Good review!

I would just re-iterate what some of others have said here; just because you have been playing for  a few weeks doesnt mean you cant compete with the OAPs in the game. Put together a gang of 3 or 4 players and all sorts of things can happen; they can take down an old player foolish enough to be roaming around alone or go raiding in null-sec or pirating in low-sec. Eve is like no other MMO for the variety of possible activities and outcomes.

"Choose your own path in Eve and tread it joyfully!"

Just to say that Even newbs can own a 4 year vet in EvE. As my recent loss testifies!!!!

Just read the article, and this game seems fun, but just one question......do you have to pvp or is it a choice?  I'm not big on the whole pvp thing, but the economics of the game seem very interesting and something that would probably enjoy.    Thanks.....

Originally posted by junzo316

Just read the article, and this game seems fun, but just one question......do you have to pvp or is it a choice?  I'm not big on the whole pvp thing, but the economics of the game seem very interesting and something that would probably enjoy.    Thanks.....

No you dont HAVE to PvP. Just avoid the unsafe zones.

Been playing EVE for a while now and have to say that hardest part of EVE - is start !

Geting the right race, atributes, background - all of this is important when you first start. Then its the long haul to get lerarning skills up -wich is what generaly what kills most new players.

But what comes after that is apsolutley great ! Especialy if you like PVP.

Oh and - Ivy league - Alliance for new pilots. They will teach new pilots all there is to EVE and in a fun manner.

The thing thats nice from skill-based leveling is, you don't have to be online to train. And its ONE big universe, instead of different servers. I actually like that part the most.  And being rich is such a pro, and the thing is smart players can create such huge amounts of money. And the Economy is just great :D
 

I played EVE for about a month, and found it extremely boring and tedious. Once you learn the basics you find its a very simple game.

Originally posted by MR-Bubbles

Originally posted by junzo316

Just read the article, and this game seems fun, but just one question......do you have to pvp or is it a choice?  I'm not big on the whole pvp thing, but the economics of the game seem very interesting and something that would probably enjoy.    Thanks.....

No you dont HAVE to PvP. Just avoid the unsafe zones.

One Quick note tho you are NEVER SAFE from pvp in Eve.

Safe space IE 1.0 to 0.5 there are police called Concord that will PUNISH the crime, Not nesacarly Provent it. If someone has the Need or Wan'ts to kill you they can. Concord is there to kill them back tho.

If you take some basic Precautions tho, Like not careing a Billion Isk of cargo in a ship that cost less than a Million.(yes people do this and then wander why the guy at the gate Blew him up to get at his cargo)

In Short you CAN Easly avoid PVP in Eve aslong as you are smarter than the Average lazzy git and fit your ship to Tank instead of Being Gankbait.

Originally posted by brostyn

I played EVE for about a month, and found it extremely boring and tedious. Once you learn the basics you find its a very simple game.

I agree that there were some tedious elements, such as faction/ISK grinding with agents, but I don't see how you can call the game simple; there is SO much information, I can't imagine mastering it all in years, let alone a month.  So many ships, systems, skills...it's mindblowing.

Can someone explain to me the "not having to be online to train" part? I liked the setting and idea of the game, but all the skills and stuff put me off...but if I can somehow get ahead while not really being there...

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Can someone explain to me the "not having to be online to train" part? I liked the setting and idea of the game, but all the skills and stuff put me off...but if I can somehow get ahead while not really being there...

in eve a short skill takes less than a day and a long skill takes more than a week, and that is Real time, so your skill still trains while you are offline, you can only have ONE skill per account training at  the same time, so there really is no way to get ahead of other people by power gaming

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Can someone explain to me the "not having to be online to train" part? I liked the setting and idea of the game, but all the skills and stuff put me off...but if I can somehow get ahead while not really being there...

Dependant on your stats, implants, and the skill itself, your skill can take as little as 15 minutes to train at level 1 - or as long as 60+ days for the high level skills at level 5.  This time is calculated via real life time and you DO NOT have to be online.

For example, if you have level 2 Minmatar Frigate skill, level 3 might take 18 hours and 53 minutes to train.  Once you have made that your active skill (there can be only one!) it will begin counting down time - 18 hours and 53 minutes later, whether you're online or off, your character will learn Minmatar Frigate 3.

Timers can be paused to work on different skills.  My general strategy was to train longer skills overnight and shorter ones while I was playing, so I felt like I was making a lot of progress (and didn't have to wake up every 2 hours to set a new skill).

Nice review..Eve is the only game I can't walk away from for long. No other game holds my interest...

Originally posted by Taera

 

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Can someone explain to me the "not having to be online to train" part? I liked the setting and idea of the game, but all the skills and stuff put me off...but if I can somehow get ahead while not really being there...

Training a skill - lets say, mining - does not involve going out and actually mining rocks.  You need a skill book for mining which you right click on to activate - this consumes the book and starts the skill training.

 

Dependant on your stats, implants, and the skill itself, your skill can take as little as 15 minutes to train at level 1 - or as long as 60+ days for the high level skills at level 5.  This time is calculated via real life time and you DO NOT have to be online.

For example, if you have level 2 Minmatar Frigate skill, level 3 might take 18 hours and 53 minutes to train.  Once you have made that your active skill (there can be only one!) it will begin counting down time - 18 hours and 53 minutes later, whether you're online or off, your character will learn Minmatar Frigate 3.

Timers can be paused to work on different skills.  My general strategy was to train longer skills overnight and shorter ones while I was playing, so I felt like I was making a lot of progress (and didn't have to wake up every 2 hours to set a new skill).

I fnd using the player made program EvEMON a great help i wont link to it tho incase i get another unjust warning [rolls eyes]. But this program will be of a great help in planning what skills you want to learn and it lets you see how long you have left till its done offline and it even tells you to within 4 seconds when it will be done.

nice review!

Originally posted by MR-Bubbles

Originally posted by Taera

 

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Can someone explain to me the "not having to be online to train" part? I liked the setting and idea of the game, but all the skills and stuff put me off...but if I can somehow get ahead while not really being there...

Training a skill - lets say, mining - does not involve going out and actually mining rocks.  You need a skill book for mining which you right click on to activate - this consumes the book and starts the skill training.

 

Dependant on your stats, implants, and the skill itself, your skill can take as little as 15 minutes to train at level 1 - or as long as 60+ days for the high level skills at level 5.  This time is calculated via real life time and you DO NOT have to be online.

For example, if you have level 2 Minmatar Frigate skill, level 3 might take 18 hours and 53 minutes to train.  Once you have made that your active skill (there can be only one!) it will begin counting down time - 18 hours and 53 minutes later, whether you're online or off, your character will learn Minmatar Frigate 3.

Timers can be paused to work on different skills.  My general strategy was to train longer skills overnight and shorter ones while I was playing, so I felt like I was making a lot of progress (and didn't have to wake up every 2 hours to set a new skill).

I fnd using the player made program EvEMON a great help i wont link to it tho incase i get another unjust warning [rolls eyes]. But this program will be of a great help in planning what skills you want to learn and it lets you see how long you have left till its done offline and it even tells you to within 4 seconds when it will be done.

As far as I know, EVEMON is not against the TOS for EVE.  Please email me at community@mmorpg.com if you recieved a warning or ban for mentioning this program.

As one of the "old timers" around EVE (Been playing since Beta Phase 5 - January, 2003), I can safely say that EVE has something for everyone...if you know where to look for it.  Admittedly, Space is big...REALLY, REALLY big, and the developers at CCC have done a wonderful job of hammering that home every time you leave a station and pan around your ship, taking in the beauty of every nebula, every star, every ship that passes you (or closes in to engage you, guns blazing). 

My own experience in the game was greatly enhanced by the corporation I joined in the beginning during Beta, a corporation that specializes in building ships and mining to provide our own raw materials to build from.  However, my role in my corp was primarily in the defense of my Corpmates and our corporate assets as a combat pilot...so I got to experience both the industrial/Economic side of the game, as well as the more martial aspects of the game. Over the last 5 years, I've had the opportunity to learn both sides of the game from some of the most experienced players out there, sometimes at the expense of the brand new ship I'd just been issued, and/or being "Scrambled" (EVE-slang for being podded :P).  And while losses are severe and somewhat unforgiving in EVE (losing your ship, all the mounted modules, your cargo, and possibly your clone), losses are generally able to be recouped in short order. 

I'm very happy, though, that you didn't let the sheer vastness of EVE deter you from experiencing the game, and as has been previously alluded to, "It keeps getting better the longer you play."  Skill training that takes place while you're at work, while you're asleep, while you're helping the wife/husband/SO take care of the kids (dog/cat/goldfish/etc...), is I think one of the best points of this game, and eliminates the "grinding" aspect of being competetive in the game...though the only real "grind" is the pursuit of the "Almighty ISK".

Once again, for those in the MMORPG community reading these reviews and are looking for a genuinely unique experience in the MMO market, EVE is one of the best examples of a beautiful, complex, and thoroughly enjoyable game that continues to innovate and lead by example, rather than follow the herd.

Warmest Regards,

Entheos

Hadean Drive Yards

"Building with Tomorrow's Technology, Today."

Sounds like the perfect game for me to be playing while I'm in school. Do you guys have any "builds" that center around making money?

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Sounds like the perfect game for me to be playing while I'm in school. Do you guys have any "builds" that center around making money?

You'll need to do a bit of research first before you can make up your mind.....

Are any of those more...beginner friendly? I'm not looking for any immediate danger, for one.