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  User Deleted
1/23/08 12:49:51 PM#21

i soooooooooooooooooooooooooo want to play this game cant wait until the weekend im appecting any hints/tips so plz get back to me thx  oh and do the poll plz

is pw good

yes i love it
no i hate it
it gets a bit boring
the action never stops
i've never played it but i want to
i've never played it and dont want to
(login to vote)
  popinjay

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Joined: 9/07/07
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1/24/08 6:35:06 AM#22

 One quick tip,

Play a Werefox (WF) character... or bring a major credit card or alternative payment method.

  Liddokun

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Joined: 7/08/03
Posts: 1631

1/24/08 8:44:59 AM#23

Pretty much how typical F2P item mall based game are setup.

  AbIeL

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Joined: 12/27/04
Posts: 150

My life is nothing without Jesus.

1/24/08 5:11:24 PM#24
Originally posted by sfwtboy

everyone tells you that this game is quest based and all that what they do not tell you is that this game is only quest based until around level 34 (I would know im level 64 on the Delphi sever right now). after level 34 its mostly grind you may get a couple quest per level but that will only get you about 30% and it keeps getting worse at level 64 I takes me with a ex scroll 1 hour to get 10% and that with using heiros to and around level 70 I have many friends at this level its goes down to about 5% per hout now there is an alturnative you can do aoe partys after level 59 and you will around 30% per hour around level 60 the thing is with an aoe party is that you go through 1 heirogram an hour which can get pretty pricey but if you can afford it what the heck I posted this just to inform you that anyone that says this game is quest based is lie I dont hate this game or anything I just feel misinformed and would like others to know

  Senretsu

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Joined: 9/26/07
Posts: 65

1/25/08 12:53:40 AM#25

 

Originally posted by AbIeL
Originally posted by sfwtboy

everyone tells you that this game is quest based and all that what they do not tell you is that this game is only quest based until around level 34 (I would know im level 64 on the Delphi sever right now). after level 34 its mostly grind you may get a couple quest per level but that will only get you about 30% and it keeps getting worse at level 64 I takes me with a ex scroll 1 hour to get 10% and that with using heiros to and around level 70 I have many friends at this level its goes down to about 5% per hout now there is an alturnative you can do aoe partys after level 59 and you will around 30% per hour around level 60 the thing is with an aoe party is that you go through 1 heirogram an hour which can get pretty pricey but if you can afford it what the heck I posted this just to inform you that anyone that says this game is quest based is lie I dont hate this game or anything I just feel misinformed and would like others to know

 

Sadly he's pretty much right. I got past that level 30 hump and suddenly the quests really began to thin out. I mean the game has variety but around that level the sweet spot ends and you start repeating quests and better equipment and socializing becomes your new main drive in Perfect World. If you don't have a guild by then, better start hunting because the game has alot more staying power when you do, as goes for any online game.

 

But I don't mean to discourage people from this game. Maybe if we get enough people playing, quitting and then bitching they'll fix it, haha. But personally I've never payed real money for anything in the game, and my gold is usually overflowing, albeit I haven't been able to afford a mount yet. It all just gives me strong flashbacks of what happened to Maplestory once the cash shop finally (FINALLY) opened up. People everywhere dumping money into pretend merchandise so they'll look cooler to the high levels and guild masters above them who aren't silly 13 year olds that waste thier money on crap. And then you just get the occasional no-life person decked out in items, but every MMO's got a few bad grapes like that. The game has enough customization for me without the cash shop.

I am a connoisseur of fine wine and fine pixels

  neko-kun

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Joined: 4/15/05
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2/07/08 8:26:42 AM#26

I actually find it funny that someone who dislikes so much about a game to spend 100s of dollars on it.

 

Anyway, I thought I should add my two cents to this argument.

First off I am crazy for 3D graphics and Character creation. I 3D model in my spare time. So, being able to create a character like the way u can in this game and then walk around in such a beautiful game is already enough for me.

But more to the point. They spent almost $4 million on this game and you think you can get to the end of the game for free? Good luck.

If I was a games company I would create free games too and then find a way to make a profit. This way you get a flood of potential customers. However, I would continue giving people lots of quest and storyline but give them less and less XP for it as they advance. This way, people will look forward to the end and possibly pay me for it.

I am nowhere close to the levels you guys are on but I tend to jump from one free MMO to another. PW is not perfect but it has the potential. If they don’t listen to what western customers want then they will loose out in the west. There are lots of other MMOG companies that want to get into the West. One of them might copy all the benefits of PW and add what western people want. But for now I am amazed with what they have created. I think China will overtake Korea and lead the Asian MMO market if they continue like this.

 

And one other thing, I am dyslexic and yes I typed this up in Word before pasting it here. So don’t come down on me too hard if you find mistakes.

  doodler222

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Joined: 6/16/06
Posts: 87

2/25/08 12:31:07 PM#27

  bobbernard12

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Posts: 7

2/26/08 5:56:56 AM#28

Shall we try Perfect World for the perfect world?

  kUmaLS

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 10

never talking
keeps on walking
cast magic

2/26/08 10:33:08 PM#29

try to play a warrior (bhuda skill) i dont know its english version skill but recovers hp

 

PW ph is more expensive i think but you can see players are at the highest levels

 

i am an elf priest it only takes me 3 months to reach level 82 but sad to say, im inactive for

the meantime because of my work. but you can do many options in leveling up

 

if you were born with a golden spoon in your mouth, why dont you try lvl in crafting

grinding is the most easiest style, but there are so many ways to level up

you can try the so called dragon seeking quest, and hunt those loots.

getting bored leads you to no way

 

why dont try to be a menyak

  charlizd

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2/26/08 10:54:39 PM#30
Originally posted by popinjay

ok,

ShadowZero says some things that are true, but he leaving out SOOOOO much more about what is truly wrong with this game. Shall we examine?

First off, if you live in the US or Canada, you will have some of the WORST lag youve ever had in your life. You know why? The "English" server is located in MAYLAYSIA. So, given that, if you like PvP or doing the horse races (for prizes that mean something in the game) or generally just exping on mobs: you are gonna be a few seconds slower than all the Chinese players, half of Europe and some Americans and Canadians on proxies. Shadow didnt mention that. There is no, nor wil lthere be a US based server, so you will always be slower for pvp and pve and whatever.

This game is F2P; but its not. Its a HUGE asian grindfest cashshop game. Meaning, you dont pay a small monthly fee like WoW or EQ2 or whatever. How these asian grinder games get you is really sneaky. Shadow didnt tell you so I will:

First, you download the "free" game, make a character and get playing. Up until level 30 or so (the game has levels past 100+) you dont need much gear, but after that you need some good stuff. Why? Well, its a asiangrinder, so each mob you kill is only gonna give you maximum .02% of your exp level, no matter how high the mob is. If youre lv30 and kill a lv40 mob.. guess what? .02% exp. No incentive to kill higher even if you can. Kill stuff your level? .01 maybe once in awhile, .02. Thats the reality. You are gonna be here until they put a man on Mars, my friend. Your gear better start getting better around this level, which means you have to buy everything.. healthpots, manapots, weapons, all of it. Now unless you play a Werefox class (kind of a summoner) you are gonna be broke every level, cause after you spend all that money on pots.. (one pot a fight) you have to repair. Its not uncommon for you to blow almost all the money you made grinding on repairs, esp if youre a tank or WR. The only way around this is to, you guessed it, BUY from the cash shop.

If you dont buy from the cash shop, the Chinese players and European players will wipe your ass all over the map. So, you have to buy exp scrolls to get a decent exp rate (now .03% instead of .02 lmao!) and that costs. Oh, you wanna craft and make good items and not have to depend on luck? Buy a item for that. Oh, the pots arent healing you enough or you run out too fast (each mission youre out of pots) buy a health hierogrph. That little item now costs 260k IN game gold and you cannot buy that item from ANY npc. ONLY from the cash shop, so if you dont spend real dough, you have to hope someone else did, and theyll sell it to you for that ripoff rate. (to make 250k in this game is not easy).

There is no perfection of classes in this game. A MG will nuke anyone to death except another MG. So wheres that balance? If a MG sees you first, youre dead. There IS no balanced experience parties in this game, Shadow lies so bad. After level, heck, and no time is there any balanced partying except in a TW. Everything else exp wise is get a tank, some mages, buy a stack of hieros (you burn thru them in a day of exp) and mass nuke mobs. Over and Over until you reach level 110 or whatever. Thats your exp. Or, you could run around doing these dumbass DragonQuests, that take at mininum one hour of flying and teleporting around, (no fighting) then you get some exp. This game gives too little exp and then has one NPC that everyone sits at. This npc named Eunice gives you, each day,20% friggin percent of your level just for 5 mins of buying stones, tracking down 1 of 4 or so npcs, and talkig to them, Go back and get 20%. Wheres the fun in that? Shadow does this once a day, but he wont tell you.

The worst thing, is this game has little place for US players. Why? because all the Chinese own everything, or damn near all of it. There are Territorries that on Delphi, 5 of them are owned by ONE Chinese guild with a crapload of lv80/90 players. So what they do, capture a land, get money from it, then capture more. Its what the game is made for. And soon there will be two big Chinese guilds, then one. And if you dont speak Mandarin, your ass out.

Not to think this game is a total waste, its GREAT eyecandy. They have the best character creation screen you will ever see in ANY mmo hands down. Thats the truth. The visuals are good in game and it is "free" to play, if you play a Werefox.

But honestly, if you play this game past level 70 and youre from the US, you have some problems. Theres way more better content made (by the way, this game is called the Chinese WoW.. whats that tell you about the jealousy/emulation of WoW?)

So to sum up, lag. Lots of it. Chinese players who are gods because they spend their mommies credit cards up to get exp scrolls, dolls for pking (so they dont lose items), hieros, extremely fast mounts (so they win all the races combined with the lag delay youll get), Chinese spam over the channels (hey GM! you no fix this game.. I no cheat,,, i earn that 100 million dollar! you suck GM).

But hey, like Shadow said. its free.

Actually to make 250k in game is heaps easy and i had over 2 mil in game gold before i was lvl 18 i agree that later in game it does get hard but to be honest with you there are 2 things in item shop that are anygood and that is the hp and mp heiro's the exp scroll is only good when you solo as when you gruop exp is distributed between pty members hence wasting exp scroll and to the fact you said people spend real money to get fast pets? well all pets come out a base level and it is up to you to lvl them up to get them faster so i think that is a waste of a whinge if they have faster pets then you unfortunately that is bad luck on your part the game has alot more to do then just grind try doing dragon quest they get you great exp and bonuses without haveing to fight much at all plus you have eunice in Dragon city that gives the easiest exp in game it may only be once a day but it adds up to more exp every lvl you gain people are always selling cash shop items ingame so there is no need to spend cash in the shop unless you really want to i have not used any real money in this game yet i am currently sitting on just over 5 mil in gold at lvl 66 have just about everything i need from fully stated armour that will last me a further 6 lvl's to my Deity weapon that will last me a further 5 lvl's so if you use your head in this game you can do without the cash shop jsut shop around study the AH sell gear at good profit margins dont be greedy and you will come out on top all the time.

  doodler222

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Joined: 6/16/06
Posts: 87

2/29/08 11:54:03 AM#31

Not really, because you can buy the coins needed for the cash shop in the auction house.

  doodler222

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Joined: 6/16/06
Posts: 87

2/29/08 11:57:55 AM#32

I agree that there is money to be made .

  kUmaLS

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 10

never talking
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cast magic

2/29/08 10:19:25 PM#33

mr. deb where is your location?

 

i mean your country

 

we filipinos plays it ver y different

  qombi

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 1112

2/29/08 11:37:50 PM#34
Originally posted by sfwtboy

everyone tells you that this game is quest based and all that what they do not tell you is that this game is only quest based until around level 34 (I would know im level 64 on the Delphi sever right now). after level 34 its mostly grind you may get a couple quest per level but that will only get you about 30% and it keeps getting worse at level 64 I takes me with a ex scroll 1 hour to get 10% and that with using heiros to and around level 70 I have many friends at this level its goes down to about 5% per hout now there is an alturnative you can do aoe partys after level 59 and you will around 30% per hour around level 60 the thing is with an aoe party is that you go through 1 heirogram an hour which can get pretty pricey but if you can afford it what the heck I posted this just to inform you that anyone that says this game is quest based is lie I dont hate this game or anything I just feel misinformed and would like others to know


Everyone is different, I hate the linear quest based mmorpgs of today garbage. I prefer to go with a group and make my own adventures.

  Delphian

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Joined: 1/19/06
Posts: 195

3/01/08 12:14:20 AM#35

I quit Perfect World almost 2 months ago (maybe 1.5). I was level 78 at the time and among some of the highest levels in the game (83 was the highest at the time). I live in the U.S. I must be insane.

It did get boring, though.

Money wasn't a problem, to be honest. At that level, in an hour or two of farming high grade materials (even faster with a land mount), you could easily earn one million by selling them in ADC. One million was enough to exchange for approximately 12 cubi-gold at an auctioneer. 12 cubi-gold is enough to purchase you 3 silver fus and 3 mijis. That's 3 hours of AoE grind. Or, you could take the alternative, more conservative approach, and regular grind or FB grind. The fus would last you much longer here, and there would be no use for mijis in FB (which is efficient, too). Even high level FBs are rewarding in exp and loot.

Aside from all that, the game is very repetitive.

The events are fun, territorial wars are fun, PvP is fun... Could be much more enjoyable if you're a PvP freak and appreciate more hardcore PvP (item dropping).

Considering everything, it's probably the best F2P out there aside from Anarchy Online core.

  mahierl2005

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3/01/08 12:19:27 AM#36

I heard multiple things from multiple people, saying that it was a gfrinder, a quester yada yada.. played it for myself for 2 days and realized that questing was most definately NOT the focus of the game, and quickly moved on to something else.

  xauss

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why do today, that which you can put off till tomorrow

3/05/08 10:20:24 PM#37

it is a grinder... though the grind doesnt really get bad untill high 60s (because you can and should run lots of FBs (dungeon quests for XP) as well as questing and a bit of farming... though from high 30s you might need to grind a little each level

there are 2 ways to play this game and be 'rich' without being a 'donater' (cubi-gold buyer) or resorting to RMT to buy from goldfarmers

1. be a WF, low pot usage, negligable repair costs, tame rares to sell (dodo bear, kittens etc)

2. farm FBs (dungeons) with freinds over and over for molders (rares) and sell them

 

btw if it wasnt for the fun my guild has in TW each week - i'd prolly have quit by now... though i feel the time is close

  doodler222

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3/07/08 5:49:52 AM#38

  Unrealevil

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3/09/08 3:15:52 PM#39

City of Heroes and City of Villains has amazing customization, so don't say there isn't another game with it...

  Truecidation

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8/09/08 10:24:57 PM#40

6 months after Popinjay posted, it still holds true. PW looks great (but how long are you going to live on looks, seriously?), but after the initial rush of exploring the world and getting over your level 1-30 honeymoon you'll realise what he said about burning money on hieros is the truth. That doesn't even cover what you spend on repairs.

At least in other grindfests it's actually possible to grind the whole way until the endgame without spending a single dime of real money on item mall / cash shop items. Case in point, Flyff (another mindless asian grindfest). But at least in Flyff you can actually make do with npc-bought hp/mp restoratives (food, refreshers, pills), and they don't really cost much compared to how much you make from loot. PW? Ha, good luck grinding "the old school way" if you're not prepared to burn vast amounts of in-game money on buying hieros from other players. It'll be a long, slow slog, and nobody wants to party with you if you keep needing to rest for mp or buying pots in town. "Everybody" (i.e. all the high level players) knows that the way to go is aoe parties anyway, freeloaders be prepared for long hours of solo grinding.

 

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Who cares how a game looks like? Sure, it's nice and awesome to have that much customisation as PW offers, but in the gamescreen zoomed out to see around you comfortably your character's face is maybe all of 20 pixels wide. You're not gonna sit there staring at it's ass all day either. Another beautiful sunset? Another panoramic mountain top view? Yawn, been there, done that. They're nice to look at the first few times, but we don't play these games just to look at the view.

Whoever said the game had loads of complexity and depth (compared to other MMOs) is on drugs. It's the same asian grindfest a,b,c class types with neatly pigeonholed x,y,z "tank, healer, nuker" roles. You want to be different and play a strength-based melee mage, for example? Not happening. Even worse, skill levels are level-capped, so any warrior at level X will always have a max of level Y skill, for example. And people hoped the customisation would extend beyond merely looks... hah.

The "multitudes" of quests are practically ALL of the "visit X npc, kill Y mobs, get Z items" type of quests. And once you're higher level the famous quest npc (Eunice) makes you pay out the wazoo for a daily runaround which gets boring (and have I mentioned expensive?) real fast.

Not saying having loads of quests is bad, but at this point in the evolution of computer games you'd think we'd have evolved beyond the basic "give item X to npc Y". Where are the decisions to make, different quest endings, factions? Nope... just the same old, same old.

PvP? Three words for you, global pk ganking. Sure, there's Territorial Wars, but a couple of top guilds own the server anyway, if you try to run against them you'll only get raped and waste all that hard-earned bidding money. And if you ignore TW, all that's left is dueling and pk, and duelling is basically the same as pk except that it doesn't start with you getting caught with your pants down. If you were hoping for something interesting like tournaments and stuff, nope. Same old azn pk game here, "gank the noobs, hope they fight back so they turn colour, then kill them and see what they drop".

All looks and very little substance. Basically just a shinier version of the traditional asian grindfest. That's not enough reason to play it if you normally avoid those kinds of games.

" In Defeat, Malice; In Victory, Revenge! "

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