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I registered with the AOC website and saw their FAQ thread over about 100 pages of posts (probably over 1000 posts). The forums there are pretty inactive and I'm not getting answers. I can't spend the next 4 hours researching, so I hope to get a few answers by posting my questions about the game here: 1) Is it FFA PVP? (can I kill people on my own team if I wanted to?)
- Phos
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11/25/07 2:41:48 PM#2
I don't know. |
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11/25/07 2:48:00 PM#3
The game is in beta so probably people who know the answers to some of these questions can not answer or they will get kicked from beta.
Also, the game is not released yet so some features may not have been added, will be removed, changed, etc.
Unless you are in beta, you are in the same boat as the rest of us. |
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11/25/07 2:49:32 PM#4
Originally posted by Phos I'm going to answer this as best I can, although my knowledge of AoC isn't very extensive. Keep in mind, this game is still in closed beta, the information that the public has is pretty limited.
1) I don't know. 2) I don't know. 3) Not yet, said to be released in future expansions. 4) Not yet, said to be released in future expansions. 5) Yes, raid instances, some PvP instances(CTF?), and I'm guessing there will be regular small group instances too. 6) I'm guessing you can, not positive. 7) I don't know. 8) I don't think so. 9) I believe you will start over again. 10) I don't know =P 11) From what I understand, leveling up is story driven and you will find little to no "go kill 20 boars" type questing. 12) The AI is supposed to be fairly good in AoC. 13) It is supposed to be skill based, and not gear centric, however, gear will make a difference, as it should. 14) I don't think this has been discussed, hopefully GM's will be able to tag farmers so we can just camp them =] |
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11/25/07 3:41:57 PM#5
Originally posted by Phos Thanks. I almost died laughing reading this.. I don't know if this is sarcasm or genuine questions, but it so touches upon the problem there is with AOC. We have so little information. The devs are putting up smokescreens and their friday updates are hilarious. Text updates rather than videos, screenshots at best. Though plenty of videos are out, a lot of gameplay issues are not answered, many basic questions like yours. Questions that seem unresolved in the game (they aren't keeping it back to peek our curiousity). Look at the forums, it is stale. I check daily and nothing, NOTHING goes on. No interesting discussions. Why? People simply have NOTHING, NADA to discuss. I am 100% sure the game will be delayed. I said so publicly 1-2 weeks before last delay and I shall say it again. Sometime January the delay will be announced. And hopefully it gives FC more time to solve the mess they are in. Take the combat system for example. Alledgedly not working very well judging the official forums. I think there is a chance that Norway's biggest entertainment project will be a vanguardesque nightmare. Maybe worse. Once the open BETA starts, if ever, I think there might be mass exodus and outcrys from the very fanbois themselves. I don't hate AOC, but the more I read up on it, the more closely I follow, the more annoyed I am with FC's handling of it. The PR sucks. They seem to try to sell the game with boobs, lurid things (and I am NO purist and neither easily shocked), stale humour, rather than suspenseful, immersive updates, giving good information about the game. It just doesn't work for me. I sincerely fear that Hyboria will be one pretty, bugged little world that after 3-5 months will be very, very empty. And I bet you my old bicycle, that the Xbox version will be cancelled. Just mark my words and wait and see. Draccan ____________________________ |
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
11/25/07 4:08:59 PM#6
Originally posted by Phos
Hey thought i'd add some more in for you ;) but BlueAlien1 is definately hotter than I am. As for the guy above, it just shows you how far out of touch with the community really is. Nice attempt at answering his questions though Draccan. I find plenty of stimulating conversations on the official forums. And to act like beta is the final game is just immature. Its only your own illusion you think that developement is in a mess, gained from what 3 people's outdated murmur's?
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11/25/07 4:20:56 PM#7
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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Another Conan question: Does anyone know of any videos of this game? Not the cut & cropped sales videos on the AOC website, with background music, etc. I want to see a real video of actual gameplay. A vidoe that shows the actual game interface, in-game combat, etc. The videos on the website are pretty, and I'd be sold if all I wanted to do was ride around on a horse with my interface turned off and enjoy the scenery. But I'd like to see what the real game looks like when it's being PLAYED. Thanks guys! (btw - still no answers from anyone on the actual Conan website. Are they avoiding tough questions?) - Phos
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11/26/07 12:16:37 PM#9
There are some videos from Leipzig and Dragoncon showing CTF PvP Gameplay. But some of the people who were recorded are just random fans walking up to play so are not very skilled. Although, someone may have recorded me for ultimate pwnage :)
I tend to disagree about the lack of information, the biggest issue is peoples laziness or inability to find information. The reason that now discussion seems to be less productive is so many things are rehash.
Dig up my introduction thread on these forums, or read the "Athelan the Oracle of Oslo" thread which is stickied on the official forums and still receiving frequent replies of thanks.
Anyone who thinks we dont share information as much as we can is either so jaded or self centered that they just want their own personal certain tidbits of info or just a scrooge. |
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11/26/07 12:24:24 PM#10
Originally posted by Phos As Athelan said, there's alot of fan taken video's available, some of decent quality are available at www.stage6.com, they take a little while to load, but the quality is alot better then somewhere like Youtube. |
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Okay, I didn't like being called lazy, unable to find information, self-centered, jaded, or a scrooge. So I went to your site and found your thread in the sea of threads on the site. I read through the extremely long thread and tried to find the answers to my questions. Here's what I was able to determine were the answers to my questions: 1) Is it FFA PVP? No. Friendly fire will not be permitted, even amongst guildmates.
- Phos
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Sophist
Novice Member
Joined: 4/30/06
I am To BE! |
11/26/07 2:01:31 PM#12
I have to agree with the OP on this one Athean if your trying to make customers you should at least take on a more professional attitude seeing as he did state he DID NOT have the time to look for whatever reason. Also I think the name calling was a little out of line for someone in your position rise above man. And NO your info is NOT abundant I have looked many times for info on the AOC site and find nothing but a migrane. Your site in all honesty does suck IMO. ( and i do think my opinion matters seeing as I am a potential consumer and a Web Dev to boot) so find another slander seeing as I must be lazy too. (If you call looking at your site for two hours at work while bored lazy) The lack of info on your site and other venus is what has kept me from following this title. Though I look at the WAR site everyday seeing as I know its possible more news could have come out.(hence keeping my interest) The sadest part about the whole thing is the biggest buzz you guys got was when you announced titty shots in game. "The most important thing is to have the design support the players in setting their own goals in both cooperative and competitive interaction with one another." - Ironore - |
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11/26/07 2:15:33 PM#13
Originally posted by Phos
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11/26/07 2:28:56 PM#14
I think you are misunderstanding. I said the general problem people have with finding information is a laziness to be willing to look for it. And I tried to point you to some places where you might find the answers to many of your questions instead of having to look them up individually. I then addressed what you said was a common lack of good discussion on the official forums. I mean *I* don't even want to go have to dig up all the previous times I have answered all your questions so if I am calling you lazy then I am calling myself lazy too. I am so appreciative when guys like Avery take the time to compile things I have already stated. We have been working on ways to make it easier to sort of catalogue the different answers. That are from the commonly asked questions because they far exceed what one would find in a normal FAQ. You also state that there are thousands of posts but it isnt active. I am not being combative here or trying to insult you, merely stating that we have tried very hard to provide information and I can guarantee I have probably answered everyone of those questions in some format at some time already and you could find that answer or discussion but it would take a great deal of effort which you said very specifically in your OP you did not want to spend. Theres a big difference between us not giving you information, and your not being able to find the information when you want to see it. |
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11/26/07 2:29:09 PM#15
Originally posted by Athelan Heh. Hyboria is going to be a brutal, unforgiving place so I guess he's just playing the part. Things that will keep the kiddies out: 1) Boobies, 2) dismemberment, 3) Rude employees. |
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Shannia
Novice Member
Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
11/26/07 2:34:15 PM#16
Originally posted by Athelan Ok, Athelan. Two statements in one of your post above are just two examples of why I love to hate you as a developer. That is how you treat people and answer people's questions on the forums. You are good people and I enjoyed meeting you in Atlanta, but please... Why do you have to be so insulting to your fans.... The bottom line is, the Q&A section of Funcom's site totally sucks. You guys took thousands of questions from the fans and answers to those questions should have been added to the Q&A section. So please, stop insulting your fan base saying it is OUR fault we don't know how to find information. We ask and you dodge by saying learn to use the search function. How about your employer post an updated Q&A section based on the thousands of questions asked. Once Funcom does that, then we'll talk about people being lazy. Ya, I'm a scrooge because I've been waiting a god damn year for a CRAFTING update to AoC and still have not seen or heard anything since the video on raising a freak'n building. And you wonder why everyone says all you guys do at funcom is throw smoke and mirrors... And Avery says I'm so negative... at least I'm not a rude shit to potential customers.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
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11/26/07 2:57:46 PM#17
Originally posted by Shannia Ever since I prototyped on my blog with the QA script I have been harping on and working with the Community team to find a way to achieve the same goal. The big issue being when I was doing it myself there was no check on the information before I was posting it. At least on the forums I can be moderated should it go beyond what they want said. It was ugly, it had no search function, it was not laid out well but it let me answer lots of questions in a fast turn around, which is what I wanted because I want to be able to communicate with you. That being said we tried the current QA Community/Dev FAQ the issue is that these questions have to be gone through by someone on the community team then sent to me to answer, then back to them to be approved by marketing then finally done through an update. Yes I want the website updated with a useful FAQ of info that has all the tidbits of information I have said over the years but it's not in my hands and I just keep pushing on it. We are continuing to push on this and find a better way to keep a data repository. The good news is we are working on hopefully some stuff to improve that, and its a major goal of ours on the community side right now to improve this.
This is taken from the recent survey we did and from the results.
This response is almost entirely due to the efforts of myself and Jayde and the amount of time we have put into the forums. Re-read the two comments that you "love to hate" me for. I disagree with the lack of information because in many cases it is out there. You use an example of crafting which indeed is one of the areas where very little detailed information has been released, but the topics covered in most of the OP questions have been discussed in great detail. And saying that we don't share any information or the information we share is non-existent when the real issue is that certain information you want is not present are not exactly the same thing. And the first part of the statement is very true, how many times do people not even bother to search before posting the same question there might be 4 other threads on that might even have one a dev has responded in? The second part of that statement is about the inability to find the information which I have already stated is INDEED a problem we want to improve upon. I had over 2,000 posts answering questions over 6 months ago, so again saying we dont provide information is wrong which is the first part of my statement. the second part is that often people don't search or they simply cant find the information. The latter is of course not their fault and ties into what I said above. And you also have to admit the second part is also true, some people only care about what they want information on and ignore the fact we answered everyone else has best we could. I don't sit down and think how can I respond to this post to be insulting or what can I do to be a rude shit today because thats not my intention at all. I've always tried to be a straight hip shooter and give you the raw info as i have it along with my opinions. Re-read what I said and try to think it through again. I can see how you get the "inflection" or tone you do from what I said but that was not how it was written. I'd love to tell you about crafting but honestly I don't know much about it still and have not gotten to use it on Beta or test it. As far as buildings, I believe they are still constructed at the location, where city layouts have preplanned grids, which allow for choosing which buildings to build where but not freeform placement. The building itself takes time and resources but does not require standing there during the building process I believe but am not certain. |
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11/26/07 3:12:20 PM#18
Originally posted by greymann No that is what will drag every goofy teenager with no RL across western Europe to the game.. boobs isn't = mature. Not in a game. Mature gameplay would attract mature audience. The crowd going guffaw over boobs are hardly mature..
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Shannia
Novice Member
Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
11/26/07 3:14:43 PM#19
And that is why I love you working on AoC. YOU care about the project you are working on and the fans. It shouldn't be just you and Jayde working on Q&As. You guys code. I'm sure there is someone in PR that can consolidate this stuff for you or better yet, get Funcom to give myself or Avery (who I recommend by the way, he rocks with finding info) permissions and I'm sure we'd be glad to do that for you. Sorry if I snapped, I just hate using search tools on forums. For the record, I love your work.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
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11/26/07 3:16:14 PM#20
I tend to agree with you about the boobs thing. Most the mature gamers, like its presence there in addition to everything else but don't look to it as a defining feature. Most people who would, might tend to be younger. But based on our recent survey most people seem to be over 18 anyway and should have ready access to other forms of boobage.
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