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sonicsix  1/31/08 7:16:29 PM

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I checked online about the fiel GameMon.des and didn't find anything good about it but did find qutie a bit bad about it.  Anyone have experience with this file from playing Mabinogi or Maple Story?  Thanks.

 
nightphantom  1/31/08 7:50:08 PM

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Bleh, MMORPG''s are getting bland, we need to liven them up.

I remember a few times when it would simply stop, but I've never had any real problems with it. Sorry, can't help =\

Zorvan  1/31/08 8:05:01 PM

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nProtect is supposed to stop hackers and botters. It doesn't work, but asian devs keep adding it to games. It's just a worthless piece of software like gameGuard and all the others. But I've never had any specific problems/trouble with it myself as far having it installed.

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liddokun  1/31/08 8:11:24 PM

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Gameguard is horrible it takes up massive amount of pc resources. It doesn't really stop hardcore cheaters and botters since there are many ways to bypass gameguard. It probably discourages those who just started to learn to cheat but it definitely won't stop veteran botters. Mabinogi has a lot of in-game anti-botting traps and security measures and I don't really think gameguard is needed.

Your antivirus software reports game guard as a virus because it acts like a trojan software. it connects to the gameguard server and do a CRC check and downloads a copy of the software from the gameguard servers.

 
Feldron  2/08/08 11:52:33 AM

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yeah they are going about it the wrong way and should have more in game stops

like gms or customer service in game rather then like have one on like once a week for a few mins well that would cost money

So how about player mods its been done before and it works

yeah these other programs cause no end of problems

 
mike480  2/10/08 4:06:06 PM

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It is extremely hard to find a software that can actually stop the hackers/botters.  It can usually take a while to do things to fix these tiny things that only the botters notice in the system.

 
rhinok  7/07/08 11:16:24 PM

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It's actually "nProtect GameGuard" and it pretty much sucks.  GameGuard is essentially a rootkit that gets installed on your system.  In my case, I downloaded and installed Mabinogi the other day only to find that GameGuard caused my system to reboot due to conflicts with my firewall (which is anti-rootkit).  Btw, my firewall is Comodo Personal Firewall.  Here's the official word from Comodo:

 


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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 09:49:01 AM »
 

Hi Guys,

GameGuard tries to disable CFP's Defense+ and CFP tries to counterattack. During this fight, if you have another security software installed(For example AVAST!), unexpected BSODs happen. We will be fixing these BSODs with the next update(in a couple of days).

However to be able to play the games, you must permanently disable Defense+ otherwise it wont let any rootkit to disable its protection(i.e. it will activate its self defense).

To deactivate the D+ permanently

1 - Goto "Defense+->Advanced->Defense+ Settings"
2 - Select "Deactivate the D+ permanently" checkbox
3 - Press Apply and restart your PC

The games must work fine if you follow 3 steps.

However as a side note: The behavior of this game protection software is typical of a rootkit and can never be accepted as a legitimate behavior. There is no such thing as "white rootkit" in terms of CFP. CFP is an anti rootkit tool. Whether it is white, blasck, red, yellow. Unless the rootkit does not attack CFP, it wont attack the rootkit if it is allowed by the user. But this one is unfortunately attacking D+ core. 

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2008, 02:51:50 PM »
 

And other sollution? From your side? For example - to let user to create a rule to leave gameguard to function without interfere with CFP? To be more explicit - let user to decide what can he do with his security in this case, but not to disable entire D+ .

Let me be clear about what it is: It is ENTIRELY DISABLING CFP and any other security software in an illegitimate way. Never mind entirely disabling them, by unhooking, it is also endangering the OS stability. The operations it attempts are not such simple things. It is trying to disable kernel hooks set by CFP.

Your only option is to disable D+ permanently. Because there is no way to run D+ and such a rootkit in the same computer.

We can reconsider restarting requirement for disabling D+ permanently. But this does not solve anything.  Really D+ is only to protect against such things.  You should simply disable it permanently if you are OK with this fact. No other security software will be operational in anyway with those game protection hacks.

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At this point, I can't even try Mabinogi or any other game that uses GameGuard (Exteel, for example, which I like verymuch) without permanently disabling a feature of my very good firewall, something I won't do just to play a game.

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xomus  8/07/08 10:24:52 PM

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you stand here and take the bullets why I snipe them.

thats not the hardest problem. the hardest problem is finding software the finds and fixes the problem/alerts a programmer cause with all the national hackers the goverment trains you also go FBI and NID  that need acces to what they call civilian files so you got to have a back door but if a company were to remove or had fundings to develope these it might as well not have them at all cause their point less cause vetern hackers use the back door and enter a game through the anti-hacker program and what not.  but I'm gonna stop ranting now. peace!

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