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12/28/07 10:38:48 PM#41
I am a Ron Paul supporter - and I am glad to hear this in only the sense of it representing more Ron Paul supporters - but for the love of all that is good - Stop This Moronic idea, you are only giving the media fuel for mockery, derision and scorn For the Ron Paul campaign to be a success, he needs the respect and admiration of the mainstream media and populace - stunts like this will only chip away at his chances, because like it or not you will not be taken seriously prefacing any political opinion with, effectively, "I am a WoW player and I support.." I am not saying you can't play WoW and have well informed political standings so no flame war necessary- I am saying be practical, look from a bigger perspective, one of not how things should be in your mind but how things are. To beat the political good ol boy network and their following sheep at their game, we need to play the game their way and win - and the 'game' involved here is not an online MMO. Don't give them ammunition to belittle the movements for change, because mainstream media and candidates can and will do so. Swallow your pride and keep you political voices where they 'belong' (again, my use of this word is subjective, but factual at this time) |
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Reborn17
Novice Member
Joined: 9/17/07
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." |
12/28/07 10:56:02 PM#42
Originally posted by sewash Its not that serious I assure you. Ron Paul will not fly or fall on the actions of a few on a server in a video game. If a person doesn't have enough sense to appreciate what Ron Paul has to say on his own merits then it is their own stupidity or spiritual blindness that is the issue. I have no issue with this display, I appreciate and applaud it, my problem comes from the mindless numbnutz that fear the destruction of their gameplay experience more than the destruction of their country. People like that don't deserve freedom. Our founding fathers are corkscrewing in their graves.
"In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about we will further distract them with amusements, games, pastimes, passions, people's palaces...Soon we shall begin with the press to propose competitions in art, in sport of all kinds; these interestswill finally distract their minds from questions in which we found ourselves compelled to oppose them."
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" |
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12/28/07 11:15:44 PM#43
It's just a symptom that the bread and circuses don't matter anymore. If people don't take back their lives, they might as well hug the chains of their masters. I guess the fact that I don't watch television anymore means I'm "off the plantation." -- Brede |
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12/28/07 11:44:54 PM#44
Amusing but I really don't care. Real life invaded video games and MMORPGs long before Ron Paul... I don't feel any more immersed in a universe where spiders drop swords and my character's motivation for living is to kill the same bosses (aren't they dead already??) over and over for an epic weapon that everybody else already has. |
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12/29/07 12:09:29 AM#45
Originally posted by Reborn17 Reborn your the numbnutz. Just because someone doesnt want real world polotics in there game is no reason to assume they dont give a crap what happens to there country. Thinking that is simply idiotic. ITS A FREAKING GAME. Real world does not belong in GAMES. I play a fantasy GAME because I want to get away from the real world once in a while. Hell I even took issue seeing Christian guild spam in games. Like someone else said....what about thoes people that dont even live in the USA. Why should they have to deal with crap involving USA polotics? Even more I laugh at your quote. With your (rather uninformed) logic and that quote why are you even on these forums? The people I worry about are people like you, who cant understand the diffrence between entertainment and religion/politics. People play games, Watch movies, Watch sports ect because they enjoy them and in most cases use them as stress relief from the real world. That is my issue with bringing the real world into games. |
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12/29/07 12:42:03 AM#46
I don't see why people are so upset about this. Ron Paul isn't going to be President, anyways. He supports the constitution, and often expresses political ideals that would benefit the lower and middle classes. Since when has making sense gotten someone the Republican nomination? |
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12/29/07 1:08:07 AM#47
Having an issue with the people who bring politics and other drama into your game is understandable, but how could such a thing be regulated without infringing on people's rights? You can cover your ears and bitch about what the game should be, but people are assholes and will just do or say whatever they want if given half a chance. |
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12/29/07 1:16:42 AM#48
If anybody's really upset about this, they should just join in the march with NAKED DANCING NIGHT ELVES! |
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12/29/07 2:41:54 AM#49
Originally posted by Shoal I'd support GM's permabanning these morons mainly because one of the reasons I play games is to get away from politics, and I'm what many would consider to be a political junky. Frankly, even if Edwards, Dodd, or Kucinich supporters staged this, I'd feel the same way. The catch is that Ron Paul supporters are borderline cultists. CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested. Once a denizen of Ahazi |
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12/29/07 3:11:40 AM#50
They've made their way to SWG too. There's been a few pop up on Chilastra in Restuss spamming crap about it...I don't even know who Ron Paul is, not following American Politics and all :/ Usually I report them and they get logged out...hopefully SOE lets the Wardens use their silence powers on them :P |
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12/29/07 5:26:19 AM#51
Lol that must be the most stupid idea ever |
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12/29/07 5:59:27 AM#52
The smartest thing blizzard can do is pull the plug on the server, so they don't appear to be supporting any particular contestant. They can claim that the new players loging in 'crashed' the server If you don't like it, don't play it. |
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Laibeus_Lord
Novice Member
Joined: 9/09/03
"If this is not the end of oblivion, then I shall live my life as if it were to end this very day." |
12/29/07 6:02:52 AM#53
ROFLOL!! Can't wait... Especially sociologists... and critics... and bloggers... and the people who has nothing to say but be anti-everything for-the-fun-of-being-anti... ROFLOL! |
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12/29/07 6:11:39 AM#54
All two of them that even know who this guy is are setting a precedent for us all to go into the games we play and ruin it with real life BS... But hey, it is World of Warcraft afterall... Maybe my Tauren Moogana will run for office and people can come march for me!
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming! |
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12/29/07 7:25:17 AM#55
Yeah i must agree with the general sentiment - keep the rotten real world out of my lovely fantasy land. I play mmogs to ESCAPE the rat bastard religious, political, and corporate zealots who hammer me with their degenerate propaganda all day long. |
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12/29/07 11:46:18 AM#56
Originally posted by Obraik For the love of... do you even think about what you type? How dare people express there politcal views in a neutral forum! Report! Ban! Suicide Bomb! The fact is people have a right to be heard, no matter what you may think of their opinions. That's called progression. Moving society forward by fostering debates laced with candor. I know you, SOE, and the rest would like nothing better than to silence the teaming masses but fortunately your hate mongering agenda isn't shared by the leaders of the free world, however backward their other policies may be. You might try taking an interest in the world around you instead of squatting on Chilastra reporting spam and watching tumbleweeds. |
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12/29/07 1:16:05 PM#57
Keep your politics out of my game, jackasses! What a bunch of tool-sacks. I don't care what your political affiliation is, I think it's annoying as all get-out when some pushy, self-rightious political lackies try to push their idiotic beliefs inside a GAME world, especially one that I might be in. I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play. |
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12/29/07 1:22:18 PM#58
Originally posted by AtomicDogYou're an idiot. Inside of a game world is not an open forum. It's whoely owned by the game developer and not a forum for political or commercial agendas (which in this day and age, is the same thing). Putting up websites, blogs, forums is all fine and dandy, but when a political group INVADES a company's game world to push their idiologies, that's overstepping their bounds. Now, if Blizzard or Sony allowed in-game advertising, then it might be different, as long as the political group or company paid for the space to push their crap. However, neither company has in-game advertising, so it is not allowed. Try an separate public forums with privately owned game worlds and you may see what all the uproar is about. I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play. |
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12/29/07 1:28:22 PM#59
blizzard policy is very clear on this one.
ANY group of players meeting in an area in numbers that disrupt others gameplay can result in measures from suspension, and could lead to the loss of your account.
all thats required is a good amount of lag before blizz sends 10 or so gm's to insta kill and teleport poeple to other zones while suspending their accounts. wow is a business and their line will be, on any server, that politcal campaigning has no place in the high fantasy setting of azeroth. Advertising is also considered a bannable offense, be it for gold, or a candidate.
if you value your account i would highly suggest that you do not take part in any behavior that you know in fact, violates blizzard policy. unlike other games, blizzard has at least 200 or so gm's on hand at all times just for north america. they are completely equipped to enforce policy on that many people and will do so without having to think twice about it. i hope this post helps a few people. |
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12/29/07 1:37:55 PM#60
Blizzard will allow it because it is free publicity for the game not just for Ron Paul but personally I believe that political agendas should not be present in games. Games are for people to tear away from real life for awhile and enjoy some entertainment, nothing more. Blizzard will be eating this up and loving it when they get their game mentioned on the news. It's just another publicity stunt in my opinion. |
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