In this new column, MMORPG.com Managing Editor Jon Wood sums up his thoughts on some of the happenings around the world of MMOs in the past week. This week, he talks about Warhammer Online's release date being pushed back, Tabula Rasa and EVE Online.

Well, it’s Saturday. That means that it falls on me to sit down and start a new weekly tradition here at MMORPG.com, the Editor’s Round-Up. In this new column feature, I’m going to look at one or more of the week’s top stories and do something I don’t often get to do: give my two cents.

We decided to add this column last week, and so I’ve spent the week trying to decide what major stories would pop out at me and make good fodder for the first edition of a column. I wasn’t having a lot of luck… That is, until Thursday night.

Read it all here.

Pretty much sums it up...

- WAR being delayed is a good thing for polish.
- TR has not had too much success.
- More EVE clones please, however i'd prefer more SWG pre cu clones.

Hey Jon Wood do you happen to listen to weekend round up with Dianne Reem of NPR.

Any way

A skill based fantasy  sandbox MMO might be what the the MMO gaming community really needs to break the stagnant repeditive nature of MMOs today.

Kudos sir

Originally posted by uttaus

Hey Jon Wood do you happen to listen to weekend round up with Dianne Reem of NPR.

Any way

A skill based fantasy  sandbox MMO might be what the the MMO gaming community really needs to break the stagnant repeditive nature of MMOs today.

 

Kudos sir

 

Arn't we all fedup of fantasy? Bring on Modern Day or Sci fi

      I agree with the Eve clones,statement.But  the Ideal just does not seem to fly with most the current

developers that be.Maybe if we wish real hard someone will make a  mmo to fit each and every one of us

as individual's.Or maybe we can just make are own Games.Or maybe ah,you know ah once in band camp"

Yea its a snipe but it seems every one wants there own thing. just got carried away

Unfortunately, I think one of the things that's hanging up an "eve clone" might be that everyone is aiming for WOW's level of subscriber base -- and a sandbox game that requires you to *think* and *plan* is not going to attract the same volume of subscription (regardless of loyalty).

It's the same impetus that caused SOE to do the bloody knife job on SWG.  They wanted to nerf the game so it would appeal to a broader audience.

*sigh*

Shava

shva shakti and shandar liik in Eve

Ashtara on Chilastra once upon a time...

I wonder why there aren't a lot more "Eve-Clones" on the market today?  I've enjoyed the two I've played, SWG Pre-CU and Eve.  It's nice to be able to do something else profession-wise and keep your same character.

I suppose most game makers these days want people to play a role from beginning to end and level up, but the problem is once you're done with that role what else is there to do?  Wow, for example all you can do after hitting max level is PVP and it's not that great in wow, maybe DAoC it is but not wow.  Also, in wow after you hit max you are pretty much done so you start a new character and max it out, all the while loosing your identity of your original character to a certain degree, your guild will know you but not many others.

I know a lot of people don't like sandbox games, but there are a lot of us who do like them.  Sure there are games that a sandbox environment won't work, but it would be nice to see more games where it could work be made to work implemented.

Originally posted by shava

Unfortunately, I think one of the things that's hanging up an "eve clone" might be that everyone is aiming for WOW's level of subscriber base -- and a sandbox game that requires you to *think* and *plan* is not going to attract the same volume of subscription (regardless of loyalty).

It's the same impetus that caused SOE to do the bloody knife job on SWG.  They wanted to nerf the game so it would appeal to a broader audience.

*sigh*

Shava

shva shakti and shandar liik in Eve

Ashtara on Chilastra once upon a time...

 

They need to realize that imitating wow won't get people to quit it. Why quit something you like to start anew in a clone of it? They need to capitalize on the ~other~ parts of the market. There's still millions to billions of people out there y'know.

Anyway.

Give me a good cyberpunk, cyberpunk/fantasy (like shadowrun) or modern 'fantasy/horror' MMO please. I guess The Secret World and WoD Online are my hopes but they're far away still. :(

Originally posted by uttaus

Hey Jon Wood do you happen to listen to weekend round up with Dianne Reem of NPR.

Any way

A skill based fantasy  sandbox MMO might be what the the MMO gaming community really needs to break the stagnant repeditive nature of MMOs today.

 

Kudos sir

 

HERE HERE!

This is just a thought, but...I think some people can't get the idea of Orcs and Elves out of their heads when they hear the word "fantasy". I think a better way of describing the difference between fantasy and sci fi would be that fantasy is any kind of abstract fiction taking place before modern era level society and sci fi as modern and post modern abstract fiction.

I just hate people automatically assuming Tolkien fiction IS fantasy. I believe it's merely a part of it.

Asheron's Call, for me, would be one such example of completely non-Tolkien fantasy.

I agree about WAR needs to be good out of the box and possibly great so extra time is wonderful. I want the game to succeed greatly

TR is something that felt like a dressed up Planetside (just how I felt in the game though not necessarily how it played) so was hard to swallow though there could be advancements in the future that bring me to want to give it another try.

Eve clones would be nice. I would like to see and system that offers what FFXI does as well with classes. I would like to see a Pokemon-type persistent world. I think it would be great to see a dual game that has a Persistent world (or preferably worlds) that has the RPG game but also an Action Adventure FPS type game as well that both affected each other. There is too many ideas but FFXI obviously still has people and has a class/profession system that was my favorite especially unlocking certain jobs.

Originally posted by Stradden

In this new column, MMORPG.com Managing Editor Jon Wood sums up his thoughts on some of the happenings around the world of MMOs in the past week. This week, he talks about Warhammer Online's release date being pushed back, Tabula Rasa and EVE Online.

Well, it’s Saturday. That means that it falls on me to sit down and start a new weekly tradition here at MMORPG.com, the Editor’s Round-Up. In this new column feature, I’m going to look at one or more of the week’s top stories and do something I don’t often get to do: give my two cents.

We decided to add this column last week, and so I’ve spent the week trying to decide what major stories would pop out at me and make good fodder for the first edition of a column. I wasn’t having a lot of luck… That is, until Thursday night.

Read it all here.

Hey Jon, thank you for the great write up!

I agree, we do need more  Eve clones in the market place.  That is why I'm hoping that Darkfall can eventually get out the gate.  As I mentioned in another thread, Eve has cloning and insurance so you really never "risk it all" when you die.  But in Darkfall, they have yet to announce a safety net for your gear and time spent in the game.  All we know so far is that it is going to be full loot.  While it sounds fun in the very short term, I don't know how it will survive long term success like Eve.

I agree with you on "re-structuring" too.  They go spending $800 million to buy some companies and then turn around fire a bunch of people.  Something just doesn't sound to ethical about that to me but that is the way of business in America today.  Times have changed.  It used to be employees take care of business so businesses can take care of their employees and people would work 30-40 years for the same company.  Now, it is just a dog eat dog work force with nearly every state being a "right to work" state where they can fire people at will without reason.

oh well, better end that rant....

Again, thank you much for an excellent right up and some good food for thought.

I think it's funny, everyone reflecting to WoW all the time. Too really say something about a game don't equalize it with a different game. True, most people play WoW but that should have some reason. At a sidenote, please people that didn't played WoW or whatsoever don't critize it. I've seen someone saying here "You get max level and then you start a new char", think about end-game content and pvp-items to get.

Back on-topic, nicely written column. The real big game that should start competeting WoW is WAR. Therefore a polish time and 1 quarter rescheduled launch time is in my opinion a good idea. You can't launch something that's not completely finished. I'm really interested in WAR and hopefully I can see the game while playing in open beta.

Also, I hope too see some reviews about TR. It looks like a fun game to me with a different style of playing like normaly MMOs. Though the launch date has only been 2 days away and you can't get a good view about the game. I'm looking forward to the first review of this game.

Here's my 2 cents.

Sad you failed to even report the Friday Update for Age of Conan on Friday yet again, half this year it usually turns up on a Monday. (News guy can't be away every weekend) Not to mention the game has more than half a dozen different worthy news articles that were released before this week ended that went unchecked. Including a VERY detailed monthly newsletter that came out Friday about the same time you ate your breakfast (due to time difference) - plenty of time to report it.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Here's my 2 cents.

Sad you failed to even report the Friday Update for Age of Conan on Friday yet again, half this year it usually turns up on a Monday. (News guy can't be away every weekend) Not to mention the game has more than half a dozen different worthy news articles that were released before this week ended that went unchecked. Including a VERY detailed monthly newsletter that came out Friday about the same time you ate your breakfast (due to time difference) - plenty of time to report it.

DUDE, Jon doesn't have to report anything AoC here on MMORPG.com  You have the market corned.  Why does he want to stomp on a parade that you work well?  When it isn't broke, don't fix it!

LOL

Originally posted by Shannia

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Here's my 2 cents.

Sad you failed to even report the Friday Update for Age of Conan on Friday yet again, half this year it usually turns up on a Monday. (News guy can't be away every weekend) Not to mention the game has more than half a dozen different worthy news articles that were released before this week ended that went unchecked. Including a VERY detailed monthly newsletter that came out Friday about the same time you ate your breakfast (due to time difference) - plenty of time to report it.

 

DUDE, Jon doesn't have to report anything AoC here on MMORPG.com  You have the market corned.  Why does he want to stomp on a parade that you work well?  When it isn't broke, don't fix it!

LOL

I was thinking more from mmorpg.com / staff perspective. I enjoyed reading Jon's comments from the GC in Leipzig about the game in the whole blog thing. Fair is fair though in reporting the important stuff. SOme Fridays I've sat there waiting/hoping for the update official post here but it doesn't happen for 36 hrs after - hey I just like to discuss what comes out when it comes out :)

If it helps to discuss new news, I gave a bit of stinging review of the IGN review from earlier that you posted.  You can jump back over there and we can have a few rounds about the latest "exclusive interview". 

good article mate. Indeed i am glad to see after 2-3 years when i was thinkin at it you came to the same conclusion:) A fantasy mmog with the eve features, will bring a lot on the mmorpg market. Imagine you dont have to grind for lvl, only for cash, imagine that you and the people are in control of the economy of the game,imagine that a 1 week character could be usefull in pvp, imagine conquareable teritories? and many good stuff that are in EVE, could be incredibile in a fantasy mmog, but most of the Devs think they gona succed on making what Blizzard did, but they dont understand....Wow toke everything good from other games and asamble it very well in a one package, some things like pvp and graphics still sucks, but it a good game, because it very polished, but high end content it bleah...They made it with the idea to sell to everybody, and when you do that, you cannot have a really good mmorpg. Eve at this moment is the only mmorpg on the market that evolves with every year instead of dying, tho lately some flaws in the gameplay, are making a few of veterans to venture elsewhere, because of ganking and blobs...50.000 players on one server? Imagine that:)

Have a good day

Lets see what the World Of Darkness-Mmo will be like..hope its Eve in fantasy-setting..

Originally posted by AmazingAvery
I was thinking more from mmorpg.com / staff perspective. I enjoyed reading Jon's comments from the GC in Leipzig about the game in the whole blog thing. Fair is fair though in reporting the important stuff. SOme Fridays I've sat there waiting/hoping for the update official post here but it doesn't happen for 36 hrs after - hey I just like to discuss what comes out when it comes out :)

If we're missing something, that's not cool. I'll pass this info along the line to our News guy. Not having Clan of Conan up this week is my bad. I've been covering News while Keith is in Iceland at EVE Fanfest and I must have checked the site for news before it went up. I'll try to get it up here before lunch.

On another note, thanks to everyone for the feedback on this column, I really appreciate it.

Originally posted by miffywiffy

Pretty much sums it up...

- WAR being delayed is a good thing for polish.
- TR has not had too much success.
- More EVE clones please, however i'd prefer more SWG pre cu clones.