Originally posted by eric_w66

 

Originally posted by Shannia

The problem is, hard core gamers will eat this up in a month.  Really hard core players and guild mates will keep players on 24/7 to get to max level and control the border kingdoms in very, very short order (a week is my guess).  Personally, I wish other governments would follow China's lead and limiting account activity to no more than 10 hours a day.  I know it  doesn't stop people who have multiple accounts but at least it forces people to take a break and slows the game down.

 

Those people will always be there, nothing you can do about them, and game developers certainly don't plan their game around them as there is no hope in providing enough content to keep those people happy for very long. Sure, they might whine when they run out of content, but they ALWAYS whine when they run out of content. The people you don't want running out of content are the vast majority of your subscribers, where the real money comes from.

 

People who race to max level tend to leave the game anyways when the NEXT MMO comes out so they can repeat the process there and be "first" again. So, WAR and the new WoW expansion will probably siphon off the super hard core types anyways (except the few who are actual conan fans).

 

They problem with it is, the three to six months these elitists stick around, they completely set the tone and destroy the economy.  They also are the ones they set up their gold selling toons.  Once people are paying X coin for stuff... they want X coin as well when it is their turn to start selling.  So all gamers can compete equally, I feel that all resources for crafting should be sold by a vendor with unlimited supply so that way if anything, people have to undercut each other to be able to sell.  That way you don't have to grind a life time to say save 5,200 gold for an epic flying mount.  Also, players would have more time to play the game instead of farming.

How many gameplay hours do you think there are in counterstrike?

The game is good enough for people that like the genre to play for years without any "content updates". Add in custom maps and you end up with people playing counterstrike well into adulthood.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, I average 25 hours a week, so that means the game will supply me with 32 weeks (7-8 mo) of entertainment (I'm assuming this is just for one character?)

Not a bad investment. I just hope its entertaining to me for that long, last few games I tried (VG, LotRO) didn't last anywhere near as long.

 

Yups agreed.

In my opinion, a good mmo doesn't feel like you reach the end game. You need to alot variety in the game mechanic. If you need to add content every 6 month or year, you did something wrong.

You don't want this to be a...

It'll just make you...

You need something that'll make you...

To a point where everyone thinks you're a....

And to think the whole point of MMO's was to make friends, socialize, and help each other out online... Shouldn't that be enough content?

Thinking up good content is one thing, trying to implement it into a game is an entirely different matter.

Originally posted by Housam

Originally posted by Dremac

If 3+ months of 8 hours a day content isn't enough for you then you aren't looking for a game you're looking for a replacement life.

i only play 40 hours a week on average....but hardcore players will finish this game in a month or two....and i heard this game would be casual friendly/hardcore

Only 40? Wow I thought my 20 hours was excessive lol.

i  only playa bout 20-25 hours week, so would probolly take 3 weeks or more to get to lvl 80

Originally posted by AbIeL

i  only playa bout 20-25 hours week, so would probolly take 3 weeks or more to get to lvl 80

I'm hoping you meant 3 months, otherwise I'd say lay off the MMORPG games and get to work on some math practice.

Honestly, only morons would target the super-hardcore audience as their primary candidates. The average MMO player doesn't put in 8 hours a day, and designing your game for a niche audience of what I'd say is 2% of the entire MMO population is foolish.

If they want to run through the game in a few weeks, that's their choice, but penalizing everyone else for having lives and things to do is just downright retarded.

Expansions will come, they will add content.

If at all in doubt about 800 hours of gameplay:  explore, join a guild, fight some people in a bar drunk or even join a group or two... hell even a raid.  DONT GRIND lol

I believe the 360 version is going to be release with the expansion already in it, so people won't have to buy the whole game again, just to get access to the expansion.

Can't remember where i read that... sorry!

Still if they make any other expansions after that, I wonder how that will work, how will 360 players gain access.  My guess is downloading with Xbox Live.  Or will they do what Oblivion did, and release yet another version with expansion included?