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Tabula Rasa

Tabula Rasa 

General Discussion  » Any kind of Mouse Smoothing in this game?

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  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 9:51:55 AM#1

Just played for the first time with a 3 day trial.  The one thing I noticed is that when I aim at a creature and move the mouse cursor slower, it jumps.  It isn't smooth.  Makes it difficult to aim at creature that are at long distances.  Is there anything I can do to make this better?

  kjfett

Novice Member

Joined: 8/16/05
Posts: 235

12/18/07 10:03:36 AM#2

Sounds like graphicas lag.  I don't have any problems with my mouse movements unless my FPS gets too low.  When in game, hit F4 to bring up the FPS monitor and run with it a while in combat....you don't want to see that number drop below 30FPS and if it does.....lower your settings a little. 

  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 10:15:17 AM#3

Nope.. I get 90 FPS in the training area.

Nothing seems to lag.  It's just that the mouse movements are not smooth movements. 

 

The mouse moves consistently the same way. 

  cmgangrel

Novice Member

Joined: 11/14/07
Posts: 143

12/18/07 11:03:45 AM#4

Try playing with the mouse sensitivity a little bit.

Then again i have to admit that i dont suffer from this problem (or i just dont notice it after 7 months of playing)

  Stellos

Novice Member

Joined: 9/15/06
Posts: 1483

If you're going to stick it out there, don't be afraid if you get it cut off.

12/18/07 11:40:31 AM#5

I experience the same problem.  I feel the people that claim "no prob" are in denial.  The game doens't run smooth even with high-end machines and customizable settings.  You are not alone, but there are a lot of fanbois that like to defend their games here.  I think TB is a decent game, but I'm not going to lie and say it's something it's not.

  AcePylut

Novice Member

Joined: 6/20/07
Posts: 19

12/18/07 12:03:43 PM#6

Are the rollers on your mouse dirty?  Maybe all you need to do is clean the mouseball and associated rollers.

 

Plz disregard if you have an optical.

  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 12:05:31 PM#7

The game is running pretty smooth.  

By mouse smoothing I mean mouse precision maybe.   Here is how I do it.  If you are in windows.. move your cursor very slowly.  Notice how it responds and moves the whole time.  Now do that in game.  It just doesn't respond the same way.  I doesn't always move.  If you move the mouse fast it is fine. 

 

Edit: I would deserve to be shot if I was using a ball mouse.

  kjfett

Novice Member

Joined: 8/16/05
Posts: 235

12/18/07 12:12:46 PM#8
Originally posted by Stellos

I experience the same problem.  I feel the people that claim "no prob" are in denial.  The game doens't run smooth even with high-end machines and customizable settings.  You are not alone, but there are a lot of fanbois that like to defend their games here.  I think TB is a decent game, but I'm not going to lie and say it's something it's not.


Denial my arse.  I love using a rifle, finding a good ranged spot to crouch behind and sniping mobs at 60+m  away.  The mouse goes to were I say and get's the sticky lock.  This is just not an issue for me and I know when it is as I have played FPSs that had the problem.  Furthermore, no one claimed he was alone in what he was facing and others offered up  solutions...you however managed to troll, add nothing to the thread and insult people.   

  Micromegas

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 15

12/18/07 1:32:52 PM#9
I've got the same problem with the "jerky" mouse. Not smooth at all. I tried playing with mouse sensitivity, but that didn't alleviate the problem. Any fix?
  Shoal

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/30/04
Posts: 1163

12/18/07 1:36:57 PM#10

All might want to post their Mouse and Settings specs.

There is a huge difference between the performance of a Sneaky-Peat's $10 ball mouse in software mode on the shiny desktop, and a Logitech G5 running in Hardware mode on an optical no-slip pad.

More info would help.

  Fuhyo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/28/06
Posts: 66

12/18/07 1:59:08 PM#11

Originally posted by Stellos

I experience the same problem.  I feel the people that claim "no prob" are in denial.  The game doens't run smooth even with high-end machines and customizable settings.  You are not alone, but there are a lot of fanbois that like to defend their games here.  I think TB is a decent game, but I'm not going to lie and say it's something it's not.

No denial here.  I am not experiencing the troubles the OP has described.  I'm using a MS Habu laser mouse and it's as smooth as silk in game.  The only adjustment I had to do was lower the sensativity just a tad.

Fuhyo Subotai

  Shoal

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/30/04
Posts: 1163

12/18/07 2:04:23 PM#12

Originally posted by Fuhyo

 

Originally posted by Stellos

I experience the same problem.  I feel the people that claim "no prob" are in denial.  The game doens't run smooth even with high-end machines and customizable settings.  You are not alone, but there are a lot of fanbois that like to defend their games here.  I think TB is a decent game, but I'm not going to lie and say it's something it's not.

No denial here.  I am not experiencing the troubles the OP has described.  I'm using a MS Habu laser mouse and it's as smooth as silk in game.  The only adjustment I had to do was lower the sensativity just a tad.

 

Fuhyo Subotai


Exactly my point.   The Habu is a top-of-the-line, $70 msrp gaming mouse.

What does the OP have?  That is the question.  And all the other folks having cursor problems.  Also, what are they using for drivers?  The default MS ones?  Blech.

  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 3:05:29 PM#13

I am using a cheap logitech optical mouse.   I have a new Microsoft one that I haven't hooked up yet.  Though, it is a cheapy as well.   Like I said before, I don't have any problems with any other games.  And yes, I didn't download drivers for this mouse.. just using the MS one.  I will take a look to see if there is a driver for it.   But, that is about as far as I would go.   I don't see a need to buy a better mouse for a 3 day trial.   Also, I have played the game alot more now.  I am getting used to it.   It really only happens if you move the mouse very slowly.   Basically, it only affects aiming at a good distance.   But, compared to a FPS the mouse movement is sub par imo.  BTW the game is running great on the HP Blackbird I am using. 

  Shoal

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/30/04
Posts: 1163

12/18/07 3:13:18 PM#14

Innexpensive optical mice often have a hard time tracking on certain surfaces.  And the problem increases over shorter motions.  There is less intervening geometry for it to track, so the cursor 'jumps'.

You might try finding a piece of paper with a recuring, small, pattern on it and use it for a makeshift mousepad just to see if it helps.

I have a MS Mouse that used to go nuts when I tried to use it direclty on my 'woodgrain' desktop.  Behaved just as you are describing.  Fine over a long sweep, but would have a very hard time over small motions.

Bottom line, though, a better mouse will provide better operation.  I can recommend the G5 (NOT the G9; pos).

Good Luck

  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 3:17:40 PM#15

Thanks, but like I said before.  This is the only game that I have had any problems with.  So, that tells me right there it isn't the mouse. 

  Micromegas

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 15

12/18/07 4:02:24 PM#16
This is the only game I'm having jerky mouse issues with as well. Rest are smooth as silk.
  kjfett

Novice Member

Joined: 8/16/05
Posts: 235

12/18/07 6:53:41 PM#17

Originally posted by ecklund11

Thanks, but like I said before.  This is the only game that I have had any problems with.  So, that tells me right there it isn't the mouse. 

 

There are video cards that work great with all those other games, but fail to run TR.  If you aren't willing to try to find a fix and instead just insist its the game, well, there really isn't any point in this thread is there?   You are set on it being the game's fault, that you shouldn't have to upgrade the el'cheapo mouse and that is that.  Great.  Sorry you didn't enjoy the game and didn't want to put the effort into making it work for you.

  Fuhyo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/28/06
Posts: 66

12/18/07 8:08:48 PM#18

Originally posted by ecklund11

Thanks, but like I said before.  This is the only game that I have had any problems with.  So, that tells me right there it isn't the mouse. 


Sounds more like the mouse with a low DPI.  For a test, I lowered my Habu to 300 DPI and had the same trouble as you described.  Bumped it up to 600 DPI and it was better.  Bumped it again to 1000 DPI and absolutely no troubles but I had to increase the sensativity just a tad.  Bumped it up to 2000 DPI and it's smooth as silk.

Fuhyo Subotai

  ecklund11

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 10

 
12/18/07 8:55:24 PM#19

I am trying to find a fix...but I am not 100% convinced that the only thing I can do is buy a new mouse.  If it comes down to that, that no I probably won't be running out to buy a mouse.   

What do you mean about a video card running games great but not TR?  The game does run great on my system.  Could you explain?  Try to sound like an adult in your reply please.  Not sure why you are so negative towards me all of a sudden.   There are a lot of assumptions in your last post.  Let's keep it somewhat "professional" people.

At any rate, I have some things to try tomorrow.  Will try to keep you posted.

 

Edit: Interesting test fuhyo.  How come there is such a big difference in TR then in other games?    

  User Deleted
12/18/07 10:10:12 PM#20

I had some severe mouse lag right after release.   I wrote NCsoft and they responded back with

  1. download the latest mouse drivers for your specific mouse
  2. Completely Uninstall all mouse drivers.
  3. reboot
  4. on relog, install the latest mouse drivers you downloaded

I did this, even though I had no newer mouse drivers.. they were the same.  For some reason it fixed my mouse lag by just removing and re-installing the mouse drivers.

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