i swear to god i cant stand that every game forum i go on has to have some lame 15 page long WoW vs w/e argument, 90% of it being against WoW. I of course argue against the immature pointless factless arguments on how everything is just like or has copyed WoW. Most ppl who play this game (99% of them new to MMOs and started on WoW) dont get that WoW was not the start or MMOs or set the standard for them whatsoever. Ultima online was the first and games like EQ set the standard for what MMOs should be like, so technicaly WoW basicly copied them and everything b4 it, made it easy to lvl and understand, and sold it to new MMO players. I get why ppl like it, and its perfect for new MMO gamers looking for somthing simple to get into and to understand, its a decent title,just dont judge anything else unless u have played all the other MMOs for as long as the others have .i know ppl will argue lame points on this threat and it will probly roll on to 10+ pages of back and forth BS, all i want is to stop all these comparasins. it would be nice to ask somthing more like "what things are similar to WoW in this game that i would like/be fimilar w/" instead of.."this game is dull and copys WoW" i swear if this crap keeps up im going to raid every WoW forum on the web and spam up how there game is just like older titles..lets just stop the nonscence and just politely descuss MMOs and what we enjoy about them instead of Textual arguments, btw if you dont like a title...dont post anything about it...just leave that topic alone..it saves us the trouble of having to call you out daily. thanks for reading my whole long speech...

Fruitless argument. You might as well shake your fist and gnash your teeth for all the good it'll do.

Hmm.... I suggest you consider not reading the forum threads that annoy you then..... quite a few don't relate to WOW comparisons

I'm going to start saying everything copied Pong, which they did.

It was the first game, graphics got copied from that game onto other games etc and so fourth up until what we have now.

Also think about it, The ball goes from side A to side B and back to A again, sound familiar with quests?

So, everything technically copied Pong.

Thank you very much.

you just made a topic on what you hate.

WOW has set the new standard thats why

I foresee this become a 15 page WoW vs. everything else thread.

Ok, I'll take a shot at seriousely responding....

People like WoW because it streamlined the MMO. It took all those elements that they saw working in other MMOs and removed all the annoying little edges. While it is a highly derivative piece of plagarism, it is shiny and sleak and easy to understand. You can jump right in and have fun. It's easy and accessible.

The vast majority of MMO players don't want difficulty. They want rewards with the illusion of having earned them. The main thing people want after WoW, I think, is ease of use.

Originally posted by miffywiffy

WOW has set the new standard thats why

Now granted WOW is a good game but the only standard it has set is subscription numbers. Besides these forums have been pretty clear of that WOW vs nonsense for a while haven't they?

*Sigh*

Then don't read the forums. kthx bye.

Originally posted by Zarraa

 

Originally posted by miffywiffy

WOW has set the new standard thats why

Ummm no it hasn't.

 

Now granted WOW is a good game but the only standard it has set is subscription numbers. Besides these forums have been pretty clear of that WOW vs nonsense for a while haven't they?

*Sigh*

I respectfully disagree with you (and no I do not play Wow). I think Wow has set the new standard. Granted they haven't done anything revolutionary but they must be doing something the masses like don't you think? The ironic part is that Blizz has set the bar so high, I doubt if even they will be able to see this type of success again.

Originally posted by paulscott

I foresee this become a 15 page WoW vs. everything else thread.

Oh the irony...

Well, Wow is the biggest game around right now so of course thats the game everyone compares with the new ones. Was the same With EQ 5 years ago, will be the same with whatever game thats gonna be biggest in 5 years from now too... When Wow came it put the standard for the games to come.

Wow has been on the top for a few years now and maybee it will be for a few more years but I have never seen a game that lasted over 5 years keeping that big popularity (ok, outside South Korea). Sooner or later will a new and better game show up, something new and fresh. Maybe its will be Conan or Warhamster, Maybee GW2 or Maybe somethings else later.

Technology changes fast and old stuff get outdated. Thats actually the good part. I Wonder what Blizzard will cook up after Wow? World of Diablo maybe? World of starcraft? Wow2?

And Wow is a brilliant game, no-one said anything else but people will speculate on forums about who will become the next big game, thats only natural. Of course there will still be people playing Wow in 10 years but it will be like UO is today, a few fanatics.

Unless of course Blizzard actually can totaly change the game with time, but no one else have ever done that, and also that no one else is able to do a better game. Still, I would never complain about Wow.

Before EQ, everything was compared to UO (and before that to other muds and what not).  After EQ, everything was compared to EQ.  After WoW, having obtained roughly 20x the subscribers of EQ (450,000 x 20 = 9 million), has now taken over the comparison throne.  In case you haven't figured it out, we ALREADY KNOW that EQ was before wow.  The simple fact of the matter is that we don't care.  WoW provides a much more meaningful comparison as so many more people have been exposed to it.  It is a completely logical progression, and as far as I'm concerned you have serious issues going all batshit insane about this topic.

Go do some yoga or something to relax.  You are way too uptight....

block of text hits your eyes for MASSIVE damage!!!

im all excited about WAR or wanna try out games like LOTRO or VSOH, but u cant get any real opnions half the time because half the treads are "how wow isa better crap" i used to come to this site to find out about new MMOs and what ppl have found out, it turned into  a big comparison and bashing fest recently....mabey i need to start using ONRPG or somthing less clustered

There was a time when MMORPG.com wasn't a bashfest? Just expect it and look over it. There are useful bits mixed in with the braindead comparisons. Don't rely on anything here, just try to get a general feel for a game and then try it yourself. Most of the people that post on this site (me included) are jaded and cynical about the MMO market. WoW is just the easiest metric and a convenient baseline.

If you don't want to read WoW comparison threads then don't read them. There isn't any law that says you have to read every thread in the forum (well...except perhaps the moderators).

Its a vocal minority. the old saying goes something like....

"Anyone can burn a barn, but it takes a lot of effort to build one."

Let them flame away.

Torrential

WoW is referenced for a very simple reason, and if you weren't blinded by your dislike for the game (people in general, not just the OP) then you would understand WHY people reference it.

The vast majority of MMO players have at some point played World of Warcraft.  It has a huge subscription base and is now part of the realm of common knowledge.  There.  The end.  Problem solved.  Using WoW as an example isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Before WoW everyone referenced EverQuest  because it was a game that not all, but a good number of MMO players had experience with for good or bad.