Originally posted by Taram

Has NDA been lifted or something?  Seeing an awful lot of folks posting in game type stuff considering it hasn't.

The NDA has NOT been lifted yet.

Originally posted by Confetti

Originally posted by Taram

Has NDA been lifted or something?  Seeing an awful lot of folks posting in game type stuff considering it hasn't.

The NDA has NOT been lifted yet.

:)

I know :)

I'm just sayin....

This game is not ugly.

Any screenshots of said ugliness?

- Phos

Game is still under NDA.  Only screenshots available are a bit dated. 

Originally posted by beauxaj

If it plays well and I enjoy it, I could care less about the graphics, These days sooo much is spent on looks that often the gameplay and core mechanics of the game are placed second.  I can appreciate a scenic vista and impressive graphics, but I'm there to enjoy the GAME not what the game looks like.  It maybe because I'm old old old school but I prefer depth over flash.

quoting for the truth and because i'm in agreement.

gameplay >>>>>>>>>> than graphics

if the game is worrth playing, and fun...i really couldnt care about graphics

Graphics can always be updated later.  Changing game mechanics midstream is the hard part.

There are some nice screenshots and movies to look at here :

http://piratesoftheburningsea.station.sony.com/

Yaaarrr ..

It's been beat to death, but, Ship2Ship combat is the real jewel and main focus of the game.  The avatar ( Wow-ish aspect of the game) combat was added last.

The game as a whole is still being polished and I would expect avatar combat to be included.  At this point there isn't alot to worry about.  The game's making great progress and it is fun, which says alot more to me than anything.

If the game nears its launch and somethings still not up to par, I'm sure you will hear about it from the countless  people that love nothing more than to see <insert newest MMORPG here> fail.

Originally posted by daemon

Watched this game for a long time now... and I keep seeing uglyness everywhere.

Just saw the latest screenshots and I dont know if its me or the characters and npc models look totally ugly like a game 6 years old...

Sure the water looks nice the sky looks nice but I see some kind of choppiness and cubic unpolished bad models , textures and all that in every damn screenshot.

Ugly cubic edges and ugly clothing options just scream of really old game graphics.

What do you guys think?

Or, it's me? Personally, I think the graphics look crisp and clean, which is what I want from online video games.

Star Wars Galaxies might be a good example; on my computer I had to run that game at the lowest graphic settings and even then there was a lot of slow down, especially in large battles. And that game was strange somehow; high quality character models but all-around crappy surface textures? (My computer at that time wasn't the best, so I don't really know).

In fps-critical FPS's it becomes a real problem since any sort of cpu/gpu lag will mean death (a la Planetside/Quake 3/etc.).

CoH/V, same thing, but in that game you could display it as 1024x768 for example for sharper text and whatnot, but render all the models as 640x480, and turn down the particle effects. Sure things looked blurry but the fps was a lot higher. My tendency at that point was to try to get the most out of my aging system.

You gotta remember that not everyone can afford the newest top-of-the-line system, especially when the technology keeps changing drastically every year or so (it's really slowed down since five years ago, though...).

As a side note, my old computer unfortunately overheated. Something caught fire and burned out the cpu or some stupid thing (all while it was idling, no less). Let that be a lesson to you all; buy a can of compressed air, open your computer and blow out all the dust every month or two.

Yet I fully intend on buying a new computer just so I can play PotBS when it's released. I'm that excited about it, and while some aspects of it worry me (focus on instances, for example...loading screens = bad), it's still going to be the best MMO since pre-NGE SWG.

And if my hopes are wrong? oh well, I have a shiny new computer to play the WoW-Alterac Valley-clone WAR or the twitch-fest AoC. I might even be looking forward to Darkfall if they decide to get rid of the FPS portion of it (anyone remember how ridiculous HeXeN was? Or was it Heretic? S.S.D.P.)

Originally posted by beauxaj

If it plays well and I enjoy it, I could care less about the graphics, These days sooo much is spent on looks that often the gameplay and core mechanics of the game are placed second.  I can appreciate a scenic vista and impressive graphics, but I'm there to enjoy the GAME not what the game looks like.  It maybe because I'm old old old school but I prefer depth over flash.

there's lots of depth and over 10 years worth of updates, and TONS of "stuff" that no other mmo has even come close to implementing in ultima online.  why aren't you playing it?  it's graphics are rather 2D'esque and subpar compared to many current games.  but it's got great gameplay and tons of stuff to do.

just making a point.

Originally posted by daemon

Watched this game for a long time now... and I keep seeing uglyness everywhere.

Just saw the latest screenshots and I dont know if its me or the characters and npc models look totally ugly like a game 6 years old...

Sure the water looks nice the sky looks nice but I see some kind of choppiness and cubic unpolished bad models , textures and all that in every damn screenshot.

Ugly cubic edges and ugly clothing options just scream of really old game graphics.

What do you guys think?

Its in beta for goodness sakes. Most beta games are gonna look blocky and choppy. The game isn't even polished. Once the game is complete and is polished and is loaded with the correct graphics engine, then I am sure it will look a whole lot better. Besides I realy didnt think the screens didnt look all that bad. Personally I think its just you.

Models and textures do NOT change during a beta test.  The game's appearance is going to be the same when it launches as it is now.  They are not going to re-design their textures in higher resolutions or different designs prior to release.

Some people think the characters are ugly, some people don't.  It's just a matter of opinion.  There are many people who LOVE the look of high-res Asian games (L2, Archlord, etc.) and there are others who think it looks stupid...  Art is "mostly" subjective.

Originally posted by Elikal

Never trust into screenshots. They never do the real graphics justice, in both directions. VG looks much more sterile in real than the PR screenshots of Sigil before release and LOTOR or WOW look much better in real than if you know only screenshots. (And NO, I am REALLY ONLY referring to the graphics atm! Its ONLY about the relation between screenies and game here! Before any flame war erupts.)

Maybe for you Elikal , when and if you ever get a computer that can run vanguard with every setting maxed at 1920x1200 like mine you wouldnt be saying that . 

so you mean i shouldnt trust  all these screens you use to post of vanguard , you know the ones you took  where you staged them and got all your view angles just right to make them look as bad as you could lol

Same thing i could do to any game on the market right now

Guys if you've been following the game, you'd know that FLS did what they could for now regarding the land avatar.  Trust me, this game has come a long way since they first announced it.   Even I was sceptical that FLS would stick with it considering the task they gave themselves.   All I can say is give this game time and I bet it'll be one of the funnest niche' games on the market.   ^_^

Originally posted by Teala

Guys if you've been following the game, you'd know that FLS did what they could for now regarding the land avatar.  Trust me, this game has come a long way since they first announced it.   Even I was sceptical that FLS would stick with it considering the task they gave themselves.   All I can say is give this game time and I bet it'll be one of the funnest niche' games on the market.   ^_^

I agree 100% with that

Don't play.

PotBS is a niche game.  It is not going to be the next big MMO.  Once you understand that, and take the game for what it is, you might find you're actually having fun.

It is not a game for everyone.  It is a game for people that like player run economies & naval combat.