Huh?  What PR?  All our PR has talked about how happy we are to be working with Platform Publishing.  If you mean answering forum posts, well, I answer the posts that get made.  And the people who don't like Sony tend to be very vocal.  Personally I'd rather talk about the game.  

This is hilarious.   A perfect flash back of Vanguard.   I know that is not Brad, and Vanguard was a different game, etc. etc.

But you have to admit that its following the same path (for lack of a better word).

All the SoE haters flaming SOE.  Refusing to buy the game.  Warning potential players about SoE...

Then the game developers reassuring that SoE is ONLY publishing, and will NEVER have any influence on the developement of the game.   The Fanbois jumping in defending thier game.  Flame wars all over the place.. 

You have to admit.  Its a flashback with a different game name.   I still wonder why anyone would want to be associated with SoE at all these days.   Just having SoE attatched to the game is going to cost a company not only thier reputation to a certain degree, but also less subscribers to thier game.   SoE must have one hell of a package deal.

Originally posted by RickSaada

Originally posted by altairzq

 

Originally posted by zymurgeist

PotBS shares one thing with Vanguard. Triumph or failure it won't be Sony's doing it will be the people who actually made the game.

What do you think they will do if in a meeting a representant of SOE says, for instance "We do think that the combat system is a bit too complex and that it could retract people from buying the game".

 

With a kind smile and sugar on top.

Clear enough I think.

I'll tell them to go to hell.  Isildur won't be nearly as polite.

This guy Rick Saada is awesome.   First he'll tell them to go to hell.  I like him all ready - lots!  ^_^    Second, he has the courage to come on these forums and other forums(which is real gutsy) and just tells players like it is...he doesn't have anything to hide or mislead us with...he just tells us upfront.   Third, I dislike SOE's management but you can't deny some of the funnest game to ever hit the market were from Sony...Planetside, SWG pre-NGE and Vanguard.   SOE is doing us all a big favor by distributing Rick's awesome game to the masses.   I don't blame him for going with Sony on this one.   I also think Rick knows not to sell us out to Sony the way Brad did.   I personally think Rick and his crew over at Flying Labs have put their heart and soul into this game(God it shows...they really did put a lot of attention into details and that takes people dedicated and passionate to bringing us a fun and exciting game!) and if any of you doubt Ricks commitment to this game...then why is he here on these boards and other boards answering our queries?  Not many developers take the time to do that(unless they are in trouble.

These guys have been working on this for years...I think I heard about this back in the Winter of 2001 as just a rumor and I was like OMG that would be awesome a Pirate absed MMORPG.   So I started looking for any information and then I found something in 2002 and have been following ever since.   I dunno if a lot of you realize that avatars were not even going to be an initial part of the game at release.   Rick and them listened to us players over on their forums and they finally agreed and now we have not only ships but avatars for our Pirates, Privateers and Naval Officers and such.   Tell me that isn't the coolest thing.   They listened...postponed the game and look at it now! 

I cannot say much more NDA and all...but PotBS is first and foremost a fun - extremely fun game!  I can't stress that enough...it is FUN!  Thank you Rick and the rest of the Flying Labs people!  I look forward to playing PotBS and look forward to PotBS as it matures - you've come a long way since 2002~!  A long way!

Originally posted by RickSaada

Huh?  What PR?  All our PR has talked about how happy we are to be working with Platform Publishing.  If you mean answering forum posts, well, I answer the posts that get made.  And the people who don't like Sony tend to be very vocal.  Personally I'd rather talk about the game.  

By PR I meant all the distance you've been trying to put between yourself and soe, like your press release that announced your association with soe.  I understand your decision to go with soe, and really, its not that big of a deal for me because theres lots of games out there for me to play.  Just don't dismiss those with legitimate complaints with how soe has done business with them as "Haters".  Behind all the rhetoric, theres real substance to whats being said.  I don't expect you to say anything negative towards soe, even though they blatantly pulled the old bait and switch with their customers.  When you deal with people with shady business practices then expect take some heat for it.  Soe will never get another dollar from me, and even if your game can cure cancer and make peace in the middle east, I still hope it fails or (preferably) you switch publishers.

BTW, theres a lot more people that you think that will avoid your game because of soe.  Keep telling yourself its less than 5000 if it makes you feel better.

Originally posted by Ginaz

 

Originally posted by RickSaada

Huh?  What PR?  All our PR has talked about how happy we are to be working with Platform Publishing.  If you mean answering forum posts, well, I answer the posts that get made.  And the people who don't like Sony tend to be very vocal.  Personally I'd rather talk about the game.  

 

I still hope it fails ...

 

"and even if your game can cure cancer and make peace in the middle east, I still hope it fails or (preferably) you switch publishers."

That's is awsome. Hey, donkey, do me a favor and just look at that tripe you typed. Cause we don't want anyone getting "cancer" do we?

My first of the week.

Enjoy, tool.

Ah..another sony picked up game.. Sony needs to jump ship and stop buying games. Sorry smedly...we just dont like you and your company. Btw this game has an audience. I just dont see how its going to pull it off with sony behind the helm. 

Fun how most of the rambling soe haters allways only have a few posts. Guess we have some insane people outthere creating new accounts just to spew their nonsense... Then again looking at the swg forums makes me loose all faith in humanity.

yeah all this hate because of publisher is getting kinda out of hand in my eyes, EA sucks SoE sucks i´d guess Ubisoft and Codemasters will suck soon as well. I mean it´s the people´s choice to ruin their fun for themselves honestly and if u guys continue to blame every publisher in existence you will run out of games to play rather quickly since the market for games is getting harder and small publishers have a harder time then ever before, especially if people continue to want everything perfect but for free nonetheless ;).

@Topic PotBS is a fun game to which i´m looking forward to play and ppl should learn that the Developer always has a say in what happens in the game so blaming the publisher only is just .... wrong.

And yes in my opinion Sigil Games miscalculated a lot and couldn´t afford to push the release back anymore so the desaster evolved but to put blame here at SoE´s feet is just wrong. If anything they rather safed the game for ppl that are still playing it, of course the deal wasn´t bad for SoE now i guess but still the blame should be placed more on Sigil.

Funny how someone speaks there mind about a subject that doesnt agree with em....they must be making new accounts. I've been reading this website before your introduction of 2005. Its a forum, people debate and share there thoughts. If you cant handle it I'll assume you need to not respond.

Originally posted by Teala

 

Originally posted by Ginaz

 

Originally posted by RickSaada

Huh?  What PR?  All our PR has talked about how happy we are to be working with Platform Publishing.  If you mean answering forum posts, well, I answer the posts that get made.  And the people who don't like Sony tend to be very vocal.  Personally I'd rather talk about the game.  

 

I still hope it fails ...

 

Look I am not one to disagree with your feelings toward SOE, people know how I feel about the management...but to wish that FLS's game fails simply because they used SOE as their publisher...well that is taking it a little to far in my opinion.    Rick and them worked hard to bring us this game and now you wish it to fail even though it'll be one of he better games on the market and a different one at that!   ::boggles::

 

 

BTW, theres no way of knowing whether or not its going to be "one of the better games on the market" until its released.

Originally posted by twitch242

Fun how most of the rambling soe haters allways only have a few posts. Guess we have some insane people outthere creating new accounts just to spew their nonsense... Then again looking at the swg forums makes me loose all faith in humanity.

Take a look at my registration date and post count, sunshine.  I've been here since April.

Originally posted by Apache_

This is hilarious.   A perfect flash back of Vanguard.   I know that is not Brad, and Vanguard was a different game, etc. etc.

But you have to admit that its following the same path (for lack of a better word).

All the SoE haters flaming SOE.  Refusing to buy the game.  Warning potential players about SoE...

Then the game developers reassuring that SoE is ONLY publishing, and will NEVER have any influence on the developement of the game.   The Fanbois jumping in defending thier game.  Flame wars all over the place.. 

You have to admit.  Its a flashback with a different game name.   I still wonder why anyone would want to be associated with SoE at all these days.   Just having SoE attatched to the game is going to cost a company not only thier reputation to a certain degree, but also less subscribers to thier game.   SoE must have one hell of a package deal.

 

History just repeating itself. You think all the stuff that went down with other games.....eh nevermind. Its better to let people find out for themselves. Denial is one hell of a concept.

Originally posted by RickSaada

I've been over this quite a few times already.  We don't believe that there are even 5000 people who will give up a game they want to play because of who puts the boxes on shelves, and we believe there are many many more (like 10 times that number) who will only see the game because of Sony's efforts that will put us into every Best Buy, Walmart, Circuit City, Gamespot and EB Games in the country (something we couldn't do ourselves).   As a business decision, it's a good trade.   Sure, we'll lose a few hardcore Sony Haters.  I'm sorry they feel that way, and while I respect their dedication to a three year old wrong, I'm not going to make a bad decision for FLS based on that respect. 

WORD UP! Once again, can't wait to dust off my sexton! Feel free to initiate dirty comments...now!

Originally posted by Briansho

Originally posted by Apache_

This is hilarious.   A perfect flash back of Vanguard.   I know that is not Brad, and Vanguard was a different game, etc. etc.

But you have to admit that its following the same path (for lack of a better word).

All the SoE haters flaming SOE.  Refusing to buy the game.  Warning potential players about SoE...

Then the game developers reassuring that SoE is ONLY publishing, and will NEVER have any influence on the developement of the game.   The Fanbois jumping in defending thier game.  Flame wars all over the place.. 

You have to admit.  Its a flashback with a different game name.   I still wonder why anyone would want to be associated with SoE at all these days.   Just having SoE attatched to the game is going to cost a company not only thier reputation to a certain degree, but also less subscribers to thier game.   SoE must have one hell of a package deal.

 

History just repeating itself. You think all the stuff that went down with other games.....eh nevermind. Its better to let people find out for themselves. Denial is one hell of a concept.

You know the reason Vanguard 'crashed' from it's initial 200k+ buyers was not because of SOE. It was due to the state of the game. 200k+ buyers despite of you trolls.

So what exactly is the history repeating itself and what are there to find out?