted by Ramzeppelin

 

Originally posted by Lycadrius

 

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Ofcourse it's not a WoW clone, it's WoW2.

 

Of course you're not a troll, you're WoW fanboy.

 

Um huh, troll you mention? that you?

I ask because I am the opposite of a blizz fan, in fact for now I suffer because of them, But true is true ey? Maybe I missed in your clever words what I said that was wrong?

In the end whatever game you or I thinks is the best ever will in fact have blizz to thank. because now companies are investing more money into MMO's and more people are playing, so that great game was givin that chance to be better and more polished through example of production.

I do already know the facts for what Blizzard has done, and I do can thank them for that. The reason I replied to the person is because he's been posting like that on this WAR forum. I'm sorry, it is I who's just tired of this person. But believe me, I find many games great, even WoW... though it's not my kind of gaming, since it's very gear-pending and such. But still, it's great. But I do wonder if you, Ram, have seen this person making senseless posts which is usually "WAR = WoW clone" on WAR forum... you're bringing a topic about WoW's success, and it doesn't matter a thing for me when it comes to this troller. Even though, people do have opinions of course. But posting the same troll-posts over is just foolish. So I basically gave him his own medicine.

Edit: Seems like I've catched your older quote, before you edited it to the "retard part". I don't want to make a "retard" reply on you, so I'll let it stay as it is now. Let's settle it down, dude.