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  User Deleted
1/29/08 1:29:54 PM#41
Originally posted by Raston


I'd rather be in a community that is half intelligent and half stupid than one that is full stupid.  But color me strange like that  


I am sure the WoW community never did a thing to you and here you go and insult them like that.  Geez.

  TeknoBug

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Posts: 2166

1/29/08 1:36:28 PM#42

There's a thread asking for a new engine in the SWG general forums, oh geez.


/rolleyes


  User Deleted
1/29/08 1:49:03 PM#43
Originally posted by sookster54

There's a thread asking for a new engine in the SWG general forums, oh geez.


/rolleyes


I still say, if the staff at SOE had the sense God gave a goose they'd make the forums private so the outside world couldn't view what was happening in the game or see any of the complaints in general discussion.  Oh well, I guess we should all be greatful that SOE recruits its employees from Poo Flinger's Short Bus School of Game Development & Marketing.

  ArcAngel3

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OP  1/29/08 1:56:50 PM#44
Originally posted by saay
Originally posted by jaxscorpio34

 

Originally posted by saay

Can i get a link to this? this doesnt sound like the community i play with, but theres always some i guess. The block thing is bound to cause a bit of a stir at first, because of the amount of players it affects, but people are starting to realise that it isnt such a huge thing, and that its a good thing becuase it was a bit overpowered beforehand -block suits are still very viable in PvP and PvE, its not as though they are useless now.


If people truly want to know the state of the game and its community, all they need to do is go read the official forums for a week or two.  I've read many, many negative posts there in the last few weeks.  Quite often, posts start off with a simple request to fix something about the game and devolve into "if you don't like it gtfo noob" or other colorful comments.  The reason you don't see this negativity is because you choose not to see it.  Rest assured, however, others can and do see it and it paints a very poor image of the game and the general attitude of  its current playerbase.

 

By the way, you might want to remind all those guys on the official forums that their forums are currently  public and everything they say there, negative or otherwise, has the potential to attract or drive away more customers than anything we say on a forum such as this.  When people want to know what's happening in WoW they go to worldofwarcraft.com.  When they want to know what's happening in Star Wars Galaxies, they go to starwarsgalaxies.com.  Only a handful would come to a site like mmorpg instead of the main site when researching a game they're interested in playing.

Err no, i actually dont see this sort of thing, im either on gameplay discussion, my server forums or in hints and tips so id really appreciate a link to this post with this supposed plethora of ingorant insults.

I posted the link for you if you scroll up a bit.   What really stands out to me about the thread is that the OP isn't even negatively affected by the lost modifiers.  He's not crying or whining at all.  He noticed something was going to have a negative impact on the game community, he critiques the implementation plan, and asks if there is some way to lessen the pain of the transition.  For attempting to be constructive, he gets mutilitated.  Like I said, been there, done that, didn't like it, it's still happening, same old @ SWG, unfortunately.

  ArcAngel3

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OP  1/29/08 2:18:53 PM#45

 

Originally posted by hipiap

Ah yes...the receint questions and concerns about the pending "Fix" to the Block Modifier.

 

The problem with the forums at SW:G is the majority of the people that flame anyone that brings up a concern or a complaint about whatever it might be are people that are "Elders" from before the NGE.

 

 

I play and played Pre-CU. I have 2 active accounts currently.

 

I will post a bitch about changes.  I will ask questions about game design and things that do or don't make sense.

 

The whiners can F off for all I care, here or there.  People are allowed their opinions regardless of if it is aggreeed with or not.

 

I agree with the OP that the (for the most part if your not in the GAT) forum community over there these days is just like the forum community here.  Half intelligent and half stupid.

 

So now you're blaming elder veterans for the hostile and derogatory posts?   I guess if they get blamed for the CU, the NGE and the current state of the game, we might as well blame them for all the "stop whining or get the heck out posts" on the SOE boards too.  Oh wait, I thought the stop whining posts were written TO the elder vets, not BY them.  And I thought you wrote one of those and posted over here just the other day...  Something about how us vets should stop whining and moaning, and about how we have no life away from the computer, and are too bitter or chicken to try out SWG....again.  I think you need to look at this situation through less distorted lenses. 

In fact to confirm my hunch, I checked and found that the guy who made the original post asking for some options to help people that were about to lose a lot of investment on mods was a pre-NGE "elder" player. 

So you just blamed this problem on the victim, fyi.   

  Raston

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Posts: 440

1/29/08 3:24:08 PM#46

Originally posted by jaxscorpio34
Originally posted by Raston


I'd rather be in a community that is half intelligent and half stupid than one that is full stupid.  But color me strange like that  


I am sure the WoW community never did a thing to you and here you go and insult them like that.  Geez.


heh, not the community I was thinking of, but hey it works too :)

Anyways, you'd be wrong...  In my attempt of WoW, the community scarred me with such things as Leroy Jenkins, Confuses Says jokes, Chuck Norris and other vastly bland and completely unfunny humor...  and this was on the RP server, I'd hate to see the normal ones.

  Tiller

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1/29/08 4:54:27 PM#47
Originally posted by ArcAngel3

So I popped over to the SOE boards to see what all the hubbub is lately around some recent nerf.  I guess the devs gave players a block ability; they now think it's overpowered,and they're toning it down some.  What makes this a bit more tense it seems is that players put really expensive mods into the block ability, and now feel that they have been wasted.

So I read a post where some guy is wanting the option of using his mods on something else in light of the change.  Sounds like a reasonable request to me.  The answers from other players are what prompted me to write this post.  The guy that was asking for a way to move his mods was:

-called a noob,

-called a whiner,

-told to stop crying,

-blamed for the nerf,

-told that people like him are to be blamed for the CU,

-told that people like him are to be blamed for the NGE,

-told that people were stupid for spending 100 million on mods in the first place,

-told that he was just crying because he lost his "I win" button.

What is that, some kind of script you have to memorize if you want to support the way SOE manages the game?  "Anytime people raise a concern about a game change, make sure you call them  noobs, call them whiners, tell them to stop crying, blame them for the NGE etc. etc."  These were the responses when people raised concerns about the CU.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about the NGE.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about deletion of faction status.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about (insert pretty much anything you want here--collision detection, group xp nerf etc..

Man, that is one unfriendly community atmosphere if you ask me.  It's just one more thing working against any chance of the game growing, and it's one more thing SOE needs to work to clean up: a history of divisive game changes, and of letting people who raise concerns get mutilitated by their peers.

It's a big reason the game is so empty now. Who would want to play a game were the community is so hostile? Like I would ever want to go back to listen to that. Ya hear that Obraik?
 
SOE has helped to create the worst community divide ever. It used to be one of the best. No way any of us would go back to that even if we wanted to play. People I thought were friends turned out to be a-hats, and all because I refused to go along with their (SOE's) constant changes.
 

Lots of people started out voicing their opinions in a decent way, but then you get that what the OP gives as an example and your whole attitude towards the game, SOE, and the players changes instantly.    It was like these hostile players came out of no-where and started ambushing vets to force them out, like they didn't want us playing. you know? the ones who would say

 "Just STFU and leave"

"Slit wrists"

"CRY MORE" 

"If you hate the game then why play? leave already"

I guess we will all just leave then since no one wants to hear our ideas on what we want out of the game. They got what they wanted, the game they wanted, the low community population ect. Now they are all pissy about how emtpy servers are? It all makes no sense. Have fun playing your empty game.


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  ArcAngel3

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OP  1/29/08 10:33:12 PM#48
Originally posted by tillamook
Originally posted by ArcAngel3

So I popped over to the SOE boards to see what all the hubbub is lately around some recent nerf.  I guess the devs gave players a block ability; they now think it's overpowered,and they're toning it down some.  What makes this a bit more tense it seems is that players put really expensive mods into the block ability, and now feel that they have been wasted.

So I read a post where some guy is wanting the option of using his mods on something else in light of the change.  Sounds like a reasonable request to me.  The answers from other players are what prompted me to write this post.  The guy that was asking for a way to move his mods was:

-called a noob,

-called a whiner,

-told to stop crying,

-blamed for the nerf,

-told that people like him are to be blamed for the CU,

-told that people like him are to be blamed for the NGE,

-told that people were stupid for spending 100 million on mods in the first place,

-told that he was just crying because he lost his "I win" button.

What is that, some kind of script you have to memorize if you want to support the way SOE manages the game?  "Anytime people raise a concern about a game change, make sure you call them  noobs, call them whiners, tell them to stop crying, blame them for the NGE etc. etc."  These were the responses when people raised concerns about the CU.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about the NGE.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about deletion of faction status.  These were the responses when people raised concerns about (insert pretty much anything you want here--collision detection, group xp nerf etc..

Man, that is one unfriendly community atmosphere if you ask me.  It's just one more thing working against any chance of the game growing, and it's one more thing SOE needs to work to clean up: a history of divisive game changes, and of letting people who raise concerns get mutilitated by their peers.

It's a big reason the game is so empty now. Who would want to play a game were the community is so hostile? Like I would ever want to go back to listen to that. Ya hear that Obraik?
 
SOE has helped to create the worst community divide ever. It used to be one of the best. No way any of us would go back to that even if we wanted to play. People I thought were friends turned out to be a-hats, and all because I refused to go along with their (SOE's) constant changes.
 

Lots of people started out voicing their opinions in a decent way, but then you get that what the OP gives as an example and your whole attitude towards the game, SOE, and the players changes instantly.    It was like these hostile players came out of no-where and started ambushing vets to force them out, like they didn't want us playing. you know? the ones who would say

 "Just STFU and leave"

"Slit wrists"

"CRY MORE" 

"If you hate the game then why play? leave already"

I guess we will all just leave then since no one wants to hear our ideas on what we want out of the game. They got what they wanted, the game they wanted, the low community population ect. Now they are all pissy about how emtpy servers are? It all makes no sense. Have fun playing your empty game.


Yup, that about sums it up doesn't it, and it hasn't changed.  Don't forget that many of us started with the feedback in response to Smed's "open letter to the community" asking for just that kind of input.  He asked what would make the game playable after the NGE wrecked it, and we told him.  I barely even read the SOE boards before that.  I was busy enjoying myself.  When we provided the feedback we were asked for we got flamed to high hell, modded and ignored.  And yes, I'm sure that just increased the exodus from the game.  And as for returning, who in their right mind wants to go back to that? 

If SOE really wants to know why people avoid SWG like the plague, there's plenty of helpful information available, if they're willing to actually see it.

  saay

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1/30/08 3:05:33 AM#49
Originally posted by Mathos
Originally posted by saay
Originally posted by jaxscorpio34

 

Originally posted by saay

Can i get a link to this? this doesnt sound like the community i play with, but theres always some i guess. The block thing is bound to cause a bit of a stir at first, because of the amount of players it affects, but people are starting to realise that it isnt such a huge thing, and that its a good thing becuase it was a bit overpowered beforehand -block suits are still very viable in PvP and PvE, its not as though they are useless now.


If people truly want to know the state of the game and its community, all they need to do is go read the official forums for a week or two.  I've read many, many negative posts there in the last few weeks.  Quite often, posts start off with a simple request to fix something about the game and devolve into "if you don't like it gtfo noob" or other colorful comments.  The reason you don't see this negativity is because you choose not to see it.  Rest assured, however, others can and do see it and it paints a very poor image of the game and the general attitude of  its current playerbase.

 

By the way, you might want to remind all those guys on the official forums that their forums are currently  public and everything they say there, negative or otherwise, has the potential to attract or drive away more customers than anything we say on a forum such as this.  When people want to know what's happening in WoW they go to worldofwarcraft.com.  When they want to know what's happening in Star Wars Galaxies, they go to starwarsgalaxies.com.  Only a handful would come to a site like mmorpg instead of the main site when researching a game they're interested in playing.

Err no, i actually dont see this sort of thing, im either on gameplay discussion, my server forums or in hints and tips so id really appreciate a link to this post with this supposed plethora of ingorant insults.

Denial saay its not just a river in Egypt, lol to any reading this forum you do more damage to your cause then good, keep it up bud your worth ten nerfs in game....

How am i denying it? im asking for proof. (someone said they posted the link but i cant find it) And id appreciate if you would refrain from posting useless posts like this, and how exactly am i damaging my cause by stating that i dont usually see this sort of thing often hence why  i would like to have a look, think before you post is the lesson here.

  Razot

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1/30/08 3:23:25 AM#50

 

 

Originally posted by saay
Originally posted by Mathos
Originally posted by saay
Originally posted by jaxscorpio34

 

Originally posted by saay

Can i get a link to this? this doesnt sound like the community i play with, but theres always some i guess. The block thing is bound to cause a bit of a stir at first, because of the amount of players it affects, but people are starting to realise that it isnt such a huge thing, and that its a good thing becuase it was a bit overpowered beforehand -block suits are still very viable in PvP and PvE, its not as though they are useless now.


If people truly want to know the state of the game and its community, all they need to do is go read the official forums for a week or two.  I've read many, many negative posts there in the last few weeks.  Quite often, posts start off with a simple request to fix something about the game and devolve into "if you don't like it gtfo noob" or other colorful comments.  The reason you don't see this negativity is because you choose not to see it.  Rest assured, however, others can and do see it and it paints a very poor image of the game and the general attitude of  its current playerbase.

 

By the way, you might want to remind all those guys on the official forums that their forums are currently  public and everything they say there, negative or otherwise, has the potential to attract or drive away more customers than anything we say on a forum such as this.  When people want to know what's happening in WoW they go to worldofwarcraft.com.  When they want to know what's happening in Star Wars Galaxies, they go to starwarsgalaxies.com.  Only a handful would come to a site like mmorpg instead of the main site when researching a game they're interested in playing.

Err no, i actually dont see this sort of thing, im either on gameplay discussion, my server forums or in hints and tips so id really appreciate a link to this post with this supposed plethora of ingorant insults.

Denial saay its not just a river in Egypt, lol to any reading this forum you do more damage to your cause then good, keep it up bud your worth ten nerfs in game....

How am i denying it? im asking for proof. (someone said they posted the link but i cant find it) And id appreciate if you would refrain from posting useless posts like this, and how exactly am i damaging my cause by stating that i dont usually see this sort of thing often hence why  i would like to have a look, think before you post is the lesson here.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=585317

 

you guys are like a cult!

game should change name to Jonestown Galaxies..

 

 

  alakram

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Posts: 2235

1/30/08 3:35:17 AM#51

if I tell you what I think about this type of peeps I'll earn a justified warning, so I better dont say anything.

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  Tiller

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1/30/08 6:16:12 PM#52

Great community!1 Good game SOE! That's what you get for leaving the lid off your sandbox, all kinds of cats s****** in it.  No one in their right mind wants to play amongst s***.


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