Originally posted by fusionx212

it's been 4 years lol. and wow hasnt done one major graphic update. implementing gradualy will stop the rush of cancellations.

Actually it's 3 years not 4.

The rush of cancellations?  I think you must have missed the latest subscription numbers released.  WoW is still growing and recently surpassed 10 million active subscribers.  I don't think they are too worried about the rush of cancellations.

If you want to see new graphics I suggest you wait for Blizzard's new MMO, but I wouldn't wait for 3 years after it's released to try it.

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

It doesn't need a graphics makeover.

 

The art design is such that it sort of "is what it is". That is the beauty of it. Since it is highly stylized, what direction should it go? The style is the style. It is very timeless.

I *highly* agree with this opinion. I think most of the new and older "Technically superior" graphical MMO's look horrible.

Um, is everyone missing the obvious here people?

The day that someone gets home, and tries to log into WoW on a computer that has been doing it for three years, and discovers they can't play the game is the day Blizzard betrays its customers.

Blizzard has more tech savvy then to ever betray its customers that way.  Make high-end improvements in expansions?  That's fine.  No one ever promised that there wouldn't be improvements in expansions down the road.  But seriously, everyone would be up in arms if Blizzard decided to cripple a segment of their userbase, even a small segment.  And any graphical upgrade beyond a few optimization things would do that.  With 10 million people, how many people are running close to baseline?  100,000?  50,000?  10,000?  How many people would their 'upgrade' prevent from ever playing WoW again? 

Think a little before you post people.

the GFX of WoW is fine, it's how the universe is made and have been in the past warcraft games, cartoony is what it is and what it will stay like.

WoW ain't a true grind from 1-70 it has pretty much too many quests and so many areas to level up/quest/adventure  in ect that you very much may never see it all, since there are always like 4 different zones to go to with each thier own beautiful envirement in your level area.

If you want eye candy, no artistic beauty but just plain eye candy, then there are many other mmorpgs to choose from, WoW is just a highly artistic mmorpg in the GFX sense, if you don't like it, then it's more or less your loss, not thiers, because 10 million and still increasing number of people like it how it is.

You waited 3-4 years before buying this game?...... Then all i can say to your GFX ranting is the following; "Duh.... what were you waiting fore, a golden invitation with your name on it?"

The low req. is among the reasons why WoW is so popular, you can play it on a laptop and it all looking pretty good while you travel ect.... WoW is one of the very few mmorpgs that looks god damn beautiful even if your comp ain't the best of the best, most if not all the other mmorpgs, look like crap with medium to low end computers.

My comp is pretty decent btw dualcore 4gb ram and a fitting GFX card but WoW is still the best looking mmorpg (in my opinion!) the art and how they made of it with the lights, are just near perfection, other mmorpgs like EQ2 and Vanguard are eyecandy but have near to zero artistic value in it.

IIf you want good gameplay and having a fun time playing, perhaps even into a little cartoony artistic GFX, then WoW is the game for you, you will have lots to do in any scenario. If you are just into Eye candy then WoW ain't the game for you, then you have to search the board for a niche mmorpg that req. high specs ect.

Each thier own right really.... since you already bought it, play it for the free first month i guess and start out with either Bloodelf or Draenei they have higher poly count models than the other races (lol) and both of these races have the newest and most pretty startout places, Bloodelf being the vast kingdom of magic very colorful ect, while Dreanei is actually more or less the same but more  strange alien-like the typical "for the light and spirits" theme over them. TBH i haven't seen much of Draenei areas, since i'm horde but for the looks of it in the vast Outland planet thier style is nonetheless beautiful.

May you have fun while playing but if you really wanted a nice experience you prolly really should have bought this game at either WoW or TBC release =S it's more a legendary feeling at those times, especially the TBC release, so i hope you catch the beauty of the game along the way, especially Outland is a sight to behold.

Originally posted by Qmire

 

Each thier own right really.... since you already bought it, play it for the free first month i guess and start out with either Bloodelf or Draenei they have higher poly count models than the other races (lol) and both of these races have the newest and most pretty startout places, Bloodelf being the vast kingdom of magic very colorful ect, while Dreanei is actually more or less the same but more  strange alien-like the typical "for the light and spirits" theme over them. TBH i haven't seen much of Draenei areas, since i'm horde but for the looks of it in the vast Outland planet thier style is nonetheless beautiful.

May you have fun while playing but if you really wanted a nice experience you prolly really should have bought this game at either WoW or TBC release =S it's more a legendary feeling at those times, especially the TBC release, so i hope you catch the beauty of the game along the way, especially Outland is a sight to behold.

He bought WoW, not WoW and TBC ( at least i hope he didn't waste money on the expansion without deciding he liked the original first ), so how is he going to start off as Bloodelf or Draenei, hmm?

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by fusionx212

 

question is when is wow due a graphics make over gameplay is solid and bountyful and the graphics are pretty but will they do a remodel on the graphics engine it's self .

From the Wrath of the Lich King FAQ: www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/faq.xml#1_20

 

Will there be any graphical enhancements?

Yes. We're currently working on some technical enhancements to the game's graphics, and we'll be discussing these further in the months ahead.

 

 

What he said.

I honestly doubt that people that have enjoyed WoW care much for the graphics. they're cartoony because all of the games in the warcraft series have been, World of Warcraft just wouldn't look good with lineage 2 graphics..
Maybe they could use more CG cutscenes, that was something i liked about the warcraft series and something this game lacks

WoW had never been about the gfx, other games put gfx first and look where they are today, in the bargin bucket struggling to stay afloat.

WAR should be a sucessful game becuase it had basic gfx (ie, no flashy DX10 crap etc) which will appeal to far more people, untill they realise its WoW with a new skin and come back to Wow ofc =D

Lets face it, graphics only matter once everything else is in place.  If the gameplay sucks who cares what the heck it looks like?  All you have to do is look at some of the software released lately with great graphics, but missing something.  Passed on by most gamers while games like WoW and Counter Strike continue to have a strong following.  Graphics are not the holy grail.  They never have been.

Honestly, i don't see a problem with WoW's graphics. It's not super realistic, but the graphics aren't terrible. It is a fantasy game, so it shouldn't look real. Anyone see the final fantasy movies that were completely computer generated. Those were just scary. Fantasy games and movies have to look off from reality, otherwise they would just be wierd. Another reason, mentioned before, is that more people can play with less demanding graphics. I just got a Dell Inspiron notebook for christmas, and it can run WoW. That made me happy. I doubt my humble laptop could run AoC, I doubt my desktop computer could run AoC without any serious upgrades.

As a long time player of World of Warcraft, I can say the graphics is the first thing I'd change.  Put your hands near the user-interface and I'll growl, but the graphics need more beef for the computers that are capable.  Sure, keep the low-end options, but add some upper end stuff.  Even Everquest 1 with its "older than dirt and we'll only upgrade spiders in this expansion" tacked on some pretty nice 3-D features to a very, very old graphics engine.  I've cancelled Everquest 1, but Blizz needs to get into gear in the graphics department.  The other request would be more diversified quest objectives.  Killing stuff is fine for your typical mass-homicidal sadist, but I'd like a bit more variety than killing ogres.  All-in-all, World of Warcraft is the best game on the market (in my opinion and in sales apparently) but it doesn't mean there isn't a thing or two to do to keep their edge.  Happy questing!

Noone has even mentioned that they could do like LotRO and EVE, and have two client versions. One with the regular low-res graphics for those with shitty comps, and a high-res client for those who have up-to-date and/or beefed-up comps.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Noone has even mentioned that they could do like LotRO and EVE, and have two client versions. One with the regular low-res graphics for those with shitty comps, and a high-res client for those who have up-to-date and/or beefed-up comps.

Yarrr, that is a great idea and I am surprised more games have not employed this.

I have no problem with WoW's graphics, their art direction more than makes up for it.  Plus it's nice being able to run 4 accounts at once on a 6600GT with 1 gig of ram.

    The 2 different clients, 1 for low graphics, 1 for high graphics idea is good in theory, but i don't think it will work. Hard to word what i am thinking, but I'll give it a shot. I go, upgrade my video card so i can play with the big client, it will either A) Disapoint me. I just bought a new video card for THIS?, or B) Be good enough. I don't think many people are going to be amazed by new graphics. WoW isn't about the graphics. It's always been cartoonish, why change now. The amount of money, time, and man-hours it would take, not to mention debugging, tinkering, and re constructing many models would not be worth it. Think about it. 10 Million people play WoW actively. The cheapest you can get a month at is 12 dollars American, preordering it for a whole year. What's 10 million times 12? For those of you who can't or are too lazy to figure it our it is 120 million  dollars. That's a lot of money right? But in order to upgrade the graphics, you're going to need nerds. Lots of nerds. True, the company already has lots of nerds, but they are all already doing stuff, or they wouldn't be working there. The amount of people you would have to pay on top of regular wages would not be very cost effective.

WoW is no where near the point where it need to remake itself to keep people interested (EvE EQ2 AO), change the gfx style and it losses the essense of WoW, WoW is about humor slap on a EQ2 skin and its all lost.  Look at the RTS games.. WoW looks like warcraft, and it has to be that way.

Saying that I would like just 1 upgrade.. some kind of foliage update cus when I am flying around the trees look god awful in nagrand.

We are getting improvements in WoTLK, just as we did in TBC just dont expect it over night.

In 5 years time its the "realistic" games that will look primative and the stylised games like WoW that will still look good.

WOW graphics are a piece of low poligon art, as EQ graphics were in it's time. EQ changed them with the Luclin engine and it wasn't so great. Specially characters lost their charm, and many computers had problems with the Luclin engine, mine included, having to lower options and basically fighting to get a few FPS which sucks.

So... WOW, don't change anything!

Firstly this was not a gripe Topic about graphics i was merely curious as to see what WoW would do, or have plans to do with graphics as im starting the game. As you say 3 years to late but as such if i do plan on staying in WoW. I want value for my money as time goes on. i do not want to be stuck in a 3d low polly graphic slug that was used as the engine for WoW 3

secondly i wasnt being ignorant :| but companys like wow have project teams like any I.T. company does so to say wow would not upgrade graphics is a bit silly.

keep the slap stick humour graphics it's fine by me. but it would not hurt to upgrade shaders and improve texture packs they dont take alot i know it's seemless in the WoW world. I can run WoW on top settings my rig is quadcore too and have over 4 gig of ram and 8800gtx. my gripe is that i want more definition in textures i know it takes alot to implement that into a game as big as WoW  

gameplay is faultless tho

why dont wow implement a fraction of that 120 million bucks back into the game. you spend money to make more money.

Geez folks, how many times do I have to say it, the graphics are not that important, its all about the quality of the game play.

Oh wait, we're talking about WOW, never mind. 

Originally posted by fusionx212

secondly i wasnt being ignorant :| but companys like wow have project teams like any I.T. company does so to say wow would not upgrade graphics is a bit silly.

gameplay is faultless tho

why dont wow implement a fraction of that 120 million bucks back into the game. you spend money to make more money.

They put plenty of money back into the game...it's just not on the graphics.  Have you considered maybe that's the reason that gameplay is faultless?  Graphics are overated.  10 million people apparently are aware of this.