General Discussion

Originally posted by Beatnik59

So, why should people who aren't in MMOs now get into MMOs today, given that they have MySpace, Facebook, XBox Live, YouTube, and a whole lot of other things?  Moreover, why should the WoW diehard try other MMOs if they are sick of WoW, when they have a whole lot of other non-MMO online stuff to do?

Rofl, this has to be the most clueless comparison I have ever seen. Are you seriously comparing Myspace and Facebook with an MMO?

Ouch, did you fall really really hard on your head when you were young ?

I dont feel it is dying it just need"(excuse the pun here) a hero,The industry is crying for 1 everytime a log on here everyone is saying "man we need a new game(insert bonnie tyler song "we need a hero")And tbh it is over due,With at least 4 big names due early next year I am keeping the faith that 1 or more will deliver and if (god forbid) all 4 do come up trumps then how happy will we be ,Pigs in sh*t wont have nothing on us,We are just in a slump now and looking to the future and lets hope thats a rainbow we see and not a comet.

Originally posted by Beatnik59

why should people who aren't in MMOs now get into MMOs today, given that they have MySpace, Facebook, XBox Live, YouTube, and a whole lot of other things?  Moreover, why should the WoW diehard try other MMOs if they are sick of WoW, when they have a whole lot of other non-MMO online stuff to do?

- altho I wouldnt be surprised if ex-WOW fans hang around looking for another mmo

MMO genre will always have fans, but MMOs are not for everyone

I personally dont like Consoles -- but Consoles have their fans too

I feel that they are not going away as much as that their is a lack of ideas at the moment.  It seems that all the great MMO's that have come out like Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, Eve Online, UO, ect... were the base for all other games.  While they are different in some ways they are just an old idea with a new twist and few nice features.  In my opinion there needs to be more creativity and a feel from developers that they are willing to take chances and think outside the box.

Originally posted by Lauraliane

 

Originally posted by Beatnik59

So, why should people who aren't in MMOs now get into MMOs today, given that they have MySpace, Facebook, XBox Live, YouTube, and a whole lot of other things?  Moreover, why should the WoW diehard try other MMOs if they are sick of WoW, when they have a whole lot of other non-MMO online stuff to do?

 

Rofl, this has to be the most clueless comparison I have ever seen. Are you seriously comparing Myspace and Facebook with an MMO?

Ouch, did you fall really really hard on your head when you were young ?

You can't work on your Orc Shaman if you are working on your profile, or answering someone else's.  The best part about these things is that they don't cost anything, yet provide a ton of distraction.

Originally posted by Arthmis1

I feel that they are not going away as much as that their is a lack of ideas at the moment.  It seems that all the great MMO's that have come out like Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, Eve Online, UO, ect... were the base for all other games.  While they are different in some ways they are just an old idea with a new twist and few nice features.  In my opinion there needs to be more creativity and a feel from developers that they are willing to take chances and think outside the box.

Yeah I do agree that alot devs are sticky to the "hey this makes money"syndrome but with titles like(yea I am bumming it again) TCOS thinking outside the box,Then maybe you should check them out.

Thanks for the tip I will keep an eye on them for sure!

Originally posted by heerobya

I'm so sick of all this B.S. from the extreme hard-right side of MMO gamers.. the so called "hardcore."

They were around in the early days of the MMORPG. When games were a lot more tough and unforgiving.

They are now the very loud and very vocal minority. They feel as if they are right and all the new MMORPG players are wrong or stupid or weak etc. etc.etc. They feel that they are special because they've been banging through MMOs for a long time. You are not special. You are the minority.

Truth is, the genre has changed. Some of us old school MMO vets like me have changed with it and learned to enjoy the more casual aspects of our favorite MMOs.

You "hardcore" seem to cling to the bygone days of old, somehow expecting that they'll come back. They won't. It's plain and simple. You have ONE game in development that promises to be an "old school" experience, and most would consider that game to be vaporware with no real chance of release.

Besides that, there is one game out there that is still "hardcore" and follows the old school set of rules, EVE, and I know a lot of you enjoy it. Great, awesome, I'm happy for you. 

Now shut the f*#$ up.

I know there are a lot of newer MMO players that defend their modern-generation games with just as much zealotry and bias as you "old school" vets who do nothing but spit the same trash as the three posters before you did. (McDonalds, Brittney Spears, Chinese Gold farmers anyone?)

Seriously. Get over it. Play EVE, hope for Darkfall, or move on. All this WoW bashing and "carebear" crap and "linear sucks this" and "linear sucks that" bull sh!t is annoying, childish, and just plan stupid.

If you really are so "mature" and want games with more "challenge" that take more "intelligence" then you should learn to post with intelligence, maturity... or is that too challenging?

The younger generation MMO players are just as guilty of immaturity and stupidity as they exhaustively defend their MMO of choice from the "hardcore" zealots.

I know it won't end, I know ya'll don't care. You enjoy bickering back and forth about this that and the other thing, pretending as you type behind your anonymous screen name that you are more wise and intelligent then the poster before you, as if your opinion carries more weight.

This thread is ridiculous. I petition for it to be closed. It has run its course and is no longer useful or productive (if it ever was.)

The FACT is, there are more people playing MMOs today then there ever was before. Does this mean the MMO era is dying? No, no it does not.

You are very defensive against the wrong thing man, be offensive to the devs for making such watered down crap games as of lately and be angry with the people whom latch onto them, this is what is making the devs final decision on what the next games will be like.

I don't feel its dying at all. Compare the subscription numbers from 1999, 2005 and now 2007 and you will see the jump is huge in the numbers of people playing online subscription games.

Its changed for sure and I think the OP and many in this thread are just longing for the feeling of the original games. Like in EQ1 your first trip from Qeynos to Freeport-a memory from 1999 that I will never forget. Or from Daoc your first major RvR or Relic defense/offense. So its amazing for a time and then eventually the game wears out. I could never play any of these games for more then 6 months. I got burned out too fast, which is a major problem with the hardcore crowd.

WoW does not suck, it just rubs people the wrong way to be playing with 12 year olds I suspect. The chat in major cities and barrens bears this out, but in every server if you play long enough you get to know who is who and can find a more mature guild to hang with. I played WoW longer then any of the others and I had a great time. Its only as simple as you want it to be, but even with all the content it gets old after a time. You can only re-roll so