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  Jimmy_Scythe

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1/23/08 8:21:59 PM#1

 

Just watch this weeks Zero Punctuation about The Witcher and and you'll understand why most PC gaming catasses are hated and treated like the elitist pricks that they are.

Cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2if5GYXOGyo

  ladyattis

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1/23/08 8:29:23 PM#2

I love his word choice, it keeps cracking me up. :3

All in all, I agree to a point that hard != fun, but easy != fun either. It's a matter of elegance to combine challenge to achieve goals with clear, intuitive interfaces in the attempt to achieve them. Imagine if you had a bicycle, where you had to run more than two mechanisms at once, making it hard to not only power, but to maneuver. That's what you get in games like The Witcher and in MMOs as well. Obfuscation does not equal challenge, it equals frustration.

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  Sharajat

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1/23/08 8:32:35 PM#3

Okay, I agree with some of the logic issues.  But man, this game was waaay simpler than the ones I like.  I thought it was dumbed down. 

 

God I hate console players. 

 

 Though god, painkiller is the best game ever. 

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  Jackcolt

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1/23/08 8:39:30 PM#4

The Witcher isn't that hard. It's a bit complex, but it's no way near as difficult to figure out compared to games such as Battlecruiser 3000AD, Europa Universalis or Operation Flashpoint.

I don't his idea of quests either? I've played the game for about 15 hours, and I've only encountered 1(optional) quest where I had to collect skulls(Barghest skulls to be precise)

 

Console games are usually "dumbed down". At least if you ask Ubisoft. The console version of GRAW is an arcade like super action experience, where the PC game is a realistic futuristic tactical shooter. Frankly I might be an elistist asshole, but I prefer the latter.

 

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  Seiren

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1/23/08 8:42:41 PM#5

Thanks for sharing. I can't stop laughing.

  DeaconX

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1/23/08 8:44:33 PM#6

Always awesome :) Thanks!


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  gestalt11

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1/23/08 8:50:57 PM#7

Pc gaming master race.  Awesome.

  xaldraxius

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1/23/08 8:52:55 PM#8

OMG that was funny as HELL! I saw that game at WallMart the other day and debated on buying it...glad I didn't.

  gestalt11

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1/23/08 9:04:41 PM#9

Originally posted by xaldraxius

OMG that was funny as HELL! I saw that game at WallMart the other day and debated on buying it...glad I didn't.

Taking Zero puncutuation seriously is a mistake.   Its witty but not always fair.

 

For example the alchemy is very simple and you can make anything whether you have found the recipes or not.  There is a guide on gamefaqs that lists all the recipes.  You just get alcohol and 2-4 for ingredient types.  There are only 4 types of ingredients.  The only hard part is getting enough money/alcohol and managing your resources.

 

 

  Kenze

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1/23/08 9:23:04 PM#10

That was funny as hell lol.. I liked the Witcher though. Oh well, to each their own

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  DeaconX

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1/23/08 9:25:45 PM#11
Originally posted by gestalt11

 

Originally posted by xaldraxius

OMG that was funny as HELL! I saw that game at WallMart the other day and debated on buying it...glad I didn't.

Taking Zero puncutuation seriously is a mistake.   Its witty but not always fair.

 

 

For example the alchemy is very simple and you can make anything whether you have found the recipes or not.  There is a guide on gamefaqs that lists all the recipes.  You just get alcohol and 2-4 for ingredient types.  There are only 4 types of ingredients.  The only hard part is getting enough money/alcohol and managing your resources.

 

 

ABSOLUTELY true.  I watch because it's entertaining and funny, not because I'm looking for credible journalism about a game I'm interested in.


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BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward. Sorry TSW.

  DeserttFoxx

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1/23/08 9:34:10 PM#12

Zero Punctuation is one guys opinion about the games he plays, you dont have to agreee with them. The only problem with review sites are, people take them to religiously.

 

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  Hawkbit

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1/23/08 10:16:27 PM#13

A lot of what he said is true about the game, but I'm actually having fun with it regardless.  Ever since I've been into MORGs, I have a hard time getting into single player games... they just don't feel dynamic enough.  But with the Witcher I'm actually having fun.  It might be the first game in years outside of MORGs I've had a decent time with.  Then again, like he said... it's a lot like a MMORPGER.  :)

  Novaseeker

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1/23/08 10:27:15 PM#14

It was funny, I agree. 

 

I iked The Witcher, but when I was playing it, it definitely did feel like a single player MMORPG, as well -- although I like MMORPGs so that wasn't an issue for me.  I didn't find the interface and controls that complex to be honest.

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  Munki

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1/23/08 11:40:43 PM#15
Originally posted by gestalt11

 

Originally posted by xaldraxius

OMG that was funny as HELL! I saw that game at WallMart the other day and debated on buying it...glad I didn't.

Taking Zero puncutuation seriously is a mistake.   Its witty but not always fair.

 

 

For example the alchemy is very simple and you can make anything whether you have found the recipes or not.  There is a guide on gamefaqs that lists all the recipes.  You just get alcohol and 2-4 for ingredient types.  There are only 4 types of ingredients.  The only hard part is getting enough money/alcohol and managing your resources.

 

if you regularly watch his reviews... he rips apart every game.


after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...

  b0rderline99

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virtual world > themepark

1/24/08 12:13:03 AM#16

Originally posted by Munki
Originally posted by gestalt11

 

Originally posted by xaldraxius

OMG that was funny as HELL! I saw that game at WallMart the other day and debated on buying it...glad I didn't.

Taking Zero puncutuation seriously is a mistake.   Its witty but not always fair.

 

 

For example the alchemy is very simple and you can make anything whether you have found the recipes or not.  There is a guide on gamefaqs that lists all the recipes.  You just get alcohol and 2-4 for ingredient types.  There are only 4 types of ingredients.  The only hard part is getting enough money/alcohol and managing your resources.

 

if you regularly watch his reviews... he rips apart every game.

except TF2, which he then had to make a big deal about how he couldn't find anything wrong with it

gotta love zero punctuation though

  Rimmon

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1/24/08 12:30:22 AM#17

that was f'ing hilarious, and just made my day.  I always knew that I was a teir above the peabrained masses, but finding out that in fact I am a "Glorious Master Race" just made me feel so l33t inside.

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  slannmage

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1/24/08 7:41:59 AM#18

THIS IS A MUMORPUGER

  Vincenz

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1/24/08 7:49:18 AM#19

Anyone who finds the Witcher confusing and "too hard" needs to stick with Pac Man.

  fusionx212

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1/24/08 9:36:11 AM#20

i found the witcher boring and controls to be lame. but thats my opinion i didnt like the witcher i liked the idea of the game tho. and the intro video looked good rest of it was poor IMO.


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