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Nasica 1/09/08 10:29:29 PM
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While i do understand the problem of racism in sport. Similar to the problem going on in the Cricket at the moment. Andrew Symonds (black) was called a monkey by a Indian player. Yet i am still trying to figure out how that was racist in any way. What are your opinions, how can we better rid sport of racism. Because while i do support the change from the old days when racist sledges where commonplace. I think a line has to be drawn somewhere. Perhaps when the person is actually offended. As with the golf case, Tiger Woods considered it a 'non-issue'. |
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methane47 1/09/08 11:32:28 PM
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Originally posted by Nasica do you not know the cultural beginnings of lynching?? ... its the same as seeing a jewish guy playing a sport.. and saying that they should be gassed... even in a funny way.. you just wouldn't feel right about it right? Or if you jokingly ask an arabic athlete if they have a bomb under their shirt... |
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Nasica 1/10/08 12:31:39 AM
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Your examples are examples of racism, i agree. But your intention there was to link specific events in history to races to make a joke. To use a cricket example again. One of the newspapers has suggested to call Andrew Symonds "Heston", after Charlton Heston, who is the actor who played George Taylor in the movie "Planet of the Apes" Dont you think the connection is being dragged out a bit far? |
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patri0tz 1/10/08 1:05:17 AM
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Originally posted by methane47 The dictionary definition of lynch is "to put to death, esp. by hanging, by mob action and without legal authority." Mob justice existed a long time before that term was even coined, much less associated with racism in America.
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methane47 1/10/08 1:36:12 AM
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Originally posted by patri0tz And gassing existed before the holocaust and bombings existed before 9-11... But all those things now how racial connotations when put in certain contexts.
The connection isn't being dragged out at all.. the repercussions are. |
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Rikimaru_X 1/10/08 2:00:30 AM
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Yo that's RACIST. When you make a joke like that, it's not a joke...either that or you be saying some bad comments when some ppl arn't around. |
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Draenor 1/10/08 2:02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Nasica
Calling a black person a monkey is racist because of the origin of the insult...it's the same as saying that the black person is primitive. Oh and about the comment for which he was fired, if he had chosen ANY word other than lynch, I think he would have been fine...it's just one of those things...I don't think he really meant it to have a racial connotation, especilly if the guy has no prior history of being a bigot. by the way...what the hell were you doing watching golf? |
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patri0tz 1/10/08 2:08:09 AM
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Originally posted by methane47 Not debating that at all, just pointing out that the "cultural beginnings" of lynching had nothing to do with racism.
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