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Agricola1  11/18/07 2:00:20 AM

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Yeah I decided to forget about SWG and what happened and was awaiting a copy of the pre-order for PotBS. FLS stressed on several occasions about how SOE had no control over the product and how happy they were with the deal.

FFW to October when the pre-order was meant to be on shelves and yes...SOE you are the weakest link. It gets pushed back to November 13th because of bush fires and G&H being cancelled. Fine I didn't say anything there was still plenty of time for me to get a copy and be there on the 7th with the other rabid fanbois.

FFW to November 13th when the pre-order was meant to be on shelves and you guessed it...SOE you are the weakest link again! Unless you live in Canada or Sacramento, California you probably can't find a copy and your local games store has never heard of PotBS. So with Christmass approaching and the inevitable postal delays it looks like some/many/most of us won't be able to join in on the 7th. As for the 22nd and getting a standard box, well what happens there is anybodys guess.

The trouble is SOEs lack of involvment, after looking on the FLS site for info it seems they know less than I do. They have no idea about when/if a deal will/can be made to put the pre-order in stores in Europe before the 7th, as for NA they just have no explination. They advise going to your store and if they don't have it or have never heard of it you should call SOE customer service and inform them giving the store details. Call SOE customer service? Are you crazy? Some guy at a call center in Bombay is gonna sort out your problems finding a copy of PotBS in Detroit? SOE customer service is infamous throughout the industry and for good reasons.

However this fiasco is being blamed on the stores and their poor managment, well there was no problem with getting a POS out like Vanguard. No trouble getting G&H pre-orders into stores, maybe Rusty needs to start asking Smed some hard questions?

I'm sorry to be so negative and I know it's not due to FLS and they really can't do much about it. I'm fine with waiting for an MMO because it needs more polish and so forth, but PotBS is ready and there are boxes that should've been on shelves over a  month ago in Europe and North America. I just can't wait hoping that one day a pre-order might turn up on Amazon and maybe a normal box will follow afterwards. I still want to play PotBS and probably will but I was sick and tired of SOE BS before I was ready to buy a pre-order of PotBS. I was under the impression that thanks to FLS I wasn't gonna have to deal with this kind of **** from SOE anymore, it seems I was mistaken. So I'll be playing TR into the new year and will take another look at PotBS after the 22nd, and just hope that this excellent game and it's community get the break they deserve.

Agricola

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Teala  11/18/07 2:13:48 AM

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Originally posted by Agricola1

Yeah I decided to forget about SWG and what happened and was awaiting a copy of the pre-order for PotBS. FLS stressed on several occasions about how SOE had no control over the product and how happy they were with the deal.

FFW to October when the pre-order was meant to be on shelves and yes...SOE you are the weakest link. It gets pushed back to November 13th because of bush fires and G&H being cancelled. Fine I didn't say anything there was still plenty of time for me to get a copy and be there on the 7th with the other rabid fanbois.

FFW to November 13th when the pre-order was meant to be on shelves and you guessed it...SOE you are the weakest link again! Unless you live in Canada or Sacramento, California you probably can't find a copy and your local games store has never heard of PotBS. So with Christmass approaching and the inevitable postal delays it looks like some/many/most of us won't be able to join in on the 7th. As for the 22nd and getting a standard box, well what happens there is anybodys guess.

The trouble is SOEs lack of involvment, after looking on the FLS site for info it seems they know less than I do. They have no idea about when/if a deal will/can be made to put the pre-order in stores in Europe before the 7th, as for NA they just have no explination. They advise going to your store and if they don't have it or have never heard of it you should call SOE customer service and inform them giving the store details. Call SOE customer service? Are you crazy? Some guy at a call center in Bombay is gonna sort out your problems finding a copy of PotBS in Detroit? SOE customer service is infamous throughout the industry and for good reasons.

However this fiasco is being blamed on the stores and their poor managment, well there was no problem with getting a POS out like Vanguard. No trouble getting G&H pre-orders into stores, maybe Rusty needs to start asking Smed some hard questions?

I'm sorry to be so negative and I know it's not due to FLS and they really can't do much about it. I'm fine with waiting for an MMO because it needs more polish and so forth, but PotBS is ready and there are boxes that should've been on shelves over a  month ago in Europe and North America. I just can't wait hoping that one day a pre-order might turn up on Amazon and maybe a normal box will follow afterwards. I still want to play PotBS and probably will but I was sick and tired of SOE BS before I was ready to buy a pre-order of PotBS. I was under the impression that thanks to FLS I wasn't gonna have to deal with this kind of **** from SOE anymore, it seems I was mistaken. So I'll be playing TR into the new year and will take another look at PotBS after the 22nd, and just hope that this excellent game and it's community get the break they deserve.

Agricola


Are we talking Dec 7th here, or January 7th?  Because if it is Jan 7th...(which is what I understand to be the pre-order start date), then we still ahve time for the game boxes to get on the shelves.   Can't do much with it until the 7th anyway.

Agricola1  11/18/07 2:32:11 AM

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You are correct but for many it isn't so simple, if you live in the US then maybe it'll get there on time...maybe. In the EU then it looks pretty doubtfull, anyother time of year and there wouldn't be such a problem but at this time the postal system grinds to a halt as you approach December. Postal workers in the UK love to go on strike around now to get higher wages too, and I have to order through Amazon and have my mother send it to me in Asia.

I'll be visiting the UK next year and will no doubt pop into a game shop to see if they have a copy, but that'll be after the 22nd. I understand most in NA will probably get in on the 7th and I envy you, I really wish I could join you as this game has so many new and exciting features for the genre.

However it won't happen for me so I'm checking out TR, it was a toss up between TR and PotBS but I choose PotBS due to the dynamic PvP system as opposed to the Dynamic PvE system in TR. I'm more into PvP than PvE, so it seems I'll try out both games just that PotBS will have to be in Spring next year rather than January 7th. I hope you enjoy the boarding party,

Agricola.

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aceizhere  11/18/07 2:35:05 AM

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go to direct2drive pre oder form there youll get a box some time but you willa t least get a key XD

 
thorwood  11/18/07 2:36:27 AM

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Just download it when it is available. 

In Australia, many games advertised as being available in EBgames stores are not distributed in Australia, so I have no alternative but to download.

Also, download is usually cheaper here as Australian stores usually charge at least 50% to 100% more than the advretised price in the USA.  Maybe there is a grain of truth in the comment that the stores are inefficient.  An alternative explanation is that the stores are just a rip off.  It would not surprise me if it is similar in other countries.

 
Agricola1  11/18/07 2:47:23 AM

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Originally posted by aceizhere

go to direct2drive pre oder form there youll get a box some time but you willa t least get a key XD

You're right and you're wrong. I've found no download for the pre-order boarding party, only for the normal game. Secondly I live in Asia and for me to download a client like PotBS that's 4+ gigs, well it would be quicker to order the disc via Amazon and wait two weeks, install then patch. Unless let's say NCsoft was the publisher then the download would be very quick and easy.

I'm sure if you're in NA downloading from SOE is no problem and even the EU would be quick but we aren't all that fortunate.

Agricola: "Now the fanbois shall know why they fear the lag, now the haters will understand why they're afraid of AoC!"

Defect  11/18/07 2:54:05 AM

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Originally posted by Agricola1

 

Originally posted by aceizhere

go to direct2drive pre oder form there youll get a box some time but you willa t least get a key XD

 

You're right and you're wrong. I've found no download for the pre-order boarding party, only for the normal game. Secondly I live in Asia and for me to download a client like PotBS that's 4+ gigs, well it would be quicker to order the disc via Amazon and wait two weeks, install then patch. Unless let's say NCsoft was the publisher then the download would be very quick and easy.

I'm sure if you're in NA downloading from SOE is no problem and even the EU would be quick but we aren't all that fortunate.


Exactly how far is your head stuck up your bum? There are PLENTY of mirrors to download the game. And there is no difference between this boarding party version you speak of and the beta/retail copy. Download the stress test client from fileplanet, they all patch the same...

 
Agricola1  11/18/07 3:01:46 AM

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Originally posted by Defect
Originally posted by Agricola1

 

Originally posted by aceizhere

go to direct2drive pre oder form there youll get a box some time but you willa t least get a key XD

 

You're right and you're wrong. I've found no download for the pre-order boarding party, only for the normal game. Secondly I live in Asia and for me to download a client like PotBS that's 4+ gigs, well it would be quicker to order the disc via Amazon and wait two weeks, install then patch. Unless let's say NCsoft was the publisher then the download would be very quick and easy.

I'm sure if you're in NA downloading from SOE is no problem and even the EU would be quick but we aren't all that fortunate.


Exactly how far is your head stuck up your bum? There are PLENTY of mirrors to download the game. And there is no difference between this boarding party version you speak of and the beta/retail copy. Download the stress test client from fileplanet, they all patch the same...

Could you please post some mirrors that are in Asia or Ocieana please? I'm just not clever enough to find them myself, so if you could help me out I'd appreciate it, thankyou,

Agricola.

BTW if you're in SE Asia all the fileplanet servers are US or EU and they download at around 6kbps which would take over 10 days. If I left my computer on 24/7 and the download wasn't corrupt after it finished.

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RedwoodSap  11/18/07 5:57:54 AM

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