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abistar  2/13/08 11:17:03 AM

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I swear all the time I watch the show and they talk about MMORPGs, when it comes to FFXI they do nothing more than bash it and minimize it till nothing more can be said to actually put a possible newcomer to the game watching that biased show. That game has a loyal fanbase and players in the millions, may not have 10 million subscribers like wow, which i'm willing to bet that they are not all playing, but it is a damn good game, for followers of the series and non followers that want to play FFXI please do so, it is very different than others, and really need effort to accomplish something, and you actually feel a big sense of satisfaction. Those two ignorant people hosting that show are nothing more than spreading the fanboyism disease around, you have to be the judge of the games you play!

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ParkCarsHere  2/13/08 1:32:19 PM

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Heh, I saw that their most recent show from yesterday I believe made fun of FFXI. Some guy called in saying he was bored of WoW so the hosts directly went to bashing FFXI. The thing that I liked was that Morgan said that WoW "guides you through everything, holding your hand" ... I was like yeah, that sounds like fun >_<.

Oh well, reviews for MMOs are never accurate anyways. Almost immediately after a review is posted it is out of date.

 
abistar  2/13/08 2:07:35 PM

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I was looking for  a review in the site, and funny how long time ago when they reviewed FFXI for the first time they gave it a 2/5, now I look up the site for a review, and find a more constructive review and not a 1 min one, like the ridiculous ones they air on TV. I can tell that this was actually written by someone who has played the game, and experienced it. What I don't get is that right off the bat they start bashing games without giving them chances, they have to understand that the MMO evolves, does not stay the same over time, something these two idiots are well aware of, but refuse to acknowledge, in the review that I read, also they pin in a video "Final Fantasy Theater" what a laugh I had there, years of wonderful games how they floor through, and I wont spoil it for you, watch till the end, the most crucial part and you will see what I mean by these posts.

 

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/239/Final_Fantasy_XI_Online.html

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curiindi  2/13/08 5:28:54 PM

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My best guess is that for a show which reviews all kinds of games, FFXI starts out too slow to receive good reviews - especially from reviewers who have a general dislike for "foreign" appeals.

 
Vanillatea  2/13/08 6:38:07 PM

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Because G4 sucks?  Seriously, I'm not even saying this as a FFXI fan.  They had Jhonen Vasquez on one of their talk shows a while back and couldn't even get his name right.

 
Aanio  2/13/08 6:47:50 PM

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They bash a lot of MMO's that aren't WoW.  I enjoy the network and the shows but I have never seen a show praise WoW so much, it's like Blizzard pays them to not bash any of the faults with that game.  Bottom line, Xplay is a bunch of WoW lovers.

 
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Originally posted by Aanio

They bash a lot of MMO's that aren't WoW.  I enjoy the network and the shows but I have never seen a show praise WoW so much, it's like Blizzard pays them to not bash any of the faults with that game.  Bottom line, Xplay is a bunch of WoW lovers.

Because WoW is the cool nerd on the block. If you don't like the cool nerd, you aren't cool.  And Xplay desperately wants to be seen as cool.

Too bad they fail.

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abistar  2/13/08 6:58:16 PM

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Originally posted by Aanio

They bash a lot of MMO's that aren't WoW.  I enjoy the network and the shows but I have never seen a show praise WoW so much, it's like Blizzard pays them to not bash any of the faults with that game.  Bottom line, Xplay is a bunch of WoW lovers.

took the words right out of my mouth there, every mmo game they compare it to WOW and now every consolevgame having to do with action/adventure and or rpg they compare it to Mass Effect, I mean they are great games, I own them both, but if they don't resemble these games in anyway they are for sure a downfall in they're eyes.

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ParkCarsHere  2/14/08 8:07:33 AM

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Originally posted by Cerion

 

Originally posted by Aanio

They bash a lot of MMO's that aren't WoW.  I enjoy the network and the shows but I have never seen a show praise WoW so much, it's like Blizzard pays them to not bash any of the faults with that game.  Bottom line, Xplay is a bunch of WoW lovers.

 

Because WoW is the cool nerd on the block. If you don't like the cool nerd, you aren't cool.  And Xplay desperately wants to be seen as cool.

Too bad they fail.

Seriously... that's why they change their set every 5 shows. It's kind of ridiculous. Xplay pulled the "10 million subscribers" can't be wrong card... and that was their only reason (in that episode) saying why WoW was great.

Anyways, I think pretty much everyone who doesn't play FFXI right now, or at least in the past, will have a very negative opinion of it. Look at D_Machine's posts in the other thread on here... he hadn't played in a long time yet still said he knew that this game sucked. People like him are all over the place, and why people have a negative opinion of FFXI.

However, reviewers have tons of games to review. When they see a crappy 3 hour long game they are happy - less work for them in pushing out a review. When they see an MMORPG, something that takes hundreds and hundreds of hours to even see a lot of the content, they are probably pretty mad. Do you guys really think they put the necessary hours in to *really* review an MMORPG? I don't.

 
abistar  2/14/08 2:35:00 PM

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Originally posted by ParkCarsHere

 

Originally posted by Cerion

 

Originally posted by Aanio

They bash a lot of MMO's that aren't WoW.  I enjoy the network and the shows but I have never seen a show praise WoW so much, it's like Blizzard pays them to not bash any of the faults with that game.  Bottom line, Xplay is a bunch of WoW lovers.

 

Because WoW is the cool nerd on the block. If you don't like the cool nerd, you aren't cool.  And Xplay desperately wants to be seen as cool.

Too bad they fail.

Seriously... that's why they change their set every 5 shows. It's kind of ridiculous. Xplay pulled the "10 million subscribers" can't be wrong card... and that was their only reason (in that episode) saying why WoW was great.

 

Anyways, I think pretty much everyone who doesn't play FFXI right now, or at least in the past, will have a very negative opinion of it. Look at D_Machine's posts in the other thread on here... he hadn't played in a long time yet still said he knew that this game sucked. People like him are all over the place, and why people have a negative opinion of FFXI.

However, reviewers have tons of games to review. When they see a crappy 3 hour long game they are happy - less work for them in pushing out a review. When they see an MMORPG, something that takes hundreds and hundreds of hours to even see a lot of the content, they are probably pretty mad. Do you guys really think they put the necessary hours in to *really* review an MMORPG? I don't.


Yeah I agree. to review mmos you need months of analysis and quite frankly people don't want to put the time on it. In general people who have played FFXI till mid levels are really irrelevant, there is many children that are infesting the mmo scene now a days so because they see a nice, structured mmo catered for a mature audience and then try it, they jump and don't like it anymore because 'it's too hard' but really the problem is that it's not simple minded as other mmos in the current market.