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  BlitzBlade

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Joined: 10/16/07
Posts: 71

10/27/07 4:00:52 PM#21

Originally posted by Gorair

um they said on their forums somewhere that the MMO was not a BW IP - sooo its not ME or JE.

their words not mine. and my 1st post earleir says why i think its a fantasy based .. mainly because they only want devs with fantasy based mmo exp for the austin offices kind of odd experienc to ask for to make a sci-fi / space game i would think.

 

 

 


oh well...

Plz don't let it be Harry Potter!

  solaris777

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Joined: 10/21/07
Posts: 120

10/27/07 4:02:06 PM#22

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.

  Arndur

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Joined: 4/26/07
Posts: 2193

BOOMER SOONER

10/27/07 4:06:28 PM#23

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

  solaris777

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Joined: 10/21/07
Posts: 120

10/27/07 4:12:12 PM#24

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.

  Deltawraith

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Joined: 5/03/07
Posts: 120

"Better to fight for something, than live for nothing."
George S. Patton

10/27/07 4:16:37 PM#25
Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.

Hogwarts Online! FTW.

  Arndur

Novice Member

Joined: 4/26/07
Posts: 2193

BOOMER SOONER

10/27/07 4:17:06 PM#26

Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.


http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=468659&forum=22&sp=0

read this post on their fourms. serval time sthey said THEIR OWN IP. one even said to not hold your breath their will not be a KOTOR MMO unless EA play a crapload of money to LA to be allowed to publish which they wont. why didnt bioware make KOTOR 2 it seems pretty oblisious if LA wanted them to make a mmo they wouldve made it.

Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

  solaris777

Novice Member

Joined: 10/21/07
Posts: 120

10/27/07 4:19:49 PM#27
Originally posted by Deltawraith
Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.

Hogwarts Online! FTW.

I am pretty sure this is a KOTOR MMO but  yes, the only other possibility is HP online, imo. after D&D guy's statement there is no other possibility.

  Elikal

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 7147

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

10/27/07 4:21:22 PM#28

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

 

No their DIDNT.

the three MOST important facts are

1. the PDF: It is something very inside, and its says the MMO is NOT their own IP, so that rules out Jade Empire AND Mass Effect!

SEE: library.corporate-ir.net/library/88/881/88189/items/264618/EAPres.pdf

2. There is an OFFICIAL comment from a D&D guy, who confirmes its NOT a D&D MMO Bioware is making, so its not BG or NWN either.

SEE: www.enworld.org/showpost.php

3. - in one of the recent interviews on Gamespot with one of those responsible guys, Ray Myzuka, said, the Bioware MMO "got all the characters and story arc that BioWare is known for"

SEE:
www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/news.html

Which as a simple, logical conclusion leaves: its a KOTOR MMO.

It can't be something new, either, since it would then be their own IP, which the PDF says it IS NOT.

If the executive guy from D&D/Wizards of the Coast isnt lying, which he has no reason to, and the PDF isnt a fake to mislead is, the KOTOR MMO is the ONLY logical conslusion. You only need to cross-reference of these three sources.

Elementary. ;)

"Things weren't better in the past. But a lot of things were GOOD, and they would STILL be, if people had stopped the fuck messing around with them!"
- J. Malmsheimer

  Deltawraith

Novice Member

Joined: 5/03/07
Posts: 120

"Better to fight for something, than live for nothing."
George S. Patton

10/27/07 4:23:19 PM#29
Originally posted by solaris777
Originally posted by Deltawraith
Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.

Hogwarts Online! FTW.

I am pretty sure this is a KOTOR MMO but  yes, the only other possibility is HP online, imo. after D&D guy's statement there is no other possibility.

personally IF it is a KOTOR game which I dont think it is, BUT if it is, I hope they devote enough time to make it what a SW IP should be, because if they dont it will end up like SWG is now. also I dont really care what the MMO is (other than a SW IP) because we can bet one way or the other it will be at least decent coming from BioWare I may not play it because of all this hype about it is kinda turning me off on it already but I still will imagine it will be half way decent (if it is SW it better damn well be excellent and not just decent)

  solaris777

Novice Member

Joined: 10/21/07
Posts: 120

10/27/07 4:27:24 PM#30

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.


http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=468659&forum=22&sp=0

 

read this post on their fourms. serval time sthey said THEIR OWN IP. one even said to not hold your breath their will not be a KOTOR MMO unless EA play a crapload of money to LA to be allowed to publish which they wont. why didnt bioware make KOTOR 2 it seems pretty oblisious if LA wanted them to make a mmo they wouldve made it.

LOL They never said dont hold your breath for a KOTOR MMO. That post was an answer to this question :" Will you develop KOTOR 3 ? " and they said ofificialy they wont. this has nothing with KOTOR MMO and when this answer posted there was even no announcmeent of the MMO. and you still talking about their own IP. man click here:

library.corporate-ir.net/library/88/881/88189/items/264618/EAPres.pdf

as You see on 2nd page, new MMO is not a Bioware/Pandemic IP.
and about EA/LEC competitor thing: Money gets over everything.

All is over man. This is KOTOR.

  Arndur

Novice Member

Joined: 4/26/07
Posts: 2193

BOOMER SOONER

10/27/07 4:36:44 PM#31

Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

 

Originally posted by Arndur

 

Originally posted by solaris777

LOL

this website took in this week. and it is registered to bioware.com.

lucasartsbioware.com

and you still talking about other possibilities?

lol.


They probly got that for KOTOR 1 and since it links to Biowares home page LA doesnt care. Biowares MMO is not going to be KOTOR. They have said many times they want to use their own IP. Yes it would be good for them to make it doesnt mean LA would let them LA owns the rights to KOTOR. like its been said before.

 

LA wont let someone else publish a SW game

EA wont let someone else publish their game

Ok, maybe you didnt understand so. i am repeating:

 

yes they said just 1 time, "we want to interest with our own IPs" then, not so much long later they anoounce the new Sonic game for nintendo.

and 5 years later they took a domain for KOTOR 1 ?? LOL

i really want to see your faces when announcement made.


http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=468659&forum=22&sp=0

 

read this post on their fourms. serval time sthey said THEIR OWN IP. one even said to not hold your breath their will not be a KOTOR MMO unless EA play a crapload of money to LA to be allowed to publish which they wont. why didnt bioware make KOTOR 2 it seems pretty oblisious if LA wanted them to make a mmo they wouldve made it.

LOL They never said dont hold your breath for a KOTOR MMO. That post was an answer to this question :" Will you develop KOTOR 3 ? " and they said ofificialy they wont. this has nothing with KOTOR MMO and when this answer posted there was even no announcmeent of the MMO. and you still talking about their own IP. man click here:

 

library.corporate-ir.net/library/88/881/88189/items/264618/EAPres.pdf

as You see on 2nd page, new MMO is not a Bioware/Pandemic IP.
and about EA/LEC competitor thing: Money gets over everything.

All is over man. This is KOTOR.

 

You didnt think about that much did you. If that was reasled to the public adn bioware doesnt want the public knowing their game then of course they didnt put own IP. hell im sure EA wouldnt care to keep it in the dark. and heres something else if EA publsihed LA wouldnt get as much money with their own IP as if they published it. also why would EA pay to have someone else publish their game. it wont be a KOTOR mmo get over it i think LA is fine with SWg being a niche game its not like their loseing money on that.

Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

  Coldmeat

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10/27/07 4:38:41 PM#32


Originally posted by Elikal
3. - in one of the recent interviews on Gamespot with one of those responsible guys, Ray Myzuka, said, the Bioware MMO "got all the characters and story arc that BioWare is known for"
SEE:
www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/news.html
Which as a simple, logical conclusion leaves: its a KOTOR MMO.

This might be a valid point if KotOR were the only game that Bioware made. But that's not even what Myzuka is saying...

Bioware is known for having rich characters, and good story arcs in much the same way that Blizzard is known for taking just shy of eternity to put anything out, or SOE is known for snapping up tanking MMO's on the cheap, and using them to pad the Station Pass.

So, it could still very well be Barbie Dress-up Pony Online. Just with richly detailed characters, and a compelling story arc.

  Arndur

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Posts: 2193

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10/27/07 4:48:58 PM#33
Originally posted by solaris777

lol. i wont say anything more. we will see.

just denying the shit in front of your eyes.....is funny.


and i have presented eveidence that makes just as much sense as you did. your denying what i have said. i would like to see a KOTOR mmo really any sci-fi from bioware will do.

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  User Deleted
10/27/07 5:02:25 PM#34

/agree

this frenzy is getting ridiculous.  thread after thread.

im gonna focus more on what Bethesda is going to release.  Besides, after reading the interview with Bioware and their thoughts on the MMO industry they seem more apt to develope a linear MMO

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10/27/07 5:02:50 PM#35
Originally posted by Coldmeat

 


Originally posted by Elikal
3. - in one of the recent interviews on Gamespot with one of those responsible guys, Ray Myzuka, said, the Bioware MMO "got all the characters and story arc that BioWare is known for"
SEE:
www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/news.html
Which as a simple, logical conclusion leaves: its a KOTOR MMO.

 

This might be a valid point if KotOR were the only game that Bioware made. But that's not even what Myzuka is saying...

Bioware is known for having rich characters, and a compelling story arc.

Agreed, pretty sure Ray only means 'we've got all the goodness we're typically known for'.  Not like 'We've got Carth Onasi'.


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  outlaw101

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10/27/07 5:05:13 PM#36

There is no kotor mmo

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  Gorair

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10/27/07 5:30:21 PM#37

Originally posted by outlaw101

There is no kotor mmo

fully agree.

and to that money overcomes everything -  only if both sides get the money and that cant happen as LEC would be the one rolling in the cash and EA would only get the lint the change leaves behind. LEC does not let other ppl publish their SW games they have always kept a tight grip on the IP so that no one else can change anything about the SW universe without direct input from LEC, giving up the pub rights usually means others can change the universe without LEC approval.

There is the possiblity that EA steps back from publishing but not for 890 million $$$ it would take a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time to recoup that expense without pub rights, this means a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time between expansions or upgrades as they would have to front even more money  (that would take even longer to recoup) to dev those things.

Using the BW made a good kotor game as the only reason there is to even think this is a kotor game( and the end of all this debate thats the only reason anyone has to even consider this ,everything else is speculation there is only 1 fact - BW once made a kotor title, thats it nothing else),. using that argument then all expansions and updates would be made by another company.

 

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  knives22

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10/27/07 6:37:22 PM#38

Many people's dreams will be completely and utterly crushed when bioware announces their MMO is not KOTOR.

 

..and I will be here to lol at it all

  Gorair

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10/27/07 6:55:29 PM#39

i would love to see a kotor MMO mainly because im tired as hell of walk thru the jungle to a cave to slay a dragon for a sword type game but i just dont beleive this one is kotor online.

there is no reason for it to be kotor , none, and lots of reasons for it not to be kotor.

I could be wrong ( wont be the 1st time and wont be the last time) but i can not even imagine a scenario that is acceptable to all parties involved in making a kotor mmo where one of the major players doesnt lose a ton of money at the start and it take 5-7 years to recoup , thats forever in mmo life.

besides im starting to actually lean towards a HPO , the fan base is larger ( than kotor not sw) it has nothing to compete against directly , it would have to be completely original , and I think it would do very well out in the market where the only other choice is being a knight to kill the big bad troll for that new piece of armour to cover your ass.

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  codez81

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10/27/07 7:00:22 PM#40

Don't rule it out completely.  There are a TON of rumors that a KOTOR mmo is in the works (all unconfirmed though).  There are many people like yourself and myself who just do not enjoy the fantasy setting in an mmo.  Personally, I think the market is flooded with fantasy.  Also there are alot of former SWG players looking for the new SW home.  KOTOR would be the perfect fit in my opinion. 

Now I don't have my hopes up, but something is definitely coming for the sci-fi fan and hopefully soon.

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