WAR (Warhammer Online)

Why?

I know why, these are the same people that got me to love meaningful PVP through DAoC RVR. Only unlike DAoC, this game should break all but the most hardcore PVE's fear and/or hate of PVP.

How you ask?

Simple, they have eliminated the most jarring aspects of PVP through content driven to put the warfare into context and part of a rewarding story arc rather then just because, like so many games, or a an alternative grind for gear. Oh and the Chicken, one mustn't forget the Chicken. With Griefing countered so... visibly, so. nicely, the most annoying aspect of RVR/PVP play is gone. Being steamrolled and ganked by some lowlife with no skill, courage or honor.

It's sheer freaking genius is what it is. Players who always shy from PVP play almost always cite the Gankers, or the pointlessness of it all. Now I am sure there are other arguments, but those are a minority and really, you cannot please everyone. Just can't do it.

No one can say until it comes out really. I'd like it to be that way, but who knows.

Originally posted by MrVicchio

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Why?

I know why, these are the same people that got me to love meaningful PVP through DAoC RVR. Only unlike DAoC, this game should break all but the most hardcore PVE's fear and/or hate of PVP.

How you ask?

Simple, they have eliminated the most jarring aspects of PVP through content driven to put the warfare into context and part of a rewarding story arc rather then just because, like so many games, or a an alternative grind for gear. Oh and the Chicken, one mustn't forget the Chicken. With Griefing countered so... visibly, so. nicely, the most annoying aspect of RVR/PVP play is gone. Being steamrolled and ganked by some lowlife with no skill, courage or honor.

It's sheer freaking genius is what it is. Players who always shy from PVP play almost always cite the Gankers, or the pointlessness of it all. Now I am sure there are other arguments, but those are a minority and really, you cannot please everyone. Just can't do it.

Last paragraph somes up my exp with PVP

1) PvPers are on the most part, immature, anti-social brats - out of 10 years of MMOs, over 20-30 games played - ALL the same.  Usually, teenie-boppers.

2) They gang-bang you - no honor! (not they they know what it is)

3) They gank you - no honor, again!

4) FFA PVP is a mess.  Pointless, mindless, wreckless, out of control people killing for the sake of killing.  You usually don't get gold, items, or anything either in return.  People do it because it makes their online persona feel "tough", like bully's do in grade->high school... Any everyone LOVED them.  Not.

5) My personal favorite, games that allow pvp in leveling zones.  You're at 10% health, and just finished of a strong monster.  Before you can even loot it, BAM, here comes the hiding pvp coward to finish off your remaining 10% hps.

6) Oh god, the teen-bopper bragging.  WHO CARES.  Kick my ass in real life, THEN I'll be impressed.  Do it in a game, oh gawd, who the F cares?  "I'll so pnwd you".. blah blah, and more AOL-speak.  Can't stand it.

DAoC is the only game I've seen do PvP right, that I can remember.  The ONLY one.  Some others game close, but it never fully materialized.  (bounties, etc).  You just had bully's against other bully's.

What saved me?  No pvp games, and instances.  I could jump into an instance, explore, and go afk to settle things with my family, with no worries of being ganked while gone.

Please bring back the anti FFA games, where adventure/discovery what a large part of the game (UO, EQ, Horizons, etc), athough the early days of UO had the worst implements FFA pvp of any game ever.  They learned from their mistakes, but 10 years later, other games STILL haven't.  How many TEENs actually subscribe to games compared to their more mature counterparts?  Looks like my 20+, 30+ MMO generation has been forgotten.

Honestly, I'm SICK of always waiting for a game to play.  Played and bored of everything out there now, and all I do is read hype about games that are coming out in a year (they delayed 5 or more times, or worse, cencelled).  I want to play something now.

Why can't there by mature servers.. no kiddies, no pvp, and faster and higher exp, loot, drop-rates for casual players like dads, and people with busy lives and so forth?  The teenies would try to log into this server too, but to curb that, a damn level over time restriction!!.. so, you could play 8 hours a day if you wanted, but could only get so far, on THAT server, and there could be other servers for the power-gamers/ffa pvp/immature crowd.

I find myself playing only on private servers these days and not because they are free... because of the advanced rates.  Who ever invented the (year to get to level xx mentality - EQ?)  Also, people hate grinding so much, which should be called character development, but done badly, so they bot.  What's the point of playing a game just to bot the first 30-odd levels?  That's just a poorly designed game in my book.

Hmm, I gotta write a blog one of these days.

This is precisely how i feel this game is going to go, seemless pvp/pve experience with a decent community (hopefully), i have been on the recieving end of grief numerous times and its really not fun at all, i left eve because of griefing and i got annoyed with wow because of grief, i dont see why people do it for a "living" as some i have met on my travels seem to. its always the same names over and over again that haunt low level questing / grinding places and kill the little folks. im so glad they will be chikenified in WAR and it will hopefully drive these loosers away from the game if they cant indulge in their favorite passtime lol. and meaningfull pvp with decent rewards instead of paltry titles or crappy gear will be a breath of fresh air :D so looking forward to WAR

Wishful thinking at it's best imo :p We'll see when the game has been released for a while ^^

Originally posted by Pheace

Wishful thinking at it's best imo :p We'll see when the game has been released for a while ^^

And your basis for this comment is....

Originally posted by MrVicchio

Originally posted by Pheace

Wishful thinking at it's best imo :p We'll see when the game has been released for a while ^^

And your basis for this comment is....

How funny, that's exactly how I wanted to quote your first post

I must admit my ignorance to what will be different in Warhammer?

Can anyone point me to a link about what the chickenification or whatever Mythic is trying to do?  I am very interested.

I don't know what exactal triggers it but...

Say a capped character wanted to go grief the lower levels well you may try HOWEVER if you do you've angered the Chaos gods (why they actally want a fair fight is behond me) and get turned into the dreaded chaos chicken!!! Which I  hope the lowers can kill (ahhh.. THATS why cuz it's funny :P)