World of Warcraft

Basically what you will have is raid equipped people slaughtering the newbs (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will populated until the newbs get sick of being slaughtered (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will then be a dead, empty, lifeless zone (just like lvl 70 BGs).

Hasn't this idea basically been done in every single BG? You can't have raid gear people fighting blue/green geared people. It won't last. Just stick to PvE, WoW.

Obviously WoW took this idea from WAR, they are complete copycats, blah blah blah...........

In seriousness this sounds like an awesome idea and I can't wait for it.

there is no real pvp in wow (anymore), just a big honor points grindfest thats all and it wont change. World pvp in outlands? LMAO - i have to wait 2 weeks to spot some 2-3 low lvls in halaa to get the final marks i need. If I need thralmar marks I need to ask a guild mate to log his alliance char so i can gank him 3-4 times, haha - thats it basically.

PvP in a matter that you actually change the balance on your server or influence developments of the realm doesnt exist. Its all about zoning in, farming points, zoning out, spending them on wellfare epics and bah thats it. With the introduction of crossserver battlegroups the last spirit of pvp was gone. It doesnt make a big difference if u r fighting a player or any NPC, its just ganking red flagged things.

In older days we had some epic battles at least in AV, where you got to know some of the opponent side. Some where known to be good leaders and you were eager to confront them. Not the lousy farm runs we have today.....

siege weapons in WotLK? Dont have big hopes in that either. In AV bunkers and towers burn if you capture them. Same will be in WotLK - it will be instanced and you drag some siege weapon and fire on predefined buildings. If it wasnt implemented in the original game like u could attack SW, Orgrimar, Guildkeeps etc. there is no way to implement real siege warfare afterwards.

Originally posted by brostyn

Basically what you will have is raid equipped people slaughtering the newbs (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will populated until the newbs get sick of being slaughtered (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will then be a dead, empty, lifeless zone (just like lvl 70 BGs).

 

Hasn't this idea basically been done in every single BG? You can't have raid gear people fighting blue/green geared people. It won't last. Just stick to PvE, WoW.

Actually Blizzard (smartly) added in a system a while ago that checks your gear level as well as organizational level (i.e. if you enter BG queue alone or in group) and then puts you into a matchup with similarly geared and organized people.

Bla Bla Bla Bla i like WoW, because when i pay the subscription for WoW atleast i know that its not a dead game, and that blizzard is always working to improve the game (I dont care if they fail to do it, atleast they try!).

I wanna see what kind of support WarHammer will have... Or will be the same sh** over and over for ever.

I play Team Fortress 2 for my PvP fix.  No one will beat me because they are higher level.  No one will beat me because they have better gear.  If someone beats me it's because they won a balanced game fair and square, through tactics, teamwork, and skill.

You won't find that in any MMOG.

Originally posted by heerobya

 

Originally posted by brostyn

Basically what you will have is raid equipped people slaughtering the newbs (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will populated until the newbs get sick of being slaughtered (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will then be a dead, empty, lifeless zone (just like lvl 70 BGs).

 

Hasn't this idea basically been done in every single BG? You can't have raid gear people fighting blue/green geared people. It won't last. Just stick to PvE, WoW.

 

Actually Blizzard (smartly) added in a system a while ago that checks your gear level as well as organizational level (i.e. if you enter BG queue alone or in group) and then puts you into a matchup with similarly geared and organized people.

 

when was this added? cause there is still a huge problem with twinks and pre-made grps in battlegrounds.

Originally posted by ThalosVipav

Originally posted by heerobya

 

Originally posted by brostyn

Basically what you will have is raid equipped people slaughtering the newbs (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will populated until the newbs get sick of being slaughtered (just like lvl 70 BGs). It will then be a dead, empty, lifeless zone (just like lvl 70 BGs).

 

Hasn't this idea basically been done in every single BG? You can't have raid gear people fighting blue/green geared people. It won't last. Just stick to PvE, WoW.

 

Actually Blizzard (smartly) added in a system a while ago that checks your gear level as well as organizational level (i.e. if you enter BG queue alone or in group) and then puts you into a matchup with similarly geared and organized people.

 

when was this added? cause there is still a huge problem with twinks and pre-made grps in battlegrounds.

I believe that system only works with arena, i have shite gear and have seen many guys raid/whatever the new gladiator stuff is called running around slaughtering in bg's.

It'll be interesting, but I guarantee this zone won't be for the better of WoW. Blizzard is no good at making PvP objectives, areas like EPL and Zangarmarsh are proof. Heck, even their instanced battlegrounds aren't that great: they couldn't even think of something new to add to EotS! It really just seems like they're trying desperately to cling on to subscribers who enjoy PvP so they don't go to WAR, lol they should give up now!

I still don't know whether WAR will be any good, it's not possible to know until it launches. Not even the beta players know how truly good it will be when released, because a lot of changes can be made during beta. I'm going to give WAR a try though, I'm also going to try all the other new games coming out in '08 hoping I really like one. If I don't like any of them, then I'm going to start an entirely new WoW account from scratch a few months after WotLK is released, hopefully everything (like prices for stuff) will be balanced out by then.

And if nothing in 2008 meets my requirements then I'll just retire from MMORPGs entirely :P