Originally posted by nomadian

 

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Well you're mistaken. Gods and Heroes is on hold indefinately. Even though they have gotten farther in developing that game they are refocusing all of their manpower and leftover finanical resources to make Star Trek Online. I'm guessing Paramount (iirc the owners of the Star Trek liscence) had a hand in this but in the end this is bad news for both games because ST:Online has to be good enough to cover the expenses of both Gods and Heroes as well as itself. If they don't handle things correctly for the next threeish years they'll be crippled financially and both games will die.

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Thats a pity.

 

They'll have new financial resourcess when SOE buys the unfinished Gods and Heroes game.

Originally posted by Athela

I have not been tracking Chronicles of Spellborn.  If it were interesting, I would be.

It is interesting, but you are not tracking it. Maybe you are ill informed, because you are not tracking it?

Warhammer specially at long term, Mythic knows how to make good pvp/rvr, after all is what keeps DAOC still running. On the other hand AoC will have a guild based pvp what is highly limitative.

Let's wait to see what will be released first, i intend to try both, but has an old DAOC fan i believe Warhammer will be the game, at least for me, really miss the felling of fighting for our own realm.

DARKFALL ONLINE !!!

Age of Conan, Let me tell you why.

It looks like it will appeal to both the old time mmorpgers who played ultima and such, but it will also appeal to a younger generation, possibly people who haven't even heard of mmorpgs because it will be on the xbox 360(right?) and it has a good combo of hack and slash and strategy. The abscence of elves and fluffy settings will appeal to the younger generation as well.

Plus i am looking forward to it!

I think all those games will do extremely well. And they will all have a lot of subscribers. But that's not the point. It's not the subcribers that count, but the ACTIVE subscribers, that will keep paying and playing.  And I think Spellborn will win that one, because of their great innovations. I can't predict a landslide, because of less marketing, but I think they will do slightly better.

Played DAoC 5yrs that held me a very long time and it was the RvR, Battlegrounds,quests etc.. Crap I had 3 accounts I don't think any game can come close to the PvP Mythic puts out..

I played WoW when I got pissed over a nerf or something but always went back to the game.. I tried others for a few months but they just could not hold me either.. I went back to WoW when I finally decided to leave DAoC   

I can't wait for WAR I know a lot are the same way..I know a lot waiting on Conan too  I plan on playing others just to see, it will take a lot for me to want to switch I'm sure..

Once!  I read that WAR is going to have the same type of PvP as we had in RvR I know it will be a blast.. Now, with EA we should have servers that can handle the load and balance

I made all the beta's for Mythic but didn't make War but then can't win them all.. Maybe I should have stayed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Ravel_RP

Originally posted by Athela

I have not been tracking Chronicles of Spellborn.  If it were interesting, I would be.

It is interesting, but you are not tracking it. Maybe you are ill informed, because you are not tracking it?

Nope, I'm well informed, well read, all that stuff.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

 

 

Secondly DAoC can be considered a 6 year long beta For WAR.  They are using everythign they learned from DAoC to make WAR A better game. 

 

Sadly they are not allowed the best thing from DAoC in this new game.

 

Good RvR requires atleast 3 sides.

The best thing accoring to the playerbase is 3 way war?  I don't remember voting for that. Or is this a subjective your opinion kind of "best".

Darkfall.

If that game is anything like they say it will be, AOC and WAR will be nothing but poofs on the radar.

1: wow - wrath of the lich king   10.000.000 subs

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2: Warhammer - 350.000

3: Age of conan - 150.000

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Originally posted by Warblaze
I'm a WoW fanboi

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Among these three the winner might be.... EQ2  :)

Provided the expansion (that is due to be released in november 2007) hits the right chords.

WAR will definitely be the winner in 2008. The smooth and bug free nature of WAR will be much more appealing to the community than that of a lagfest full of bugs and problems to be experienced in aoc.

Wow what happened to these forums? I thought there was a reasonable size of AoC supporters. AoC has recieved less votes than Chronicles of Spellborn!

Oh well, we'll see who was right come 2008 eh.

Originally posted by nomadian

 

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Originally posted by Warblaze
I'm a WoW fanboi

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Hey, if it makes you sleep better at night... keep telling that to yourself. I'm just stating the obvious.

Lets hope War will be a great game for all those of you who are looking forward to it. Myself not that intrested in WAR.

Lets hope AcO will do great for each of you who is looking forward to playing AoC. Will try the game ...maybe open beta....or release trial..but not really looking forward to it...

Lets hope that CoS will do great for all those who are looking forward to plaing that game. Ha'vn't really followed that game but might take a look.

Overall lets jus hope all games to come will please allot of folks instead of just one group against the other. Why must game X suck to make game Y great. I don't get it.....

Anyway for me there is no such thing as a winner, sure personal taste ..yeah...but  a winner, i hope they all win, as that is what can bring back the fun and maybe just maybe we can outnumber the negative when we all have found our nichy in the games to come.....

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Hey, if it makes you sleep better at night... keep telling that to yourself. I'm just stating the obvious.

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Originally posted by nomadian

 

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Hey, if it makes you sleep better at night... keep telling that to yourself. I'm just stating the obvious.

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so am I. WoW has no relevance in this thread talking about upcomming games

 

Wrath of the lich king is an upcomming game... and hes right despite how crap wow is it will still have the most subs people are really delusional if they honestly think warhammer age of conan and spellborn combined will do anything to wow, they are pvp games wow is not a pvp game it has like out of the 10 million i think that play it now 1 million perhaps that pvp.

Even if all those gamers left they would still be at the top of the subscribers list, and sales charts. These mmos releasing will be lucky to reach 200k to 300k players, pvp is small niche of mmo gaming their just isn't enough people that enjoy pvp that would make it possible to be able to get even get half of wows subscriber numbers.

Theres fps gamers etc, but honestly who actually thinks a very casual fps gamer wants to pay to play a mmo when they can get the pvp and community aspect from free games with no grinding etc?

Edit: Btw undisa probably got that name wrong, even if darkfall is everything it says it is which is all it does talk nothing to show, then it will be at the most as successful as eve online, it is the smallest possible niche in mmo gaming, a sandbox pvp world with full loot, that alone garentees it will never even touch age of conan or warhammer, certainly to the extent where they are ignored lol

I just have to correct and hopefully not disappoint you. The Chronicles of Spellborn is not a "PvP MMO". Sure they have the arena, full-scale pvp zones and shard-conquest(which is planned). But more than the pvp aspect tcos concentrates on deep story and story driven gaming...well kinda like the same thing. You can't change that fact when 80% of leveling xp comes from quests and pvp doesn't come until higher levels.

If I wanted (and want)to play "pvp" I'd play an FPS or a RTS game (Call of duty and company of heroes in my case)