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  Thecensored

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Joined: 11/24/07
Posts: 82

12/23/07 12:20:08 AM#21

Originally posted by truenorthbg

I stopped reading when you said I am on the SOE is evil bandwagon.

 

I have, at the time of writing, a station pass (30 bucks) plus another account (15 bucks).

 

SOE is the only publisher of games that I give money to... 45.00 bucks a month.

We noticed...

You come rushing in to save the day everytime SOE is mentioned in a negative way. You remind me of this ugly dude that is "friends" with this hot chick at work and always seems to show up to hang out when we are alone. Can I say Captain Save-a-ho?

  Shifty360

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Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 649

12/23/07 12:22:18 AM#22
Originally posted by ianubisi

I'd like to boycott dumb topics, but unfortunately I've posted here.

Go take a nap. You'll feel better when you wake up.

  truenorthbg

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>Vote Ron Paul 08<

 
12/23/07 12:28:57 AM#23

Originally posted by Thecensored

 

We noticed...

 

You come rushing in to save the day everytime SOE is mentioned in a negative way. You remind me of this ugly dude that is "friends" with this hot chick at work and always seems to show up to hang out when we are alone. Can I say Captain Save-a-ho?

One guy says:  I am on an SOE is evil bandwagon.

 

Another guy says:  You come rushing to save SOE when something negative is said.

 

I am doing something right.

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  severius

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12/23/07 12:32:21 AM#24

I have been boycotting SOE for a couple years now lol.  Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.

  truenorthbg

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>Vote Ron Paul 08<

 
12/23/07 12:35:20 AM#25

Originally posted by severius

I have been boycotting SOE for a couple years now lol.  Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.

Why?  What is your gripe with SOE, since we are on the subject?

Do tell.

 

[As an aside, I have notice a lot of missing reasoning.  Real-life is not an A, B, C, or D for all of the above answer.  You must explain, support, defend, and argue for your reasoning.  Statements in business, government, even in public Universities will require, "I am boycotting SOE because ...."]

 

We need more reasoning, more explanations, less hide-the-ball around here.

 

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  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
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I like space combat. Not space grinding, accounting and taxi service.

12/23/07 4:14:56 AM#26

Forgot to add to the list: SOE destroying Cosmic Rift, Infantry and Tanarus.

As for boycotting SOE? I have been all my life. I've always been leeching off them. lol =P

  Ravkeen

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Joined: 1/15/07
Posts: 311

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12/23/07 4:24:05 AM#27

Originally posted by truenorthbg

SOE has a bad record

  • Destroying Everquest with forced-raiding
  • Destroying SWG
  • Now allowing gold sellers
  • Introducing a card game in which you can buy, for real money, cards
  • Now selling-out to India

 

Is now the time to boycott SOE?


My theory:  The card game thing and allowing gold sellers was an attempt to raise revenue to avoid selling-off to India.  Selling to India can be good.  Can be bad.  That is not the question.


I should have included Vanguard as a strong title.  And I will say this:  SWG is simply the most immersive, creative, innovative and overall brilliant MMORPG I have ever played.  Believe it or not.  So, SOE has more strong titles than EQ 2.

 

Why would you boycott a game because they see themselves making more money if they allow gold sellers. Selling to India they are spread their game to a more world wide market. The card game more money in there pockets. Key phrase money talks in this world BS walks. 

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  User Deleted
12/23/07 4:32:06 AM#28

Originally posted by truenorthbg

 

Originally posted by severius

I have been boycotting SOE for a couple years now lol.  Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.

Why?  What is your gripe with SOE, since we are on the subject?

 

Do tell.

 

[As an aside, I have notice a lot of missing reasoning.  Real-life is not an A, B, C, or D for all of the above answer.  You must explain, support, defend, and argue for your reasoning.  Statements in business, government, even in public Universities will require, "I am boycotting SOE because ...."]

 

We need more reasoning, more explanations, less hide-the-ball around here.

 


How do you figure that?

First response would be to take a college "Logic" course.  Then tell me how much reason is actually shown in a logical arguement.

Beyond that game play is subjective thus it would be hard to use reasoning.  You can't make an objective statement about a subjective topic.

and lastly.... the person stated they have been boycotting SOE for a couple years.

I suppose you were just being sarcastic and wanted them to spell out the fact... that they quit playing SOE games when the CU came out in SWG..

There really isn't any reason to Boycott SOE.  If they make a game you enjoy... then you'd most likely play it.  If they don't offer anything you'd enjoy.. then why would you pay for it?

They totally screwed up SWG (in my opinion).  Yet if they released a game I actually enjoyed.. I'd play it.

I mean it seems pretty simple to me in the end.  Why would you pay for anything you don't personally enjoy and why would you not play something you do enjoy because it says SOE on it... Beyond that asking people to universally Boycott a company... would pretty much require them all to have your point of view.

  Cryptor

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Posts: 361

12/23/07 4:37:48 AM#29

 

Most people who played a SOE game in the past allready do ( boycott SOE ).

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  Anti-Fanboi

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Joined: 1/05/07
Posts: 190

12/23/07 6:27:26 AM#30


Originally posted by truenorthbg
I stopped reading when you said I am on the SOE is evil bandwagon.

I have, at the time of writing, a station pass (30 bucks) plus another account (15 bucks).

SOE is the only publisher of games that I give money to... 45.00 bucks a month.


Funny thing is I myself stop reading your OP when you mentioned boycott.

  Samuraisword

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Joined: 2/15/06
Posts: 2120

Gamers who use RMT are like athletes who use steroids

12/23/07 7:28:49 AM#31

Where have you been? Of course they should be boycotted. I have been boycotting them since they ruined classic EQ. Besides screwing players left and right on almost every game they control, they now want to make RMT transactions standard practice in MMOGs and completely destroy the genre.

  goneglockin

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12/23/07 7:32:01 AM#32

I have been boycotting SoE for a while now.  It's easy because I don't want to play any of their shitty games anyway.  That's their whole scam.  We'll give you half a dozen shitty games we run on the bare minimum for the low low price of 25 dollars a month!  Woo hoo!

 

Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  candygirl6

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 416

12/23/07 7:35:40 AM#33
Originally posted by goneglockin

I have been boycotting SoE for a while now.  It's easy because I don't want to play any of their shitty games anyway.

lol =/

  Furrbawl

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Joined: 12/02/05
Posts: 95

No matter where you go, there you are.

12/23/07 7:37:44 AM#34

They should be boycotted just for how they ruined a great IP Star Wars Galaxy.

All their other crao is just icing on the cake.

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  Xenduli

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Joined: 3/25/06
Posts: 660

12/23/07 8:44:59 AM#35

If anyone doesn't know how Vanguard's key assets were "acquired", then they should do some research [ don't let me or anyone else mislead you find out for yourself ] and THEN come back here and tell everyone why they *shouldn't* be boycotted.

No annoying animated GIF here!

  User Deleted
12/23/07 9:41:19 AM#36

The only thing that could possibly be interesting would be a trial of vanguard since I have no intention of paying for junk until I know it's not.  plus they need to prove it's not an EQ grind fest and actually a sandbox.

  candygirl6

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 416

12/23/07 9:49:18 AM#37

Originally posted by paulscott

The only thing that could possibly be interesting would be a trial of vanguard since I have no intention of paying for junk until I know it's not.  plus they need to prove it's not an EQ grind fest and actually a sandbox.


SOE fired almost everyone from the Sigil team on the spot when they took over Vanguard in one day.

I'm not a fan of Sigil, some aspects of Vanguard are good, but other sucked.

But now that SOE took over Vanguard? Oh my.

  Krileon

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Joined: 8/07/07
Posts: 320

12/23/07 10:04:45 AM#38

Do you people seriously spend the majority of your day to find reasons to {CENSORED} about SOE?

Do you people even play any SOE games... seriously.

I've played VG and now playing EQ2 again. SOE has done an outstanding job. I'd be playing VG, but my GFs horrid computer can't run it.. so we are playing EQ2 instead. Both VERY fun to play. I can't speak for the other games, because they arn't my style. I've played them and enjoyed them in the past.. probably would be the same now.

The India crap was a rumor and you're a complete moron to buy into something like that.. that's just absurdly dumb as hell.

What's wrong with LON? You don't HAVE to buy cards. The option to buy cards is available for those that don't have an EQ1/EQ2 account.. this allows them to still enjoy the game. I find it VERY fun, but that's just me.. I've only bought 1 starter pack.. the rest I bought in-game for cheap as dirt. So if you're buying them with RL money then smack your self for being dumb like I did.

You people keep crying about SE servers.. they're trying to do something other companies don't have the balls to do. They're literally trying to please everyone. Some people like to buy items.. what's wrong with that? Just because you're jealous of the extra financial wealth doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to do what brings them joy in a game. You people act like SOE is turning every server into an SE.. they arn't.. in the beginning they was going to, but the players voices reached them and they decided to just make SE servers.. they tried something new.. the players spoke out.. SOE listened.. WTF IS THE PROBLEM?.. besides you being a whiny {CENSORED}

Grow the {CENSORED} up people.. just because SOE isn't conforming to all your nitpick needs doesn't mean there is anything wrong.. there games are fun and if you don't enjoy them.. DON'T PLAY THEM!

Forced EQ2 raiding? WHAT? -ROFWAFFLES- I'm a necromancer and solo/duo 100% of the time.. you don't need to raid unless you want to raid.. you don't need raid gear to enjoy the game or to play it completely.. player skill comes into play A LOT in this game.. 1 wrong move on certain classes will cost you a repair bill. Raiding certainly isn't forced.. 4yr account.. 3.2yrs of it active.. i've raided twice.. i've done group instances several times, but i'm talking full blown raids. i've only done twice. Far from forced.

[ Played ] 2Moons, Anarchy Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, Everquest, Everquest II, Guild Wars, HellGate: London, Lord of the Rings Online, Rappelz, RF Online, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, World of Warcraft, Last Chaos

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  Elikal

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Posts: 6153

12/23/07 10:26:47 AM#39

Well said, Krileon.

Dont you guyz have something serious to fight for, like starving children, war of terror or iliterate American Politcians? Geez.

As long as I have fun in a game, I couldnt care less what they do in their company or if other players buy entire KINGDOMS for gold or whatever. If everyone would just mind his own friggin buisiness, but NO all must play judge and jury in one person and start witchhunts on trivia. Pathetic.

  zensaber

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Joined: 1/18/04
Posts: 805

12/23/07 10:28:35 AM#40

Forced raiding? Everquest is a RAID game. Plus i like everquest 1,2 and vanguard to much to hate them

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