Final Fantasy XI

This guide was the deciding point of not wanting to enter this game, i was actually very excited to start playing untili  realized the beastmaster, which i am normally in most games, is a very unloved class :( i guess im off to find the next best thing :(

Originally posted by Pepsipwnzgod

This guide was the deciding point of not wanting to enter this game, i was actually very excited to start playing untili  realized the beastmaster, which i am normally in most games, is a very unloved class :( i guess im off to find the next best thing :(

You are showing similar symptoms to someone who had gotten out of a time sinking MMO in search for fresh adventures, but only to find nothing satisfying within following months.

If this is somewhat correct, please read on!

Time sinking MMOs usually have much to offer - those that don't are just bad games. A portion of time sinking MMO transferees get themselves caught in a search for the near impossible, a less time consuming MMO offering experiences never before felt. Over time, many individuals lose mental energy in their search effort, increasing risk of losing MMO interest.

In short, I suspect that you are suffering from early MMOBS (you can use Burn-out Syndrome as an alternative for the last two initials). After looking at your signature:

Maybe the best cure is to take at least 6 months off of MMOs. After Assassin's Creed, you should continue to play some non-MMO games that you may have wanted to try but didn't due to previous time sink. I am suggesting this because I think Aion is a nice choice among announced upcoming MMOs in the search for your "next best thing", but I fear that your future experience in Aion may be compromised due to advanced MMOBS. Meanwhile, stay on the look-out for other future MMOs; who knows, maybe something BIG will be announced really soon!

It's so long,But I like this game!

Originally posted by Pepsipwnzgod

This guide was the deciding point of not wanting to enter this game, i was actually very excited to start playing untili  realized the beastmaster, which i am normally in most games, is a very unloved class :( i guess im off to find the next best thing :(

I like a lot of jobs, but beast is by far my favorite.

As far as bard sj, my bard and rdm are both 75.  I sub whm for brd.  Not for healing, though I help out when I can, but for the status cures.  Paralyna, silena, and erase can be incredibly useful.   I did sub rdm a few times when we fought mobs that put a lot of buffs up for the extra dispel ability due to the long recast on finale, but it did not seem worth it.   I never say never to anything though.   One thing about final fantasy, if you know your job and how to work well with a team, anything can work.  And trying new things with friends is a lot of fun.  :) 

Also, Drg/Rdm is an amazing combo.   A talented player can do an awful lot with it.  

Take it with a grain of salt when I say this, you're very inexperienced when it comes to job combinations in FFXI.

i would have to say you are missing some minor points along with some major (lolpup not being negative in both categories is laughable). over all it is fairly close. one major thing you need to add it /sam is hands down the best sub for any 2h weapon user. THF is only usable for TH and TH4 (using both the +1 pieces) is the only THF worth having for HNMs, you are going to hit it then leave the PT b/c it is a very ineffective DPS. RNG fell out of its prime a long time ago and their are much better options now. PLDs subbing /war is blood tanking and people dont do that outside exp PTs, it is all /nin now.

In all it looks like you are trying to make every job good but that is just not the case. Some rise above others (Like sam Vs other DD on HNMs) and other jobs are just in the gutter (PUP and to some extent BST).

The best supjob for Dragoon is samurai because you easy get TP and Dragoon are a TP based damage dealer class. Please write in your Post  

Originally posted by lilfoo

i would have to say you are missing some minor points along with some major (lolpup not being negative in both categories is laughable). over all it is fairly close. one major thing you need to add it /sam is hands down the best sub for any 2h weapon user. THF is only usable for TH and TH4 (using both the +1 pieces) is the only THF worth having for HNMs, you are going to hit it then leave the PT b/c it is a very ineffective DPS. RNG fell out of its prime a long time ago and their are much better options now. PLDs subbing /war is blood tanking and people dont do that outside exp PTs, it is all /nin now.

 

In all it looks like you are trying to make every job good but that is just not the case. Some rise above others (Like sam Vs other DD on HNMs) and other jobs are just in the gutter (PUP and to some extent BST).

BST...is a solo/duo job....how is that in the gutter...lol you can solo almost anything and although xp parties might not benefit you the most, you are needed in some BCNMs as well as hunting NMs.

I agree with the samurai sub for any 2H weapon user.  With all the adjustments added to samurai over the years has greatly improved it.

THFs can help with hate control, when you have crappy tanks.  Just because people might play some jobs badly.  A thf sub is fine for wars or rng without advanced jobs, and some like to do the extra damage with SA. I AGREE that its not a good job, but how are people suppose to level thf for TH4 if you want them to leave the party for DPS....

Ranger is still capable of dealing heavy damage as long as you are geared correctly. I AGREE it did fall out of its prime when it use to rival BLM for damage in mid - levels.  However it is still capable of dealing heavy damage.

What he wrote about was the most likely subjobs, PLD/WAR is used for xp parties, but /nin and /whm are also used, it all depends on what you are doing.

In the end every job is equal you just have to put them in the correct situation. Sure a BST wont deal heavy damage in xp parties, but when you need help gettin astrals in BCNM goodluck w/o beasts. In most aspects i do agree, just saying only a few jobs are acceptable compared to your standards is silly.

I think he did a good job writing this guide and no offense but after a while most people playing the game will find out how to play the jobs on their own and will have no need for the guide.  But it is a good starting guide to mid game.

I used to play FF3 FF5 FF7 FF8.  was the job from FFXI and FF onlone are the same? i haven/t tried FF online yet.