I'm all for it. I sincerely hope that peons4hire are out of business for good, and that they die in a little hole somewhere. I'm sick of gold sellers, and buyers for that matter.

Originally posted by Death1942

don't mess with a 600 pound gorilla that rakes in millions a week and thus can get one of THE best lawyer teams in the world.

 

i say let the gold farming pwning begin

Did you read it?

All the "600lbs gorilla" was able to do was make one company stop spamming in chat.

While that is "super" in some minds, it does nothing, zero at all, to stop and prevent RMT.

Hooray for us, its actually very disappointing news. Now we can all count getting bombarded with even more  /tells and spam mail.

Originally posted by paulscott

this is any companies grand chance.  make money off gold sellers and look like heros to the player base.

 

so true

damn i just bought gold from them to

Now I don't know how long this stuff has been going on I still wonder if isn't a bit late? Wouldn't it have been better to do this earlier as they've been pestering the chats pretty much since the game started.

Originally posted by Torak

 

Originally posted by Death1942

don't mess with a 600 pound gorilla that rakes in millions a week and thus can get one of THE best lawyer teams in the world.

 

i say let the gold farming pwning begin

Did you read it?

 

All the "600lbs gorilla" was able to do was make one company stop spamming in chat.

While that is "super" in some minds, it does nothing, zero at all, to stop and prevent RMT.

Hooray for us, its actually very disappointing news. Now we can all count getting bombarded with even more  /tells and spam mail.

Thanks OP for the post!

Originally posted by Torak

 

Originally posted by Death1942

don't mess with a 600 pound gorilla that rakes in millions a week and thus can get one of THE best lawyer teams in the world.

 

i say let the gold farming pwning begin

Did you read it?

 

All the "600lbs gorilla" was able to do was make one company stop spamming in chat.

While that is "super" in some minds, it does nothing, zero at all, to stop and prevent RMT.

Hooray for us, its actually very disappointing news. Now we can all count getting bombarded with even more  /tells and spam mail.

Did you read the post above that said their site is "Server Not Found" now?  This has all appearances of a total victory - it looks like they have simply dropped off the map.  Now, they may simply reform as a new company - in fact, I think that is likely.  But in the meantime, they are losing money daily.  And all the other RMT companies have now been given a clear sign that their own operations can likewise be disrupted if they get too out of hand.

The bigger companies make a lot of money from the reputation and name recognition they have built up.  They really don't *want* to have to reform a new company under a new name.  They don't want to lose the money from the time it takes to do that, or from the sales lost as they build a new reputation.

This is all about the benjamins.  ;)  Hit the gold farmers where it hurts -the wallet! - hard enough, and often enough, and you'll do some serious damage.

Originally posted by Owyn

 

Originally posted by Torak

 

Originally posted by Death1942

don't mess with a 600 pound gorilla that rakes in millions a week and thus can get one of THE best lawyer teams in the world.

 

i say let the gold farming pwning begin

Did you read it?

 

All the "600lbs gorilla" was able to do was make one company stop spamming in chat.

While that is "super" in some minds, it does nothing, zero at all, to stop and prevent RMT.

Hooray for us, its actually very disappointing news. Now we can all count getting bombarded with even more  /tells and spam mail.

 

Did you read the post above that said their site is "Server Not Found" now?  This has all appearances of a total victory - it looks like they have simply dropped off the map.  Now, they may simply reform as a new company - in fact, I think that is likely.  But in the meantime, they are losing money daily.  And all the other RMT companies have now been given a clear sign that their own operations can likewise be disrupted if they get too out of hand.

The bigger companies make a lot of money from the reputation and name recognition they have built up.  They really don't *want* to have to reform a new company under a new name.  They don't want to lose the money from the time it takes to do that, or from the sales lost as they build a new reputation.

This is all about the benjamins.  ;)  Hit the gold farmers where it hurts -the wallet! - hard enough, and often enough, and you'll do some serious damage.

You are missing my point.

All they won was a "chat channel" victory. They did not win on the basis of virtual property. It is a hollow victory.

I don't want to spoil the fun, but this is the Internet. The law in one country doensn't automatic apply to others countries. While Blizzard has won, it has only won in that country.  I serious doubt Blizzard would have won here in the Netherlands.

Congrats to Bliz.  Another demonstration of leadership that takes action.

Problem seems to be the people who are goldselling are using the trial accounts (all the ones I've met anyway).  You can demonstrate this by finding one of these ad-blasters in Goldshire or Stormwind, then try to hand them something: "Cannot trade with trial accounts".  It's a tough problem for Blizzard because it is the trial accounts that bring in new players.  I wish I had a solution to offer and would be interested in seeing what comes of it. 

Lol what a pointless law suit.  Anyone who plays WoW knows that gold sellers spam every main city and nothing is done about it.  Good job blizzard for a pointless law suit rather than banning people on the spot for spamming about gold selling

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Lol what a pointless law suit.  Anyone who plays WoW knows that gold sellers spam every main city and nothing is done about it.  Good job blizzard for a pointless law suit rather than banning people on the spot for spamming about gold selling

Um.... yeah, because everyone knows booting individual accounts is much more effective than LEGAL ACTION...

it paves the way for taking *future* legal action against goldsellers

good job Blizzard

A small victory, but a victory none-the-less. While I'm not as militant against Gold Sellers as I once was, I still applaud Blizzard for prosecuting the case.

I think someone was looking for the other Blizzard case involving enforcement of their EULA: Link.

By signing the TOUs and EULAs, Appellants expressly relinquished their rights to reverse engineer. Summary judgment on this issue was properly granted in favor of Blizzard and Vivendi.

<Awaits annual debate on EULA's with my good friend Baff>

Hey, I've got a question. I've always wondered how gold spammers accomplish what they do.  I mean, what method do they use to log into the game and in a short amount of time manage to send out  mail messages or private tells to hundreds, if not thousands of players in a short period of time.   How do they extract our character names, directly from the game client itself?  Then, how do they send out emails/messages so quickly.  I know I can't do the same thing from my character in most games. (not talking about global chat channel spamming)

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Originally posted by Nadia
it paves the way for taking *future* legal action against goldsellers

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You obviously don't understand what a settlement is.

truly a sad story...

No more casual gaming for me.

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Originally posted by Torak

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Originally posted by Zorvan

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Originally posted by Owyn

A powerful step forward. This is excellent news. A shame it was a settlement, and they didn't push for more than that, but still potent as a warning to other borderline-illegal RMT businesses that the foundation of their business is built on slippery sand.

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True, they settled. But not only did the Blizzard get the injunction plus whatever the undisclosed settlement amounted to, but this is the first case to have the EULA and ToS of a game validated in a court of law. So now all the buyers and sellers who come here saying "EULA don't mean squat" have just been effectively wtfpwned.

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Making any use of the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system to advertise any website, business, or commercial endeavor, including any business associated with In Game Dollar, LLC or www.peons4hire.com.
Sending messages to the World of Warcraft® servers, the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system or any other computer used by Blizzard in connection with the World of Warcraft® game, if such messages mention or advertise the website www.peons4hire.com, In Game Dollar LLC or any other commercial endeavor.
Making any unauthorized use, or obtaining any unauthorized access to Blizzard’s computer systems or network.
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Unfortunately,
This didn't do anything at all to discourage a gold seller from doing anything but using an ingame chat system...maybe. How long did this case take?
This does not hit on the key issue with is the legal status of virtual items.

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Thank you! Someone was thinking what i was. This isnt a big step forward... this is a step in the "you're using up our bandwidth and the players are losing the "fantasy" of being truly "immersed" (whatever that is) in our game!! (i guess being immersed is grinding gold/rep for hours on end). Not only that but i would rather see mindless spam in a game about power leveling and the "cheapest gold for this server" all the time instead of, and i quote from something i saw in a game not too long ago "You know how i know that you're gay? Cause you're AFK!"

yeah. right people.

People have bought gold and items prior to WoW and they will continue to buy gold/items after WoW.

This simply means that there cant be open advertisement in game.

Originally posted by Sunrider

 

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Originally posted by Torak

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Originally posted by Zorvan

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Originally posted by Owyn

 

A powerful step forward. This is excellent news. A shame it was a settlement, and they didn't push for more than that, but still potent as a warning to other borderline-illegal RMT businesses that the foundation of their business is built on slippery sand.

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True, they settled. But not only did the Blizzard get the injunction plus whatever the undisclosed settlement amounted to, but this is the first case to have the EULA and ToS of a game validated in a court of law. So now all the buyers and sellers who come here saying "EULA don't mean squat" have just been effectively wtfpwned.

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Making any use of the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system to advertise any website, business, or commercial endeavor, including any business associated with In Game Dollar, LLC or www.peons4hire.com.
Sending messages to the World of Warcraft® servers, the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system or any other computer used by Blizzard in connection with the World of Warcraft® game, if such messages mention or advertise the website www.peons4hire.com, In Game Dollar LLC or any other commercial endeavor.
Making any unauthorized use, or obtaining any unauthorized access to Blizzard’s computer systems or network.
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Unfortunately,
This didn't do anything at all to discourage a gold seller from doing anything but using an ingame chat system...maybe. How long did this case take?
This does not hit on the key issue with is the legal status of virtual items.

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Thank you! Someone was thinking what i was. This isnt a big step forward... this is a step in the "you're using up our bandwidth and the players are losing the "fantasy" of being truly "immersed" (whatever that is) in our game!! (i guess being immersed is grinding gold/rep for hours on end). Not only that but i would rather see mindless spam in a game about power leveling and the "cheapest gold for this server" all the time instead of, and i quote from something i saw in a game not too long ago "You know how i know that you're gay? Cause you're AFK!"

yeah. right people.

People have bought gold and items prior to WoW and they will continue to buy gold/items after WoW.

This simply means that there cant be open advertisement in game.

Gee, and why do you think there are so many gold spammers? Because it's their main money draw as far as advertising. Making it illegal to spam the chat has effectively cut farmers money by at least 1/2 or more.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by Sunrider

 

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Originally posted by Torak

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Originally posted by Zorvan

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Originally posted by Owyn

 

A powerful step forward. This is excellent news. A shame it was a settlement, and they didn't push for more than that, but still potent as a warning to other borderline-illegal RMT businesses that the foundation of their business is built on slippery sand.

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True, they settled. But not only did the Blizzard get the injunction plus whatever the undisclosed settlement amounted to, but this is the first case to have the EULA and ToS of a game validated in a court of law. So now all the buyers and sellers who come here saying "EULA don't mean squat" have just been effectively wtfpwned.

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Making any use of the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system to advertise any website, business, or commercial endeavor, including any business associated with In Game Dollar, LLC or www.peons4hire.com.
Sending messages to the World of Warcraft® servers, the World of Warcraft® in-game communication or chat system or any other computer used by Blizzard in connection with the World of Warcraft® game, if such messages mention or advertise the website www.peons4hire.com, In Game Dollar LLC or any other commercial endeavor.
Making any unauthorized use, or obtaining any unauthorized access to Blizzard’s computer systems or network.
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Unfortunately,
This didn't do anything at all to discourage a gold seller from doing anything but using an ingame chat system...maybe. How long did this case take?
This does not hit on the key issue with is the legal status of virtual items.

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Thank you! Someone was thinking what i was. This isnt a big step forward... this is a step in the "you're using up our bandwidth and the players are losing the "fantasy" of being truly "immersed" (whatever that is) in our game!! (i guess being immersed is grinding gold/rep for hours on end). Not only that but i would rather see mindless spam in a game about power leveling and the "cheapest gold for this server" all the time instead of, and i quote from something i saw in a game not too long ago "You know how i know that you're gay? Cause you're AFK!"

yeah. right people.

People have bought gold and items prior to WoW and they will continue to buy gold/items after WoW.

This simply means that there cant be open advertisement in game.

Gee, and why do you think there are so many gold spammers? Because it's their main money draw as far as advertising. Making it illegal to spam the chat has effectively cut farmers money by at least 1/2 or more.

This settlement didn't make anything illegal for anyone other than Peons.

It doesn't stop any of the other 16,000 gold selling companies from going about business as usual.

It also doesn't say anything about whether Blizzard was likely to win on the merits.  We have no idea why Peons caved in.