General Discussion

Originally posted by Dauthix

 

 

I agree with both of you. 

Ron Paul is not going to make any radical, sweeping changes without the consent of Congress. 

Interesting to note that Bush and Clinton have done exactly that with Executive Orders. Our president can implement martial law at the drop of a hat if he so decided...he is the decider. 

Ron Paul would abolish all unconstitutional EOs....but like some other people have said RP is a dictator...what a load of BS.

Originally posted by Korusus

 

It depends on the state.  Some states only allow party members to vote in the primaries, some will only let you vote in one primary or the other, etc.  Iowa for one is a caucus and not a primary.

 

Again, money doesn't win a primary.  It requires votes to win a primary, and those votes have to be enough to win a simple majority of the delegates. 

The election isn't a "long way off" for Ron Paul.  He either completely wins the primaries in the next couple of months or he's out the game (assuming he keeps his word not to run as an independent).  You see a lot of support in NH...do you see enough to win the primary?

Ron Paul can't dictate to Congress what bills they can or cannot pass.  And with little support he may be known as the President whose veto gets overturned more than any other in history .

My point is that the Executive and the Legislative branch work hand in hand.  And I don't see too many serious Congressional candidates running with Ron Paul's beliefs. 

And if Ron Paul does win the Republican nomination, what do you think the traditional Republican party is going to do?  Do you honestly think they're just going to stand by and let their party be usurped?  Do you think they're going to suddenly support him and his ideals?

Of course not. 

That would be the biggest advantage and benefit of Ron Paul running and winning the Republican nomination.  It could split the Republican party and create a viable third party.  Maybe.

What evidence have you seen that Ron Paul doesn't have enough votes to win? That's all i'm asking. Polls and money don't count for you...so what does? Evidence...I need evidence. I know the election isn't a long way off, but my point was a lot of stupid people think that and so Ron Paul does have a shot because RP supporters aren't stupid. I see you don't like Ron Paul and so you want to make people not vote for him or something. You seem to enjoy the thought of unconstitutional bills getting through instead of vetoed. I guess you agree with the Constitution only when it suits you?

The great thing is Ron Paul would have a great platform to teach people the Constitution, history, and domestic and world affairs.

There are ways Ron Paul could get shit done. Ever heard of executive orders? Everyone on here is BSing about Ron Paul being a dictator (even though he is the complete opposite), but it's all the other presidents who abused executive orders that are dictators.

I think people underestimate the soft power of the Presidency and the opportunities a Ron Paul administration would bring to the USA.

1. End of Iraq War & Traditional USA Foreign Policy  = Peace
2. Reduction of Taxes and Wasteful Spending = Prosperity
3. Repel of the Patriotic Act to Work Within Const. Boundaries = Privacy

The question this election is do we want Peace, Prosperity, and Privacy or do we want to elect another Political Party Politician?  The choice is literally yours, assuming you vote.

Originally posted byPaul administration would bring to the USA.

 

 

 

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The leading candidates are proposing more war (Guiliani) and more taxes (Clinton).  Guiliani is proposing more government and more inflation taxes (the Iraq War requires that we keep selling USA government bonds, paid for by YOUR tax dollars and reduction of YOUR USA dollar's value; that is why things are more expensive today such as energy, education, health care, etc.

 

 

 

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The status quo seems to be quite popular

He'll drop out at some point  during the primaries.

This Paul fixation will pass.

Ron Paul = Libertarian = Free trader.

Ron Paul wants to drop US Tariffs to zero regardless of what other countries do.  If you think job destroying NAFTA or Chinese trade is bad now, wait until you get a globalist who is worse then Bush.

Also, Libertarians love open-borders, another souce of cheap foreign labor they can exploit for a buck.

Originally posted by Netzoko

Yes, his message is great, but he is completely vague on how he will accomplish such revolutionary actions.

- He said he wanted to remove a lot of the current government (favoring limited, small gov). However, he doesn't ever say how... Being the president doesn't allow you to totally change the country how you want it, it's not a dictatorship. How will it go over with everyone else besides his cabinet when he tries to fire millions of government workers and shut down agencies which were very expensive to set up?

The only thing a Democrat Congress and Libertarian President will ever accomplish is legalizing weed.

Originally posted by Nerf09

Ron Paul = Libertarian = Free trader.

Ron Paul wants to drop US Tariffs to zero regardless of what other countries do.  If you think job destroying NAFTA or Chinese trade is bad now, wait until you get a globalist who is worse then Bush.

Also, Libertarians love open-borders, another souce of cheap foreign labor they can exploit for a buck.

Very bad information.  Perhaps innocent misrepresentation, but I should clarify (correct) your comments in case some one actually reads them.

1. Ron Paul Supports a Secure Border*
2. Ron Paul is in Favor of Trade Agreements that are in the USA's best interests [the reason why your dad (or you) cannot find a middle-class job anymore is because they are being exported.  It is highly profitable for, say, as an accountant to have some one in India do it for 9.00 an hour as opposed to 18.50+ an hour here.
3. Yes.  Ron Paul is a Free-Trader, just as the Founders of the USA were.  Free trade keeps nations 1) free and 2) prosperous.

*Ron Paul opposes the North American Union and the construction of a superhighway that links Canada, USA, and Mexico that would be under the auspices of a NAU.  He supports a strong US Dollar, and is a Champion for the U.S. Const., which is a document that secures your rights to life, freedom of expression, due process, personal firearm possession, privacy, among many others.

Ron Paul's Official Position:

1. Physically secure our borders and coastlines. www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/
2. So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation. www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/american-independence-and-sovereignty/
3. We must withdraw from any organizations and trade deals that infringe upon the freedom and independence of the United States of America. www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/american-independence-and-sovereignty/