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11/27/07 2:40:38 PM#41
wow this thread has more crap than 2 girls and that one item Games i'm playing right now... "In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com |
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Shannia
Novice Member
Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
Originally posted by Suricata Ok Suricata, mocking you wasn't the intention. I was just driving home the point that Perpetual, and no one else, called them their official forums from their own website and was labeded as such from their perpetual.com site until they made www.startrekonline.com I wasn't asking you to answer for it. That is P.E.'s to answer. Problem is, you don't stay on the fence about stuff, you jump to P.E.'s defense. I didn't spread any false information. Facts are facts and those are P.E.'s forums and P.E. should take the responsibility to shut those forums down now that they have declared ST-O.net as their board of choice.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
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Dracus
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Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
11/28/07 3:13:27 PM#43
Suricata, actually I was referring being in the position of authority or control, so I apologize for not making that clear. Being an admin/mod vice a user, thus being on the other side of the (control) fence. And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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11/28/07 4:35:49 PM#44
I never thought I would say this but if these rumors are true then STO is dead before arrival to me. Someone stated that Star Trek just can't gat a break. Truer words were never spoken. RIP STO! Stargate Worlds, you're my only hope! |
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11/29/07 4:47:59 PM#45
Interesting news, I was hoping for STO to become available for beta testing since I had given up on SWG. It seems many MMOs recently has been failing or filing bankruptcy or closing their project such as Gods & Heroes, some being picked up by bigger franchises like Vangouard being grabbed by SOE after Sigil nearly destroying it, same as Pirates of the Burning Sea once again grabbed by SOE, and many of us knows the rep SOE has developed lately. The MMO business is proving to be very difficult with so many projects being halted. SWTOR: sub ended, no thanks to Georg Zoeller! |
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11/29/07 6:40:34 PM#46
I still think there is hope about STO coming back to life, sooner or later a reputable company will come along realizing it has potential. However I gave PE every chance, and im giving them another one. But it just seems like the news is always going downhill.
About Startrek-online.net. I realize this thread wasnt supposed to be about sto.net but I suppose its related because PE and sto.net are often linked together. I must say STOnet has usually defended PE. I remember when there was a thread made about the state of the game and how things needed to be changed. It became one of themost viewed and replied threads on the website within weeks, then it vanished. I searched for it but nothing came up. Little odd dont you think. Anyways, nothing personal Surricat. Oh well, its better to be optimistic, lets hope for the best. |
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11/30/07 1:05:19 AM#47
Originally posted by salvaje An indie like Castle Thorn Software should get the IP
There...I said it |
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Dracus
Novice Member
Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
11/30/07 11:34:03 AM#48
Indeed. They have done more with less resources. And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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11/30/07 11:18:58 PM#49
Hell, any non scamming developers would be better than PE at this point. By scamming developers I'm referring companies like NPCube/Farlan, the Mourning/Throne of Chaos guys and their ilk.
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FinniganGuy
 Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/07
Sleep, me boy. Sleep for a long, long time. Sleep for as long as ya like! |
12/01/07 11:11:46 AM#50
Originally posted by SuricataSo, Binkyboy is gone. Not that it matters as he did NOTHING while Community Manager. Suricata, you're the only one with the guts from STO.net to post over here, so you get some credit, but as you can see, many of us have nothing but contempt for that place and their fascist moderation. I was finally banned because I dared to take on the administrators who constantly censored me. They don't like it when people rock the boat or question their decisions. They banned me without notice and refused to provide me with an explanation. It all occurred when I posted a public message questioning an Administrator's actions. STO.net is an apology site for PE and the people running it are going to defend PE no matter what happens. This latest news regarding PE and the fate of STO is hardly surprising. The only thing surprising is that Stinnett is still working on the project. There are plenty of rumors flying around, but in the end either the game will be completely different than the small amount of descriptive information already provided, or the game will never happen. Stinnett's efforts to date have been weak and the project was obviously in trouble for some time. I predict it will never happen and that Stinnett will be looking for a job soon.
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Dracus
Novice Member
Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
12/01/07 12:34:53 PM#51
Originally posted by FinniganGuyWhat are you talking about, that was all old news. Nothing to talk about. Just get on with your lives. PE knows what is best, they have experience and STO is getting more focus than ever. STO will be a great game. Move along, move along...
And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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FinniganGuy
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/07
Sleep, me boy. Sleep for a long, long time. Sleep for as long as ya like! |
12/01/07 3:03:26 PM#52
Originally posted by Dracus Pour me a pint of what you're drinking there, laddie! |
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Trollstar
 Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/29/07
Rejoice. For very bad things are about to happen. |
12/01/07 3:07:55 PM#53
Originally posted by FinniganGuy I wouldn't...seems to cause brain damage.... Who the hell are you, and why should I care? |
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12/01/07 3:15:21 PM#54
Originally posted by Trollstar /sarcasm FTW!! |
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12/02/07 6:40:07 PM#55
Originally posted by Shannia It's possible to actually have ties with developers in gaming companies. I had two of the P.E. staffers on my MSN friends/messenger list that I use to chat with often about the game and its' development when STO.net was in the early stages.
Beleive me or not a lot of people forseen this coming when the GnH title was dropped and for those wondering, the publishing of this information is dead on. I'm just hoping later on the game does not end up in the hands of the developing company that had it before PE did ($OE). |
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Dracus
Novice Member
Joined: 7/14/04
"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." |
12/04/07 10:11:10 AM#56
Originally posted by FinniganGuy Heh, its a strong drink, served at only one joint in the net. I call it, PE Spinster, but with an added splash of Party Line. And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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FinniganGuy
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/07
Sleep, me boy. Sleep for a long, long time. Sleep for as long as ya like! |
12/04/07 4:26:23 PM#57
Originally posted by Dracusaka Kool-Aid. Something they drink regularly at STO.net. |
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12/07/07 9:14:26 AM#58
I know it's cool to hate on sto.net here, but you're deluded if you think the admins of this site and the likes of warcry and elsewhere don't have direct lines of communication with the developers. It's hardly abnormal for the outlets where a game is mostly represented and covered to maintain relationships with the companies developing them. I'm sure PE do read this place, but I can't blame them for not posting here, the crap that is spewed about them. |
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FinniganGuy
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/07
Sleep, me boy. Sleep for a long, long time. Sleep for as long as ya like! |
12/07/07 11:00:35 AM#59
Originally posted by GraffBoo freakin' hoo. If PE can't take the heat then to hell with them. As for STO.net having direct lines with PE, it really doesn't matter as PE has had little to say, even through the shills of STO.net. PE's community relations suck. They should have their own forums and have a Community Manager that lasts more than a few weeks at a time. |
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Shannia
Novice Member
Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
Originally posted by FinniganGuy I agree, they should have their own forums, but they are too cheap to do so. Saying that, you are wrong about them not having a CM that lasts more than a few weeks at a time. Deo was there for well over a year and left to become a dev himself. You can't blame him for wanting to move up. Binky was also there at least six months and left the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Now, if we could only get a interview with Binky, but too bad his official comment is "no longer works for P.E, so can't comment" is his stand atm. Yes, I agree, they are shills over at STO.net, but can you blame them? They will be in the alpha test of what should be a great MMORPG. Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
