Fabricator! We all know you secretly plotted this.

Like I said there's no big deal with having a version for the console so long as the servers are independant of the PCs.

I highly doubt they will release a 360 version to release alongside the PCs though. I would think they would like to see the products popularity and success before doling out resources and money for support to another platform. I dunno.

 Why do you guys think that porting this to the xbox360 would be a bad thing? You would be offering to a large crowd of players.

 I personally bought my 360 for single player games, and some FPS games on xbox live. Why? Harder for the little FPS faggots of death to cheat on xbox live then it is for a PC, not impossible, but a heck of a lot harder.

 I also love the fact that every time a new game comes out I don't have to upgrade my system like you do a computer.  Like the upcomming Vista. DX10...good luck, most of you will be buying new video cards, and a whole new operating system to play next years games.

 FFXI came out for the PC and the PS2 and ran great, you couldn't tell the PC people from the PS2 people, except the people that didn't buy a keyboard for thier PS2 didn't talk much. There was no noticable frame rate drops from a PC person in a group of PS2 player, or a PS2 player in a PC group of player. Me and a few friends tested the crap out of it expecting there to be some problems some where, but found nothing worth challenging. And now it is out on the Xbox 360, and other then be out dated, I am sure it plays just fine there too.

 The OP claimed his PC was dead, not "The PC" is dead. As we all know the PC is far from dead, hell they still come out with faster processers every couple of months, and better video cards every few months, and it seems like 50% of the time that I have bought a new game in 2007 I had to either update drivers, buy a new video card, or add ram. 

 So don't start bad mouthing Xbox 360 players, just because you don't have one. The system is very impressive, comparable to some of  todays  top end off the shelf PC's and fully capable of running most of todays PC games, while my PC only being a couple years old can barley handle todays games, and most likely won't be able to handle tomorrows games.

Originally posted by lordtwisted

 Why do you guys think that porting this to the xbox360 would be a bad thing? You would be offering to a large crowd of players.

 I personally bought my 360 for single player games, and some FPS games on xbox live. Why? Harder for the little FPS faggots of death to cheat on xbox live then it is for a PC, not impossible, but a heck of a lot harder.

 I also love the fact that every time a new game comes out I don't have to upgrade my system like you do a computer.  Like the upcomming Vista. DX10...good luck, most of you will be buying new video cards, and a whole new operating system to play next years games.

 FFXI came out for the PC and the PS2 and ran great, you couldn't tell the PC people from the PS2 people, except the people that didn't buy a keyboard for thier PS2 didn't talk much. There was no noticable frame rate drops from a PC person in a group of PS2 player, or a PS2 player in a PC group of player. Me and a few friends tested the crap out of it expecting there to be some problems some where, but found nothing worth challenging. And now it is out on the Xbox 360, and other then be out dated, I am sure it plays just fine there too.

 The OP claimed his PC was dead, not "The PC" is dead. As we all know the PC is far from dead, hell they still come out with faster processers every couple of months, and better video cards every few months, and it seems like 50% of the time that I have bought a new game in 2007 I had to either update drivers, buy a new video card, or add ram. 

 So don't start bad mouthing Xbox 360 players, just because you don't have one. The system is very impressive, comparable to some of  todays  top end off the shelf PC's and fully capable of running most of todays PC games, while my PC only being a couple years old can barley handle todays games, and most likely won't be able to handle tomorrows games.

porting to console = dumbing down. It's happened to every other game that has been ported to console, what would make this any different?

IMO, port = automatically bad because console users require a simpler game. Maybe not all of them need simpler games, but such a large portion do that it isn't worth it to create a complex game.

Originally posted by teiohFromSWG

 

Originally posted by lordtwisted

 Why do you guys think that porting this to the xbox360 would be a bad thing? You would be offering to a large crowd of players.

 I personally bought my 360 for single player games, and some FPS games on xbox live. Why? Harder for the little FPS faggots of death to cheat on xbox live then it is for a PC, not impossible, but a heck of a lot harder.

 I also love the fact that every time a new game comes out I don't have to upgrade my system like you do a computer.  Like the upcomming Vista. DX10...good luck, most of you will be buying new video cards, and a whole new operating system to play next years games.

 FFXI came out for the PC and the PS2 and ran great, you couldn't tell the PC people from the PS2 people, except the people that didn't buy a keyboard for thier PS2 didn't talk much. There was no noticable frame rate drops from a PC person in a group of PS2 player, or a PS2 player in a PC group of player. Me and a few friends tested the crap out of it expecting there to be some problems some where, but found nothing worth challenging. And now it is out on the Xbox 360, and other then be out dated, I am sure it plays just fine there too.

 The OP claimed his PC was dead, not "The PC" is dead. As we all know the PC is far from dead, hell they still come out with faster processers every couple of months, and better video cards every few months, and it seems like 50% of the time that I have bought a new game in 2007 I had to either update drivers, buy a new video card, or add ram. 

 So don't start bad mouthing Xbox 360 players, just because you don't have one. The system is very impressive, comparable to some of  todays  top end off the shelf PC's and fully capable of running most of todays PC games, while my PC only being a couple years old can barley handle todays games, and most likely won't be able to handle tomorrows games.

 

porting to console = dumbing down. It's happened to every other game that has been ported to console, what would make this any different?

 

IMO, port = automatically bad because console users require a simpler game. Maybe not all of them need simpler games, but such a large portion do that it isn't worth it to create a complex game.

 My xbox 360 is stronger then my current PC and my current PC has been able to run everything that's come out recently......so system requirments don't need "dumbed down"

 My xbox 360 has a 120 gig hard drive, my PC has an 80 gig hard drive....so the size of the game doesn't need to be dumbed down.

 My xbox 360 is capable of a wireless keyboard and mouse, my PC has them.....so controls don't need to be dumbed down.

 My xbox 360 has a 48inch widescreen HD display, my computer has a 17 inch LCD diplay.......so resolution...nope, doesn't need to be dumbed down.

 My xbox 360 has a very experienced gamer at the controls, so does my PC....so the game play doesn't need to be dumbed down...

 So what needs to be dumbed down? and how dumbed down do you think it would have to be? You can't get much further then drag special move to hotkey 1, special spell to hotkey 2, and special emote to hotkey 3. Now go grind a few levels with your auto attack....

 What kind of intelligence do you think you have the an xbox owner doesn't? You think because they run around and frag you in all the FPS's they can't handle you in an RPG?   An RPG is a game with a story, and some meaning, something you can feel like you have become a part of. All you have to have is some time, some imagination, and a sense of adventure, you don't have to have a fricking PC.

Originally posted by teiohFromSWG

 

 

porting to console = dumbing down. It's happened to every other game that has been ported to console, what would make this any different?

 

IMO, port = automatically bad because console users require a simpler game. Maybe not all of them need simpler games, but such a large portion do that it isn't worth it to create a complex game.

 There have been a few single player games that were ported from the PC to the console that the console version wasn't as good, but that was because untill recently, consoles did not have harddrives to download patches and new content, but now they do, and utilize the power of PC's in thier hardware, so run the same games as the PC.

 There have been very few games made for the PC this last year that were not ported to the console, and they all look and play the same.

 What was your last console a PS1? get with it, PC's are still superior to a console, but the consoles are quickly catching up. And I can tell you now, a PC user is in no way superior just because he owns a PC, so to even suggest that a game has to be dumbed down for a console user is an insult, not an insult to the console users, but an insult to your parents for raiseing you to practice segragation, branding people, and claiming to be superior due to your material holdings.

Why would any one want to play a mmo on a console?

Originally posted by Precusor

Why would any one want to play a mmo on a console?

 My console doesn't run into those problems for years.  Not to mention then I get to play a MMO on my big screen while kicked back on my very comfy bed with the frame that goes up to put you in more of a sitting postion.....you can't beat that.

Originally posted by rockum

Well for me... my keyboard is plug in threw the UPS and as well as my Mouse. And the Xbox 360 does have 2 UPS Ports ...i havent try'd it yet but my guess is that if i plugged them in it would work fine? ...Because if you ask me ... insted of going out and buyin all this hardware for my computer and insted just buy the game..no downloading time..just plug and play and be able to set up my keybord and mouse..well i would be just happy with that. Plus for everone who so against Console MMO's....it would be just like facing someone on the computer because they are using a mouse and a keyboard.

Here is the problem.  You are limited by your console, not just by graphics, speed, memory, so forth, but just by lack of every quality a computer has.  The game would have to be dumbed down to meet the requirements of a 360, which now is nothing but a little laptop with a controller attachment. 

A guy playing from a 360 in a group would be like your retarded, slow friend that you have to wait for when going out somewhere.

If they do let consoles play in games, you'd be on a totally different server from the rest of the real game and only play with other 360'ers.  That'd be fine by me, but I'd rather the team put their effort into the actual PC game than to worry about you few 360 guys.

And whoever said the PC is dead, well its not.  We just have this ass called Bill Gates that wants to Monopolize everything that has to do with PC's, its the reason why MAC can't run games...because Gates owns every software to run them and no one wants to take the hard route and make a new system for MAC.

Personally I think Windows bites the big one and VISTA I'll never own....Hopefully someone will free us from Gates.  The man that sends spyware through his own WIndows updates to make sure your doing what your told.

But as far as computers, there is no limit to what they can do right now.  Not even comparable to a console.

Originally posted by Palance  

 

Here is the problem.  You are limited by your console, not just by graphics, speed, memory, so forth, but just by lack of every quality a computer has.  The game would have to be dumbed down to meet the requirements of a 360, which now is nothing but a little laptop with a controller attachment. 

A guy playing from a 360 in a group would be like your retarded, slow friend that you have to wait for when going out somewhere.

If they do let consoles play in games, you'd be on a totally different server from the rest of the real game and only play with other 360'ers.  That'd be fine by me, but I'd rather the team put their effort into the actual PC game than to worry about you few 360 guys.

And whoever said the PC is dead, well its not.  We just have this ass called Bill Gates that wants to Monopolize everything that has to do with PC's, its the reason why MAC can't run games...because Gates owns every software to run them and no one wants to take the hard route and make a new system for MAC.

Personally I think Windows bites the big one and VISTA I'll never own....Hopefully someone will free us from Gates.  The man that sends spyware through his own WIndows updates to make sure your doing what your told.

But as far as computers, there is no limit to what they can do right now.  Not even comparable to a console.

Have you seen modern consoles?

Xbox 360 is a $2,000 gaming computer for less then $400

PS3 is about the same.

Yes, they can't do many of the things PC's do, but for gaming, HELLO they are built for gaming.

I think somebody has a case of the "it's cool to be agaist the MAN" syndrome.

Originally posted by Palance

 

 

 

Here is the problem.  You are limited by your console, not just by graphics, speed, memory, so forth, but just by lack of every quality a computer has.  The game would have to be dumbed down to meet the requirements of a 360, which now is nothing but a little laptop with a controller attachment. 

A guy playing from a 360 in a group would be like your retarded, slow friend that you have to wait for when going out somewhere.

If they do let consoles play in games, you'd be on a totally different server from the rest of the real game and only play with other 360'ers.  That'd be fine by me, but I'd rather the team put their effort into the actual PC game than to worry about you few 360 guys.

And whoever said the PC is dead, well its not.  We just have this ass called Bill Gates that wants to Monopolize everything that has to do with PC's, its the reason why MAC can't run games...because Gates owns every software to run them and no one wants to take the hard route and make a new system for MAC.

Personally I think Windows bites the big one and VISTA I'll never own....Hopefully someone will free us from Gates.  The man that sends spyware through his own WIndows updates to make sure your doing what your told.

But as far as computers, there is no limit to what they can do right now.  Not even comparable to a console.

 The xbox 360 is fully capable of useing a keyboard and a mouse just like a PC OMG!

 My xbox 360 is more powerful then my current PC which has hadled the beta test for several of the recently upcomming MMO's.

 And FFXI has PC players on the same server as PS2 <yes, the out dated generation of console> players. And the play together just fine. I had FFXI on PC and PS2 useing the same accounts, and people I grouped with could not tell you which system I was on.

 And few Xbox 360 owners? You are talking millions of them.

Welli have both a 360 and a gaming PC but  i use the  360 more for gaming.On the subject of ported games what about Assassins Creed,Gears of War which have been ported from the 360 to PC.The fact is console are catching the PC's up when it comes to gaming and with AOC on it's way , the gap is closing even more

While PC have alot more features than consoles,the debate is really about games, not which system can run Phototshop or microsoft Office.Although the PC is better for RTS and MMO's right now the gap is closing

Originally posted by lordtwisted

 

Originally posted by Palance

 

 

 

Here is the problem.  You are limited by your console, not just by graphics, speed, memory, so forth, but just by lack of every quality a computer has.  The game would have to be dumbed down to meet the requirements of a 360, which now is nothing but a little laptop with a controller attachment. 

A guy playing from a 360 in a group would be like your retarded, slow friend that you have to wait for when going out somewhere.

If they do let consoles play in games, you'd be on a totally different server from the rest of the real game and only play with other 360'ers.  That'd be fine by me, but I'd rather the team put their effort into the actual PC game than to worry about you few 360 guys.

And whoever said the PC is dead, well its not.  We just have this ass called Bill Gates that wants to Monopolize everything that has to do with PC's, its the reason why MAC can't run games...because Gates owns every software to run them and no one wants to take the hard route and make a new system for MAC.

Personally I think Windows bites the big one and VISTA I'll never own....Hopefully someone will free us from Gates.  The man that sends spyware through his own WIndows updates to make sure your doing what your told.

But as far as computers, there is no limit to what they can do right now.  Not even comparable to a console.

 Here is your typical pulling an answer out of your butt without actually reading anything.

 

 The xbox 360 is fully capable of useing a keyboard and a mouse just like a PC OMG!

 My xbox 360 is more powerful then my current PC which has hadled the beta test for several of the recently upcomming MMO's.

 And FFXI has PC players on the same server as PS2 <yes, the out dated generation of console> players. And the play together just fine. I had FFXI on PC and PS2 useing the same accounts, and people I grouped with could not tell you which system I was on.

 And few Xbox 360 owners? You are talking millions of them.

7.1 million are subscribed to xbox live as of August 2007 and that was before the release of Halo

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Have you seen modern consoles?
Xbox 360 is a $2,000 gaming computer for less then $400
PS3 is about the same.
Yes, they can't do many of the things PC's do, but for gaming, HELLO they are built for gaming.
I think somebody has a case of the "it's cool to be agaist the MAN" syndrome.

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IGN also lists WAR under the 360 and PS3 sections so I'm guessing Mythic has said something about thinking of porting it over.

I wouldn't mind playing with a PS3 or 360 player since they'll probably use keyboard/mouse. Unless the systems under perform causing lag of some sort that affects game play, I don't see a problem for MMOs on consoles.

As long as its a Different server then im good with it.

I Allways hatted playing with Ps2 Owners in FFXI.

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

As long as its a Different server then im good with it.

I Allways hatted playing with Ps2 Owners in FFXI.

 Explain this! I played FFXI on both PC, and PS2, and nobody in the game could tell which system I was on at any given time. There was absolutly no problems!

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

As long as its a Different server then im good with it.

I Allways hatted playing with Ps2 Owners in FFXI.

www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/136470.html

I don't know how this will be in possible Warhammer... but in WoW I have about 20 addons which I use. My UI is totaly changed, I can scan the auction house to have all prices in my item tooltips, in raid everyone can see how much aggro he has, I can compare my dps to others and see every statistic possible. I get alerts and timers while fighting bosses (the game difficulty is based on people using addons), etc etc...

I update them with 2 different programs or manually by downloading and unziping files into the game folder.

Our guild is also using Ventrilo to chat, while others use Teamspeak and some use ingame voicechat.

Ofc.. I'm also chating on irc or checking wowhead while alt-tabbed.

When I can do all that on a console.. then it might be ready for mmos.

Originally posted by ahac

I don't know how this will be in possible Warhammer... but in WoW I have about 20 addons which I use. My UI is totaly changed, I can scan the auction house to have all prices in my item tooltips, in raid everyone can see how much aggro he has, I can compare my dps to others and see every statistic possible. I get alerts and timers while fighting bosses (the game difficulty is based on people using addons), etc etc...

I update them with 2 different programs or manually by downloading and unziping files into the game folder.

Our guild is also using Ventrilo to chat, while others use Teamspeak and some use ingame voicechat.

Ofc.. I'm also chating on irc or checking wowhead while alt-tabbed.

When I can do all that on a console.. then it might be ready for mmos.

 

 If you want to use a computer, use a computer, but that still doesn't explain why xobox users can't play with you, only why you won't use an Xbox.

 and voice over XBL is so much clearer then vent, or TS.

Originally posted by Precusor

 

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

As long as its a Different server then im good with it.

I Allways hatted playing with Ps2 Owners in FFXI.

imagine playing with xbl players..

 

www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/136470.html

 On top of that, most of them talk that way due to the open mic in front of thier faces, and feel some sort of power gain over it, when in it is funny because in most games the only people that can hear you at this point are your team mates. I typically give these players poor reviews if I get stuck with on on my team.

 In an MMO you would have little to worry about because most of these trash talkers won't play an MMO, and those that do, most likely won't have an open mic to talk into in a MMO, and won't take the time to type thier hateful words. Those that do, won't be any more common then those that infest the current MMO market.

Originally posted by lordtwisted

So more or less, because you can't enjoy a game with out a bunch of  additional programs running, then you don't think Xbox users should play? That makes no sense.

 

 If you want to use a computer, use a computer, but that still doesn't explain why xobox users can't play with you, only why you won't use an Xbox.

Sure.. you can enjoy a game like WoW without the addons.. but you can't raid with our ... or any other serious raiding guild.

And if Warhammer won't support addons then it will have trouble getting the hardcore players who are used to addons by now.