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10/20/07 10:00:46 PM#41
Originally posted by Questionable
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Originally posted by jor8888 Learn to read btw, he said 27. Anyway... 27 Million is MORE than surplus for the next 3 years, and with that im including salaries, promos, advertising, etc etc. How much did it cost to make Tabula Rasa, total? You sir - got owned. |
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10/20/07 10:08:45 PM#43
Originally posted by Questionable
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10/20/07 10:12:06 PM#44
Originally posted by jor8888 Why the hell would they take 27 mill just cause? They will still have to pay it back and if you don't think the people who lended it to them is going to get it back than your mistaken. |
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10/20/07 10:14:06 PM#45
Originally posted by Indo 2007-2001=6. about 6-7 years. |
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teddyboy420
 Advanced Member
Joined: 5/22/04
Blessed are the forgetful: for they get the better even of their blunders - Friedrich Nietzsche |
10/20/07 10:18:47 PM#46
Originally posted by Questionable Can't get blood from a stone  |
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Plus the development im PRETTY sure did not start till 02 ... You guys think .."OH LETS MAKE A GAME. OK GET TO WORK NUBS" .... well you're mistaken, it takes ALOT of time to figure things out, discuss the features and how to go about them etc etc... |
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10/20/07 10:24:43 PM#48
Originally posted by teddyboy420 Thank you for the proverb but i fail to see how that applies here. http://www.iflr1000.com/default.asp?page=48&CH=3&CountryID=41&tcCountry=41&tcTitleID=81 (Dam the links not working) Anyways this little piece of info isnt news and has been around for quite a while. |
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Kyleran
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Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
10/20/07 10:26:31 PM#49
Originally posted by UbberGoober You know Ubber....this sounds very tin-foil hat like. You accuse people of an organized campaign to discredit DF, call them liars, trolls (oh how you love to throw that word around) and say that they have an "agenda" I'm trying to figure out what your agenda is as well. I just went back and read all your posts...and you have a strange posting pattern. Your grammer/diction changes noticeably, almost as if you aren't the same person writing your posts. You also come and go to the forums. You've posted more in the past 3 days than you did in the prior 3 months. You seem upset that people attack DF, but in many of your earlier posts this year you had no problem attacking VG, LotRO and a few other games. But I will give you credit for being consistent in one area...you have been an ardent defender of DF.... they should consider giving you a knighthood or something for being such a good defender of the faith. I mean,i know you like DF...but why the passion? People could as easily accuse you of being a paid agent (and you certainly fit the fanboi description)... but they don't...... In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of the doubters or supporters post about DF.... it will either come out or it won't...and it will either be good or it won't..... In the meantime.... people will continue to speculate, discuss, and yes, I guess outright fabricate information about DF.... for better or worse...
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I bet 50% of the haters, after Darkfall is released (whenever that is, I just hope its soon), are gonna start playing it and fall in love with it. Oh and as a side thought, I do think a new Ultima Online using the Unreal 3 engine (lol,i love that engine |
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teddyboy420
Advanced Member
Joined: 5/22/04
Blessed are the forgetful: for they get the better even of their blunders - Friedrich Nietzsche |
10/20/07 10:48:34 PM#51
Originally posted by QuestionableIt applies very well in fact. You said that the financial backers would get their money back, well not if it's been spent they won't. Yeah, they can liquidate the company and all assets, but in the end I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that they would recover even 1/4 of their investment if the game never ships. Also, I've done more research and I have to rebut the claims that one guy made about there being a playable demo at a game show in '06. It seems that there was indeed, some sort of playable demo at a video game trade show back in '06, but it seems that there must not have been any game journalists there b/c I can't find a single major game publication/website that talks about playing, or even witnessing the demo being played. In fact, a search of the OFFICIAL Darkfall site doesn't mention this playable demo in '06 except in a Warcry Dev Journal where it just gives the print-out of what seems to be a demo-factsheet/manual card. The ONLY time someone actually playing the game on the Darkfall site is for this Asp who is no journalist or game industry professional, the man seems to be a guild leader...who could be a friend of one of the devs. The point I am trying to make, and one of the things that really makes me wonder about Darkfall is the fact that no impartial journalist or media professional has ever witnessed or played the game and made the information readily available to the public. And I don't care what you say, that is not the norm and gives reason to take a step back and wonder. Like I said, Darkfall as it is made out to be on it's website sounds like the game has a shit-ton of potential and would be a game that I would love to jump into. But until I see some real proof, I have to remain a skeptical and can't throw my hat in with the Darkfall fanboys.
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10/20/07 10:57:37 PM#52
Originally posted by GormandY No arguement there, my only issue is its taken DF nearly twice that of a normal mmo to get to a non beta stage. |
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10/20/07 11:04:26 PM#53
Originally posted by teddyboy420
Ah I thought you meant they never got the money. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Yes that could happen but then that could happen to anyone. I know what your talking about but I don't think they actually showed it at the show forgot why. There was also someone who played the game in 2003 and there might have been another one but not sure on that. Could have been a friend of the devs but I find it hard to believe it was I mean him even going to aventurine was just a stroke of luck on his part. Edit: Well actually someone did get to see it at E3 http://www.the-combine.net/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleNo=322 but for a private viewing. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=21404 I knew brannoc played it but I didn't know he played it at E3 as well. Well some reporter actually saw them working on it while she/he went there to talk to them. Of course its not the norm but honestly DF isn't really the norm. No one is saying you shouldnt be skeptical.(Well I'M not) |
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10/20/07 11:08:19 PM#54
damn I definitely wont be playing this game if it only cost less than 30 mill to make. Look at Vanguard with 60+ mill and came out like $hit. Look at Gods and Heroes, it got cancelled at the very last min so that 26mill means nothing. oh yea I am not good with numbers since I use 100 $ bill as toilet paper at home.
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10/20/07 11:13:18 PM#55
Originally posted by jor8888 No this was a recent influx of money that they got. |
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Originally posted by Pyrostasis Oh no doubt, I 100% agree with the fact that they're taking long... But their long list of features can justify the time they're taking. My argument is that Darkfall IS being made and is not Vaporware, my sole purpose is to tell the guys who know nothing about this game and post that its vaporware ONLY because they heard some guys with over 500 posts etc saying it was... |
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AmazingAvery
 Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
10/23/07 4:10:26 PM#57
Originally posted by GormandY The fact is the game is all TALK 90% of the features they promise haven't been shown in all the time that the game has been in development. I understand the need to keep some things under wraps but lets be serious, no one likes a big mouth spouting things without no evidence. The game is much like religion, "take it on faith we have all these things in game" They need to expand on the 10% of whats been shown visually.
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10/23/07 4:29:58 PM#58
Well hopefully its not all talk, or all there will be to play is that "autotarget" and "autotarget facing" piece of crap game that goes by AoC. |
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10/23/07 4:37:42 PM#59
i believe this game will go the same route that the fps game stalker did. when it was announced it was cutting edge then came the push backs.... delayed, delayed, delayed, and then it'll be release and will instantly be outdated.
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Stellos
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Joined: 9/15/06
If you're going to stick it out there, don't be afraid if you get it cut off. |
10/24/07 9:19:08 PM#60
Originally posted by mmcguire2
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) or something comes out with all the same features, just some added better stuff and kinda like FPSish or something. That would rock.
