Instanced rooms or instanced 'neighbourhoods'.. whats the difference really? Nothing will be gained and I truly see nothing here better then what particular games out there right now offer.

it will truly be a long long while before LotR matches EQ2 in it's customisation and upgrade housing options, and thats a fact.

So far, so... meh.

Like everything else this game offers, its brown, ordinary, and really quite average. Nice for a little while, but past that very very boring. Porridge lite gaming for the newbies who don't know what mmorpgs can truly be.

The sad thing is the average gamer deserves better, but so far they are happy to eat the cr*p they are served.

Oh well..

You know, it's really hard for me to say something has been done better than Ultima ONline.  I used to LOVE UO housing.  But it got rediculas at times with houses almost stacked up on each other.  In all honesty I think LOTRO sounds like they did it right.  Seriously, this housing sounds soooo much better than UO and WAY better than EQ2.  Instanced neighborhood. . .now that ingenious.  I'm still waiting for WoW to do this, I still don't understand why they don't do this.  Housing just adds so much more depth to a game.  I never really played LOTRO, I've played in the beta.  While I thought the game was alright, I never found a reason to unsubscribe from WoW to play lotro.  But now I might have to try it out.  As long as it's not as retarded and rediculas as Vanguard house prices, then I'll be fine.  You give me a game with housing done correctly and I'll give you my money.  Housing makes me want to log into my game, decorate, live, and have parties in my house.  At least I don't have to quest or grind.  11 / 10 for Turbine on this one.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Originally posted by Keogh

 

 

The only drawback is that the upkeep on your home is due each week, and if you fail to pay for a week, all of the items in and around your home are taken away from you forever.

Weekly upkeep:

Standard Home..... 50 - 55 silver ea. week

Deluxe Home......... 150 - 165 silver ea. week

Kinship Home........ 284 - 345 silver ea. week

All of the housing areas are beautiful, with plenty of possibilities for those that RP.

 

Not quite accurate. From the updated Manuial.

 

 

Make sure you keep up your weekly payments. (You might even pay a few weeks in advance to be on the safe side.) If you fail to pay upkeep, you lose your house. All your possessions in the house are moved to temporary storage for thirty days. You may recover your possessions through your House tab during this time. After thirty days, any unclaimed possessions are lost.

 

I got those numbers directly from the housing vendor in-game, not a manual or website. Those are the current in-game prices.

Originally posted by Clattuc

Originally posted by Keogh

 

I see now that you can pre-pay, but are you saying that Turbine is joking about "After 1 week, all unclaimed items will be donated to local charities.", and that your items will be held indefinately?

No, I was simply pointing out that the two drawbacks you listed are not true.  You do not have to pay every week, and if you foreclose, your items are not immediately deleted forever.  Other than that, I have no comment.

This is what I originally said:

 "The only drawback is that the upkeep on your home is due each week, and if you fail to pay for a week, all of the items in and around your home are taken away from you forever." 

What I meant to say was, "If your upkeep is not paid on time and your home goes in to forclosure, your personal property will be held in an escrow account for a week before it is deleted".

That's the way I understand what Turbine stated.

Originally posted by Keogh

 What I meant to say was, "If your upkeep is not paid on time and your home goes in to forclosure, your personal property will be held in an escrow account for a week before it is deleted".

That's the way I understand what Turbine stated.

Great.  Congratulations on your improved understanding!

Originally posted by Keogh

 

Originally posted by Clattuc

Originally posted by Keogh

 

I see now that you can pre-pay, but are you saying that Turbine is joking about "After 1 week, all unclaimed items will be donated to local charities.", and that your items will be held indefinately?

No, I was simply pointing out that the two drawbacks you listed are not true.  You do not have to pay every week, and if you foreclose, your items are not immediately deleted forever.  Other than that, I have no comment.

 

This is what I originally said:

 "The only drawback is that the upkeep on your home is due each week, and if you fail to pay for a week, all of the items in and around your home are taken away from you forever." 

What I meant to say was, "If your upkeep is not paid on time and your home goes in to forclosure, your personal property will be held in an escrow account for a week before it is deleted".

That's the way I understand what Turbine stated.

You can pay 6 weeks in advance. and if you don't pay even when your home goes for closure, you have one month to get your items back. not a week.

sounds like a new money grind to me...

Personally, There is not a game out there that has housing as detailed as UO.  Customization of a house in UO is limited to only your imagination.

You walk outside....you are in the game.  Not instanced.  Monsters will attack you.

You can store your valuables in your house, hang pictures, place table where you want.  Place vendors to sell and much more. 

I had a small place in EQ2 and it sucked.  Instanced house....bleh.

To those worried about the prices/calling it a "money sink":

As a very casual player [~4 hr/week] since launch, and currently at level 33 with my main and low teens for my alts [craft-aholic], the prices are very affordable for the basic house.  Even the deluxe house is affordable for weekly rents [though the 7 gold initial price is currently well beyond my means].  There would be no more than an hours grind [and you could just quest without having to grind to make the money].

On the other hand, I don't like that you can't freely place furnishing, trophies, etc.  Perhaps those will come in the future expansion that must be purchased [as opposed to the current free upgrades].

What is with the EQ2 biggots?  Nothing wrong with EQ2, but to say that EQ2 is better than Lotro is a very disjointed view. 

I have played both games and EQ2 has just as many problems as Lotro, if not more.   There is no perfect MMO out there, so enjoy the one you like, it is beneath you to come here disparaging Lotro, when your game is no better.

As to the housing addition, I do not see the need.  Guild houses are about the only thing that is useful, the rest, who is going to visit you in your house?   It just keeps the population out of the cities which is bad.

Originally posted by Keogh

 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Originally posted by Keogh

 

 

The only drawback is that the upkeep on your home is due each week, and if you fail to pay for a week, all of the items in and around your home are taken away from you forever.

Weekly upkeep:

Standard Home..... 50 - 55 silver ea. week

Deluxe Home......... 150 - 165 silver ea. week

Kinship Home........ 284 - 345 silver ea. week

All of the housing areas are beautiful, with plenty of possibilities for those that RP.

 

Not quite accurate. From the updated Manuial.

 

 

Make sure you keep up your weekly payments. (You might even pay a few weeks in advance to be on the safe side.) If you fail to pay upkeep, you lose your house. All your possessions in the house are moved to temporary storage for thirty days. You may recover your possessions through your House tab during this time. After thirty days, any unclaimed possessions are lost.

 

 

I got those numbers directly from the housing vendor in-game, not a manual or website. Those are the current in-game prices.

Not disputing your prices, just the first part. The last paragraph is right out of the updated manual.

Jesus, why does every one respond like some ones attacking them? Christ..

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Jesus, why does every one respond like some ones attacking them? Christ..

You should know, responding as if someone's attacking you.

I didn't realize houses were already set. I was thinking you buy a deed like in UO or SWG then place it where ever you want in the instanced neighborhood. I like the fact that the houses are already set a hell of a lot better. It really does give it more of a.....realistic feel.

I am also very glad to see house upkeep. Nothing ruined MMORPGs more than insurance and combat-related instancing. Personally, with UO being my first MMORPG, I would rather see houses eject all the belongings outside where anyone can pick them up if upkeep isn't paid. Of course I would also like to see house burglarizing be possible but I have since given up on that even before UO Trammel.

Instanced neighborhoods with set homes to purchase or sell and a tough but fair upkeep system is the best step forward since UO. SWG was great, but I think the lack of placement restrictions and the ease of multiple home ownership really screwed it up. Most of tatooine and other starter planets were nothing but giant ghost towns of 100s of empty homes.

I've been enjoying the new housing, but as a casual player I am kind of irked by having weekly upkeep.  Had those numbers been monthly or even bi-weekly (like most people's paycheck) it would have been better received.  Turbine has set it up so that you can pay the upkeep in advance by a few weeks, but what about people that go on an extended vacation, or kids that work summer camp?

I really do like the neighborhoods and hopefully Turbine will give us the ability to expand our dwelling at some point.  My Small house feels really really small, and the existing hooks only allow for so much placement and not being able to rotate furniture seems like an oversight.  I can't even put chairs around a table as there is neither enough space or existing hooks to place them  =(

Originally posted by BTime

I've been enjoying the new housing, but as a casual player I am kind of irked by having weekly upkeep.  Had those numbers been monthly or even bi-weekly (like most people's paycheck) it would have been better received.  Turbine has set it up so that you can pay the upkeep in advance by a few weeks, but what about people that go on an extended vacation, or kids that work summer camp?

I really do like the neighborhoods and hopefully Turbine will give us the ability to expand our dwelling at some point.  My Small house feels really really small, and the existing hooks only allow for so much placement and not being able to rotate furniture seems like an oversight.  I can't even put chairs around a table as there is neither enough space or existing hooks to place them  =(

I think this is a problem with Turbin.. sure they release alot of content paches and quickly.. but the downside is they dont have the time to finish things and add in basic functionaly such as rotating furniture, but its a start and im sure they'll add this in a future expansion.

Originally posted by BTime

I've been enjoying the new housing, but as a casual player I am kind of irked by having weekly upkeep.  Had those numbers been monthly or even bi-weekly (like most people's paycheck) it would have been better received.  Turbine has set it up so that you can pay the upkeep in advance by a few weeks, but what about people that go on an extended vacation, or kids that work summer camp?

I really do like the neighborhoods and hopefully Turbine will give us the ability to expand our dwelling at some point.  My Small house feels really really small, and the existing hooks only allow for so much placement and not being able to rotate furniture seems like an oversight.  I can't even put chairs around a table as there is neither enough space or existing hooks to place them  =(

I fully agree with you. In EQ2, your apparment was only locked if you didnt pay, but you didnt loose anything. I really wish they'd make this with LOTRO the same. :/

Originally posted by Erxi

So ....

 

What's the function of the housing? Just visuals, or do the housing actually *do* something?

 

Why would I want to pay for housing in order to spend ingame time on my own watching static walls - alone.

Not much atm.  It's a novelty.  People had nothing to do, now they can decorate.  It's already wearing off.

It appears this was rushed in to hit the update cutoff.   The areas are nice and big, but the hook design is sad.  Who wants their bed in the middle of the room?  Why can't you put chairs near the table?  Why can't you turn adjust anything at all?   Why are so many recipes unusable?   You can only have one house per account, but your alts can't map to it.  It is a long tedious walk/ride to get to and from the housing areas.  Very much a timesink.   There is really no reason to go to your house aside from laying down decorations.  Being invited to view a friend's decorated house ranks right up there with being invited to view pictures of a neighbor's vacation slides.

I hope it has more to offer in the future.  Right now, it missed with me, and I loved the idea of having housing in the game.

This was the worst update to date as far as bugs and problems.    They are anxious to get PR for book updates coming out regularly, but it would really be better if they would take a bit more time to do things right instead of rushing out unpolished buggy code.    

They've done a good job up till these past two updates, but they appear to be slipping downhill.  I hope they can turn it around.  I'm not playing atm, but I did get a lifetime membership.  I hope it's not wasted, but they are really doing some odd things lately.  

Just me or is this housing right out of DAOC?  I mean wow, looks like a total rip.  So who ripped who.

Originally posted by Elikal

It seems like a good addition to the game. However, I dont like the idea my house and items go into oblivion (aka "charity") when I cant or dont pay. I rather wish it would just close for the time I dont use it, as housing in EQ2. I dont want to play any MMO without any breaks, and the idea all goes away... I dont like that at all.

 Plus it reducs clutter, like in SWG there were many abandonded homes. I think it is a good idea.

Originally posted by Clattuc

 

Originally posted by Keogh

 The only drawback is that the upkeep on your home is due each week, and if you fail to pay for a week, all of the items in and around your home are taken away from you forever. 

Actually no and no :)  You can prepay up to six weeks' maintenance on a house (you can also set permissions to allow others to pay it for you).  You don't have to log in every Wednesday and pay the taxman.  If you're not making enough to hold on to the house, you'll know it well in advance.

 

And if you do go into arrears on upkeep, the contents of the house are placed in a Housing Escrow container where you can collect them later.

The real drawback (besides the expense) is that you can't truly customize your home - you can't really "hang your hat" because there's no place to hang it, or any other trophies.  You can't name your home.  All you can do is buy a limited selection of premade decorations and place them in fixed spots.

Once the novelty wears off, I think players are going to insist that Turbine do more.

Well the limited decorating ability and naming your house are big drawbacks.  I'll stick with SWG.