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  Asmiroth20

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1/25/08 10:59:29 AM#41
Originally posted by MikeMB

 

Originally posted by Asmiroth20

  Ok, I've been watching three forums since the NGE.  They are the emulator's, SWG's official and this one. 

  I had to say something on this one.  Big whoop!  There's one thing that they MIGHT have gotten right since November '05.

  Now this is what they need to do in addition to this to get me back:

1.  Revamp the profession system (32+ with  hybridization possible).

2.  Revamp the combat system (slow down and targeting fixed back to normal).

3.  Make our movements look realistic again (both on foot and on mount).

4.  Decay (but not as drastic as it was).

5.  GCW revamp (ask people what they want).

  Why don't I just come out and say it?  I want either Pre NGE system whether it be CU or Pre CU, it really doesn't matter.  The NGE was and still is a blight to this game.  I can't really pinpoint one reason why I don't like SWG now, except to say that I hate everything that the NGE stood for.

  Animations are nice, but they used to be even more nice when the game was a world and not just a game.

 

1. There is word that they are bring back 'some' tree's. Putting in a combat box for what weapons people like to use. Droid Commander (tho it's unknown if this will be like Beast Master or not.) They have stated things like Knockdown/Dizzy are not coming back however.

 

2.Believe it or not the combat system works a bit better now. Yes it's faster, but remember this is a Sci-Fi Game, Sci-Fi RPG's tend to have faster combat. Mostly due to more ranged combat, really play something like Mass Effect then Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect is much faster then Elder Scrolls. And I wouldn't put it past an UI revamp.

3.That's part of the goal now, believe me they will most likely do Light Saber and Melee Weapons first before moving on to other things like Ranged Weapons and movement. As for mounts, it's gotten better not the best but still.

4.This has come up alot... The main fault is people don't want it to be like the old system where over time even with repairing the item it will go down to 0. I wouldn't 'mind' if it came back, only somewhat slower and with a repair NPC that can repair the items crafted or looted for X amount of credits. This way there is a semi-credit sink in game.

5.People have also been asking for this as well, and trust me SOE will most likely give in. The fault with the system right now is, some people don't like GCW Decay. Other's don't like the fact that the items are almost PvPer only. I wouldn't put it past SOE opening it more up in the next year. Allowing PvE Players to get what they want out of it. And do it so the PvPer's have a fun system that they would enjoy.

See the NGE has gotten better, much better. Yeah it sucked when it first came out and their are other things SOE needs to do. Yeah the Player Pop is down, but almost every game has that happening... Well unless you have 'Warcraft' somewhere in your title. SWG is a 4 year old game with a bad rep, believe me Ultima Online lost a ton of people and has dead servers. Lord of the Rings at times had that ghost town feeling...

The thing too is, in the end that's what SWG is... It is 'just a game' if you want a 'world' then hit up EVE or Second Life. Dare I say Second Life is much more of a Sandbox game then well any MMO that's been out.


1.  A couple of "trees" aren't really going to get me back.  250 skillpoints with 32+ proffessions or bust for me.

2.  The combat is too glitchy.  Combat in the NGE, to me, looks like a nonstop spasmfest.  Faster doesn' t necessarily mean better, that's more FPS's territory than MMORPG. 

     Yes, I've played Mass Effect and there is no doubt that it was definetly going to be one of my favorite games until part two comes out.  Though, I don't remember getting shot through walls,  I never really felt hurried in combat and it all looked nice to boot (the combat and graphics).  It worked for that engine, but not for SWG's.

3.  The thing is that they mess the animations and movements up when they sped the game up.  Just one of their many blunders to the game.  They shouldn't have to go back and redo all that stuff because they had it already, their code monkeys just aren't going to do the right thing to fix it by slowing the speed down.

4.  Well, like I said.  Decay to a lesser extent.  I know it was pretty insane back then, that's why it would need to be worked on and find a good, common ground on what's plausible.

5.  I had fun PvP'ing with the GCW back in the older systems.  Back when Colonel didn't have a big advantage over Corpral even.  Though back then, the combat and targeting was more traditional and, to me, worked alot more than this psuedo-FPS bullcrap.

  Yes, the NGE has gotten better, even for what that's worth.  It's still not doing it for me, so I'm staying away and warning possible future players to "try before you buy", but I can't help but feel a little vidicated that the population has bled so much. 

  In closing, I'm going to say that I want a Star Wars MMO with the level of immersion that the old SWG systems had or if possible more.

 

  Devildog1

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Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 496

RIP
SWG: Zanthar Brothen (Bloodfin)

1/25/08 11:05:59 AM#42
Originally posted by Burntvet

 

Originally posted by musicmann

The NGE is a failure, total crapfest. It's kinda funny that people that still play thinks that just because the devs of the game had to hire a PI to find the guys that learned how to mod aniamtions back into the game that will work in the NGE system, think that vet players will want to hurry up and resub or something.

Let me expalin it in the most simple terms for all the NGE fanbois. IF SOE CREATED CLASSIC SERVERS AND OR REROLLED BACK, WITH MAYBE A YR FREE IN SUB FEE, MAYBE AND A BIG MAYBE VETS WOULD ETURN, GOT IT.

 

Now they only have to recode 32 professions, item decay, a real combat system, a real GCW.... (insert endless list here)

 Lol they'll never get why we vets left in he first place!!!

  TeknoBug

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Joined: 10/13/07
Posts: 2166

1/25/08 12:30:41 PM#43

Decay was really the best part that kept the economy alive, especially crystal/pearls, they decayed like a madman and back then Krayts weren't exactly easy to solo unless you had a swordsman/doctor alt.


GCW ranks didn't matter back then, the Jedi had an FRS rank tree which only gave you a bigger force pool and slightly cheaper heal costs (the listed saber block and a few others weren't functional). I wish Jedi had their own dark vs light battle that was seperate from the GCW in exception of bounties, that would have made the game a little better in terms of pvp.


The NGE took away the flexibility of mixing professions (hybrid crafter and TKA for eg), took away player based economy from crafted items and decay which almost always brought back trusted customers for more, smugglers actually had a purpose with the slicing system, entertainers were left in the dark for ages after losing the ability to heal wounds, buff mind and other aspects, when politician actually took time to grind rather than a stupid bug that made everyone master politician upon placing a house.


The missing animations certainly is ugly and not even high up on my desired to fix list, though it IS one of the things that drove many people away. I remmeber when the combat upgrade first came out, Jedi and fencer were missing some animations which were addressed 2 months later and by mid Octobor the combat upgrade after publish 24 was actually a better game overall than pre-CU ever was and pvp was very fun regardless of class then less than 2 weeks later the NGE was pushed live. If SOE still doesn't understand to this day why we're very upset, then God help us.


  iwantmyswg

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Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 323

1/26/08 12:41:03 AM#44
Originally posted by Asmiroth20
Originally posted by MikeMB

 

Originally posted by Asmiroth20

  Ok, I've been watching three forums since the NGE.  They are the emulator's, SWG's official and this one. 

  I had to say something on this one.  Big whoop!  There's one thing that they MIGHT have gotten right since November '05.

  Now this is what they need to do in addition to this to get me back:

1.  Revamp the profession system (32+ with  hybridization possible).

2.  Revamp the combat system (slow down and targeting fixed back to normal).

3.  Make our movements look realistic again (both on foot and on mount).

4.  Decay (but not as drastic as it was).

5.  GCW revamp (ask people what they want).

  Why don't I just come out and say it?  I want either Pre NGE system whether it be CU or Pre CU, it really doesn't matter.  The NGE was and still is a blight to this game.  I can't really pinpoint one reason why I don't like SWG now, except to say that I hate everything that the NGE stood for.

  Animations are nice, but they used to be even more nice when the game was a world and not just a game.

 

1. There is word that they are bring back 'some' tree's. Putting in a combat box for what weapons people like to use. Droid Commander (tho it's unknown if this will be like Beast Master or not.) They have stated things like Knockdown/Dizzy are not coming back however.

 

2.Believe it or not the combat system works a bit better now. Yes it's faster, but remember this is a Sci-Fi Game, Sci-Fi RPG's tend to have faster combat. Mostly due to more ranged combat, really play something like Mass Effect then Elder Scrolls. Mass Effect is much faster then Elder Scrolls. And I wouldn't put it past an UI revamp.

3.That's part of the goal now, believe me they will most likely do Light Saber and Melee Weapons first before moving on to other things like Ranged Weapons and movement. As for mounts, it's gotten better not the best but still.

4.This has come up alot... The main fault is people don't want it to be like the old system where over time even with repairing the item it will go down to 0. I wouldn't 'mind' if it came back, only somewhat slower and with a repair NPC that can repair the items crafted or looted for X amount of credits. This way there is a semi-credit sink in game.

5.People have also been asking for this as well, and trust me SOE will most likely give in. The fault with the system right now is, some people don't like GCW Decay. Other's don't like the fact that the items are almost PvPer only. I wouldn't put it past SOE opening it more up in the next year. Allowing PvE Players to get what they want out of it. And do it so the PvPer's have a fun system that they would enjoy.

See the NGE has gotten better, much better. Yeah it sucked when it first came out and their are other things SOE needs to do. Yeah the Player Pop is down, but almost every game has that happening... Well unless you have 'Warcraft' somewhere in your title. SWG is a 4 year old game with a bad rep, believe me Ultima Online lost a ton of people and has dead servers. Lord of the Rings at times had that ghost town feeling...

The thing too is, in the end that's what SWG is... It is 'just a game' if you want a 'world' then hit up EVE or Second Life. Dare I say Second Life is much more of a Sandbox game then well any MMO that's been out.


1.  A couple of "trees" aren't really going to get me back.  250 skillpoints with 32+ proffessions or bust for me.

2.  The combat is too glitchy.  Combat in the NGE, to me, looks like a nonstop spasmfest.  Faster doesn' t necessarily mean better, that's more FPS's territory than MMORPG. 

     Yes, I've played Mass Effect and there is no doubt that it was definetly going to be one of my favorite games until part two comes out.  Though, I don't remember getting shot through walls,  I never really felt hurried in combat and it all looked nice to boot (the combat and graphics).  It worked for that engine, but not for SWG's.

3.  The thing is that they mess the animations and movements up when they sped the game up.  Just one of their many blunders to the game.  They shouldn't have to go back and redo all that stuff because they had it already, their code monkeys just aren't going to do the right thing to fix it by slowing the speed down.

4.  Well, like I said.  Decay to a lesser extent.  I know it was pretty insane back then, that's why it would need to be worked on and find a good, common ground on what's plausible.

5.  I had fun PvP'ing with the GCW back in the older systems.  Back when Colonel didn't have a big advantage over Corpral even.  Though back then, the combat and targeting was more traditional and, to me, worked alot more than this psuedo-FPS bullcrap.

  Yes, the NGE has gotten better, even for what that's worth.  It's still not doing it for me, so I'm staying away and warning possible future players to "try before you buy", but I can't help but feel a little vidicated that the population has bled so much. 

  In closing, I'm going to say that I want a Star Wars MMO with the level of immersion that the old SWG systems had or if possible more.

 

ignore mikemb he is a clueless fanbot or works for $OE and knows nothing about mmo games.

  User Deleted
1/26/08 6:09:09 PM#45

meh i played range so i do not see 1 less reason to hate the NGE

  Darth_Pete

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1/26/08 6:50:31 PM#46

Nice news... so its like 1 down 5 to go after that fix.

  Evilsam

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Posts: 200

1/26/08 9:12:55 PM#47

"I didn't tell anyone to go to WoW, I just said I could see quitting over losing a skill system, since I think skill systems are far superior to class systems."

 Umm.ok..how about the 4,000+ hours i nvested in 3 char's  professions that were "removed"

 you mean to tell me that if you played a game for almost 3 years and they removed all your char's skills and talents that you would still play....If so..I couldn't help but feel sorry for you.

  User Deleted
1/26/08 9:54:12 PM#48
Originally posted by Mupp3n
THey say they got 10 mil now.. 
And how many of those 10 mil got 2 accounts possibly 3.. How many actually play, have they counted via subscribed accoutns, or active IPs?

I dont really think they got 10 mil.. The servers arent that active, and i were playing on EU Stormscale, one of the best servers imo. And it were there from the start. Anyhow, when claiming ot have 10 mil, the areas should be dense with players, not 10 each area per lowlvl area and 100 on the high lvl areas ( Outlands.. )

 

Oh and btw, the one who quoted my post last, i didnt point it directly to you.

The same claim can be made for SWG.  I know many, many people who had multiple accounts in SWG back in the day.  At one point I was up to 6 accounts myself.  SOE counted everyone of them as a single subscriber since they were all paid for individually.  How many people have multiple accounts in SWG today?  Quite a few I'd imagine.  Particularly since you can only have two characters, and in some cases three (if you unlocked your Jedi slot back in the day), per server.  In WoW I have the ability to create 8 or so characters per server, not sure since I've never capped out and am not really an alt a holic.  CoV/CoH (CoX) allows more characters per server than WoW and SWG combined.  By allowing more than two or three characters per server, I've never felt a need to buy an extra account in WoW or CoX.  I sure as heck felt a need to do so in SWG though.

  Czzarre

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MMORPG Character Monuments

...When its time for your character to take a well deserved rest...

1/26/08 9:54:46 PM#49

I hate to say it, but better late than never.

Besides, that is such a minor bug...It shoud have been very low on the priority list and thus takes time to get to

Torrential

  Wickersham

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1/26/08 11:24:26 PM#50

 

Originally posted by Mathos
Originally posted by Suvroc

It's not that the animations were missing from the NGE that has kept me away.

It's the NGE itself.


 Dito why play a poor wow clone when you can play wow and thats what im doing, i dont like wow or swg, but wows very well done,oh and 8 mill subs to boot groups are not a problem there lol...

 

  (Except the number is now 10 mill subs.)

Oh and I'd like to point out that once again the official SWG motto holds true:

"Pay money on the idea that maybe the game will get better at some point in the future."

"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"

  Xtremality1

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHDRPzGAGjs

1/27/08 2:40:37 AM#51

What new content? All this crap they keep adding has been in the game before. Ignorance, Ignorance!

  Shivah

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1/27/08 11:47:51 PM#52

Speaking for myself it's not that the animations were broken, it's that they were broken for 2 years. It's not that the patches are buggy but that they get playtester feedback on buggyness and still launch them. It's not that I, in effect, paid to beta test a game, the first few months of any new MMO are basically pay to test, it's that now 5 years after launch people are still paying to beta test. In summation it is not SWG that is the heart of my issue but in the execution of said game and the entity responsible for said behavior. Everything else is just a symptom.

  darkboaz

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Forum Terrorist

1/28/08 12:58:11 AM#53
Originally posted by Shivah

Speaking for myself it's not that the animations were broken, it's that they were broken for 2 years. It's not that the patches are buggy but that they get playtester feedback on buggyness and still launch them. It's not that I, in effect, paid to beta test a game, the first few months of any new MMO are basically pay to test, it's that now 5 years after launch people are still paying to beta test. In summation it is not SWG that is the heart of my issue but in the execution of said game and the entity responsible for said behavior. Everything else is just a symptom.

That is so true it is not even funny.

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