EVE Online

[12:37:16] <+Batolemaeus> so when is that PvE-Only-Server coming out Wrangler?
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[12:42:13] <!Wrangler> well, regardless on if you make that scenario happen or not, I'm not seeing a PvE only EVE server coming...

Well, no, they do not, Gramis.

I was being sarcastic mate .. here i`ll edit my post so it`ll be more clearer

The only thing I see here is 2 different fanbases bashing heads over things that one of them will not understand.

The WoW fanbase is arguably more casual, though I can invest maybe an hour a day in EVE and actually advance somewhere. I have been playing EVE for roughly 2 months and I have about 2m skill points which pretty much makes me a big noob. I have avoided 0.0 space and most systems lower than 0.4 and I have yet to been griefed or podkilled.

Think about it, when living in an area that has lots of armed robberies or crime do you merely just stroll through the area with your wallet out dancing and singing annoying, let alone bad showtunes? No, you probably wouldn't even be going through that area if you had the choice.

EVE brings a certain amount of realism to PvP, it's penalties are harsh, and you have a lot to lose.

It seems that the people spouting WoW PvP is better don't seem to understand that it is there to please the community .

By all means this does not mean WoW PvP is "bad" (Though any game that revolves it's PvP around grinding in my opinion, needs to re-adjust their system.) After play WoW for 2 years, seeing the birth of battlegrounds and the changes in the PvP system is one of the reasons why I quit in the firstplace. Anyone can get GOOD gear, I'm not talking about crappy blues. I'm taking a few pieces of arena gear in a Month, they don't even need to win that often.

I was in a Arena team with a rating of roughly 1600, I was getting 400 points or more a week, in 2 weeks I could easily have any of the cheaper pieces of the corrosponding season. That greatly increased the wins I was recieving and I found PvP wasn't fun anymore, crappy players that just stacked more resilience had a huge upperhand against players who lacked it.

It's not the same in EVE, you can have a great ship, but if you put yourself in a situation that isn't favourable you will pay the price, EVE players probably value that realism.

TL;DR : Splitting the EVE's gamer base would cause it's downfall. Because it would be going against the fundementals that the game was created on. Imagine if Blizzard made it that epics weren't BoP, think about the consequences.

All my points have been said in this thread already pretty much but it seems that the people saying that EVE needs a PVE only server are to ignorant to see or consider anyone elses view point.

Originally posted by krackajap

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by batolemaeus

Dude, look at the Date.

It was an April fools joke.

And i think it makes perfectly clear what ccp thinks of a pve-only-server..

 

Bah, I read the date at  Jan 4th, 2007.  Not my fault Euro's can't type a proper date field.

Just like it's not our fault the rest of the world uses the metric system.

I blame the French for that. 

Originally posted by Kulthos

Gatecamping coupled with the very high death penalty make EVE a non-starter for me.  I tried a couple of times and both times I got ganked at a gate while doing storyline missions.  You can't stick to safe areas, as the storyline missions send you to low security space. 

As the most successful MMORPGs all have low death penalties and restricted PvP, will EVE see the wrting on the wall and make a non-PvP server?  The non-PvP server would likely have much more traffic than a PvP server, judging from the populations on games that offer both types.

 

I think you'll find that EvE prefers quality gameplay, and caters to a certain niche. Making a PvE server would simply degrade the game into the "run of the mill" crap that 90% of all MMORPS's are.

Originally posted by MrGrim

The only thing I see here is 2 different fanbases bashing heads over things that one of them will not understand.

The WoW fanbase is arguably more casual, though I can invest maybe an hour a day in EVE and actually advance somewhere. I have been playing EVE for roughly 2 months and I have about 2m skill points which pretty much makes me a big noob. I have avoided 0.0 space and most systems lower than 0.4 and I have yet to been griefed or podkilled.

Think about it, when living in an area that has lots of armed robberies or crime do you merely just stroll through the area with your wallet out dancing and singing annoying, let alone bad showtunes? No, you probably wouldn't even be going through that area if you had the choice.

EVE brings a certain amount of realism to PvP, it's penalties are harsh, and you have a lot to lose.

It seems that the people spouting WoW PvP is better don't seem to understand that it is there to please the community .

By all means this does not mean WoW PvP is "bad" (Though any game that revolves it's PvP around grinding in my opinion, needs to re-adjust their system.) After play WoW for 2 years, seeing the birth of battlegrounds and the changes in the PvP system is one of the reasons why I quit in the firstplace. Anyone can get GOOD gear, I'm not talking about crappy blues. I'm taking a few pieces of arena gear in a Month, they don't even need to win that often.

I was in a Arena team with a rating of roughly 1600, I was getting 400 points or more a week, in 2 weeks I could easily have any of the cheaper pieces of the corrosponding season. That greatly increased the wins I was recieving and I found PvP wasn't fun anymore, crappy players that just stacked more resilience had a huge upperhand against players who lacked it.

It's not the same in EVE, you can have a great ship, but if you put yourself in a situation that isn't favourable you will pay the price, EVE players probably value that realism.

 

TL;DR : Splitting the EVE's gamer base would cause it's downfall. Because it would be going against the fundementals that the game was created on. Imagine if Blizzard made it that epics weren't BoP, think about the consequences.

 

All my points have been said in this thread already pretty much but it seems that the people saying that EVE needs a PVE only server are to ignorant to see or consider anyone elses view point.

 

Having the very best gear in EVE means almost nothing, and I don't imagine there will ever come a time when I feel completely safe. It really depends on where you are and who your with, but your always looking over your shoulder. Furthermore, I think the OP is dead wrong in thinking WOW type PVP is a threat to EVE. What is a threat is a game like Darkfall, that takes EVE's formula and puts it on land. Other than this, I only see EVE growing and getting better.

I wouldent mind them opening another server ..personally the amount of lag in fleet battles & even in some missions is unacceptable .

would keep the new server to new chars no transfers fron old server would be intersesting to see how many players would flock to a new server with no est power blocks

but with out pvp there is no eve

On the pve thing CCP could easly make hi sec more fun for the less pvp inclined by bringing in more content  better scripted missions ..allowing the hunting of neg standing  pilots with out concord saving the pirate is something I feal ccp really needs to do. the way it stands now the gankers have nothing to fear .

when I first started playing omber was easy to find jaspet too but ccp  nerfed the roids to push players into taking more risks to reap the isk that mining & production produce.

CCP caters to the pvp population as thats there core player base .

I would think some small adjustments would bring more new players to eve ..if they really wanted more new players that is  I dont think the current server can handle more players not many anyway as the lag probs are not getting better .

I enjoy eve ..but I get borred with it after a few months ..so I go off and play the rew released games untill I get borred with them and I come back to eve.

can you imagine EvE with a land side to it now that would be fun