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  Stradden

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Joined: 7/08/05
Posts: 6729

 
12/03/07 9:57:56 AM#1

The team from NetDevil's upcoming sci-fi MMORPG Jumpgate Evolution have provided us with this new edition of our dev journal series. This week's contribution talks about accessibility.

One of the biggest barriers to entry into any activity is the amount of effort it takes to understand it. The quote by Albert Einstein is telling because

although Einstein's theories are immensely deep and rich they are relatively simple to understand. We have spoken a lot about accessibility in games and I think it might be a good idea to be a bit more specific about what that means. Accessibility, just like simplicity, is not about making things "dumb", insignificant or even uninteresting; nor is it about removing depth or complexity. In fact, it is quite the contrary. Classic games that survive through the ages such as Chess and Go have surprisingly simple rules. You can explain the game of Chess in about 20 minutes; Go can be explained within a few minutes; and yet people can play for their whole lives and not understand all the possible strategies involved.

The reason for this is that complexity has to do with permutations of simple rules; thus the way to build a complex and intricate game is to create interdependent and simple rules. Let us consider the game of chess. It is precisely sufficiently complicated, but not overly complicated; just as Einstein said. The board is restricted to a specific size. Each piece has its strengths and weaknesses, but there are pieces that are universally more important than others. For example, the queen is able to move in any direction, thus it is important that there is only one. The king can not move much at all, but it must be protected or the game is over. Pawns are weak but can be used to resurrect stronger pieces, provided the player can protect it. Each piece is designed with a strength and a weakness and each piece has only one or two moves that it can make. Thus when we look at one individual piece, they seem much too simple, but when someone is playing chess all the complexity is revealed.

Read the whole article here.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  User Deleted
12/03/07 10:24:11 AM#2

Ummm.... Who wrote this? and wheres the link to the original article..as in the link to the dev blog?

  Mors.Magne

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Plying Eve's space lanes since 2003

12/03/07 10:44:23 AM#3

An excellently well written article. I too would like to know who the author is.

On the whole I agree with the author.

  Leemebe

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Joined: 6/09/06
Posts: 17

12/03/07 12:52:50 PM#4

 

 If the game design is as well crafted as this Journal, JG Evolution will be a killer game.

  Stradden

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/08/05
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12/03/07 1:39:06 PM#5

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Ummm.... Who wrote this? and wheres the link to the original article..as in the link to the dev blog?

It was written by Hermann Peterscheck, the Producer. I've changed the original article to reflect this.

I have no idea what original article or dev log you're talking about. This article is exclusive to us so this article IS the original.

 

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  Mors.Magne

Elite Member

Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 588

Plying Eve's space lanes since 2003

12/03/07 2:22:19 PM#6

Originally posted by Stradden

 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Ummm.... Who wrote this? and wheres the link to the original article..as in the link to the dev blog?

It was written by Hermann Peterscheck, the Producer. I've changed the original article to reflect this.

 

I have no idea what original article or dev log you're talking about. This article is exclusive to us so this article IS the original.

 


I looked at the Jumpgate Evolution website and it only has a sign-up facility to test the beta.

So MMORPG.com is the website for MMORPGs it seems!

  Brognorg

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Joined: 8/11/07
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12/03/07 3:11:36 PM#7

This article is really good. The first time that I read a good explanation about  often abused statements, like ´Easy to learn but hard to master, like Chess or Go.´. There are several theories and quotes about simplicity which could enrich computer-game-concepts. I like this too: "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."  Antoine de Saint-Exupery. But it is one thing to find hints how concepts can be improved and another, how this knowledge can be used to design something new.

I like Hermann Peterschecks articles, but I missed his ideas about how to make JGE as simple as possible. Yet I am sure that he will design something great.

  Mors.Magne

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Plying Eve's space lanes since 2003

12/03/07 4:20:23 PM#8

My one reservation:

Eve Online is a complicated game that occasionally produces unintended consequences the developers did not forsee. However, this is an aspect that makes the game interesting.

For example, a year ago, players suddenly realised they could make some battleships go increadibly fast using previously underused fittings. It turned their ships into solopwn-mobiles.

The game had to be re-balanced. However, the complexity of Eve Online means it is possible to think of an entirely new stategy nobody has thought of before.

I think this is a good thing (and it keeps the devs gainfully employed!)

  Nerf09

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12/03/07 9:45:19 PM#9

yup

  NDHermann

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Joined: 5/27/07
Posts: 6

12/03/07 11:32:41 PM#10

Thank you everyone for the kind words.  To be honest I think any developer that thinks they have all the answers is waiting to get burned - and we love to get burned don't we. We make our share of mistakes that have a smack-in-the-head-how-did-we-ever-think-that-was-a-good-idea effect . I hope I wasn't coming off as too authoritive or "look at me I have all the answers." I certainly don't... these are just theories and ideas and I hope they are valid to some degree. When I started working in games I honestly had no idea how hard it was. When you are in the thick of it (as we are on Evolution now) it is really hard to keep perspective. Deadlines can be brutal; decisions critical. We have all these "great ideas" and never really know which one will work.

A lot of the time developers spend ungodly hours working on things that don't make the game work any better - horrible things like little graphic glitches or control schemes that don't work, bugs with UI randomly crashing, frame rate issues, loading problems you name it. I would say about 50% of dev time is spent on things like that which makes feature implementation that much harder. Of course this is nothing new, and at this point I'm probably just venting. Having worked on a few games now I just think that in many cases developers try to do too much and end up losing focus. It takes incredible discipline and focus to not do this. One of the most difficult and painful things is to cut some feature that I reeeeealy wanted and was sure would rock, only to find out it actually sucks. I wish I would have found the Saint-Exupery quote instead of the Einstein quote since it nails it home so well. Reductionism is a lesson learned again and again.

I truly hope that we are able to produce a game worth people's time and money. Games, after all, are meant to be played by other people and MMOs even more so. I can tell you that the team is very focused and dedicated to the project and people giving us criticism and kudos helps a TON.

Thanks again!

Hermann

  Eraser55

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/05/04
Posts: 144

12/04/07 5:52:38 AM#11

is that a pos on screen?

My cool sig: Turrets suck.

  Rekov

Novice Member

Joined: 4/17/06
Posts: 37

12/04/07 7:34:21 AM#12

It certainly makes sense to me. The key, using the same analogy, is to not turn Chess into Checkers, or worse, Tic Tac Toe (WoW). I'm an SWG vet from pre-CU, and one thing I valued in that game was the complexity. I get bored with games if I can figure out everything within the first month. I like having ton be consistently trying new things, and learning new systems, and I hope jumpgate evo with attain that goal.

  User Deleted
12/04/07 3:34:10 PM#13
Originally posted by Stradden

 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Ummm.... Who wrote this? and wheres the link to the original article..as in the link to the dev blog?

It was written by Hermann Peterscheck, the Producer. I've changed the original article to reflect this.

 

I have no idea what original article or dev log you're talking about. This article is exclusive to us so this article IS the original.

 

Sorry, you didn’t state that. I figured it was another cut and paste from their blogs.. This is why i asked. I didn’t know who wrote it, or where it came from, exclusive or not.

  syphon1313

Novice Member

Joined: 3/27/07
Posts: 10

12/05/07 7:36:14 AM#14

Finnaly, somebody who has some sense. You may not have all the ideas, but atleast you have many more good ones then most other devs. I have been reading all the articles on this game and, I love all of your ideas. I got the trial of Eve, spent the whole day figuring it out, and then learned that its just like every other MMO, you click on the enemy and your character does all the aiming. That takes half the skill from the game. I love that you can actually fly the ships, and I love that it wont take a whole day to start playing the game, and that it will be almost impossible to learn every concept and strategy though.  Great ideas man. I say you dont need all the knowledge in the world to create a great game, you just need to have the right ones.

  User Deleted
12/11/07 11:19:33 PM#15

I would just like to know how the controls will be handled. I would prefer to use a mouse. How will the controls be compared to Infinity-Online's mouse based controls?

Thank you.