Originally posted by lomiller

Originally posted by bezado

 

 

Please go back and re-read my post. 2-3% is the percentage of players per server who are in end game raid content. I did not mention noob raiders going after tier 6 or easy tier 7 crap. The top end raid content such as Contested, EOF raiding, Cheldrak etc. etc. etc.

The 2-3% is correct, take a look at each server with over 15k players on some servers the amount of top end game raiders is between 1 to 2 guilds only and you can only take 24 players on a raid so do the math bud.

Anyway we do not consider end game raid content tier 6 like you suggested or weak tier 7 stuff. Laughing at your comment still about pickup raids, and what raids might those be for? Surely not top raid content in EOF cause there is no chance a pickup raid is doing anything more then maybe LABS and thats it, and LABS raid content gear is not even good it is old and very weak if you are doing EOF content.

 

Wow, contempt for people who don’t raid the highest level content and complaints that content exist all rolled into one post!

 

ALL the KoS content is routinely targeted by pickup/hosted raids.  So is a lot of the EoF content, maybe not EH but you can get hosted raids for FTH and MMIS.  There are pick up raids for T5 and T6 content as well, but it’s less common.  Some guilds still schedule raids on T6 content for guild status and to gear up lower level alts.  Contested by their very nature are designed to accommodate “competitive raiders” and their existence does nothing to anyone else’s game play.   Cheldrak is superseded by EoF content, and yes you can find pick up raids for EoF.   

 

Those who can’t get the EoF raids they want/need should have no trouble finding pick up raids for it after RoK is released. Having content that people “can’t quite do yet” is important in an MMO, it gives you goals to shoot for.  If you are the type that gets upset because other people can complete the content you can’t quite finish you will probability never be happy in any MMO. You will either quite because you “beat the game” or you will quite because you can’t beat the game.  

And the difference is that you can do a pickup raid but having it be successful is another thing. So there are pickup raids for that stuff now, I been gone since May this year and still find it sad people can do these pickup raids but not come out with loots. Show me one pickup raid that comes out with loot from EOF content, mainly MMIS, FTH probably got easier since I left but I doubt pickup raiders are beating even that stuff. It takes allot of coordination and knowing each person and strats to do these raids, something pickup raids lack.

I call BS either way that any pickup raid is clearing and getting loot out of these raids besides Labs. The whole point of my posts is about the loot and if you make a pickup raid and still can't get loot then it doesn't mean that pickup raids don't exists like what your trying to let me know. I know pickup raids exist, but there are none that are clearing this content. Perhaps a 20 player guild getting 4 outsiders can if they work well together but not a regular pickup raid.

Cheldrak still has loot worthy of raiding, even with the release of EOF, you either do not know the loot table from cheldrak or your one of those pickup raiders who is ignorant in knowing what raids are good for loot upgrades. We cleared all EOF content and Avatars before I left and we still did Cheldrak because a few members had upgrades from some of the loot off him, he drops some really nice items. Most of our alts geared from these raids before I left as well.

Originally posted by Netzoko

Quick question. What does he mean by "skeletal revamps" (From what he said comes after RoK in early 2008)

Originally posted by QuietGamer

Wow. Ok, well I've never posted here before and I'm probably going to get bashed for this but ...What servers are you people playing on?  My husband and I play on Blackburrow and there seems to be lots of guilds working end game stuff. Obviously SoE will never be able to satisfy every single person but are you sure you've put as much effort into playing/ exploring  the game/ content as you have posting and complaining about it? Its a rpg game , not a fashion show.  I can log on and find stuff to do , even solo.. and my main is a Templar!..If people who are guilded can't even put together a 2 group raid for some updates,  thats just Sad. You need a new guild.  A new server , something...If its because the person is just whining well then log off and let the other people play it. Its a game that you pay to play. If your not happy with it then stop paying and playing and let others who do like it enjoy their time on it. There is plenty of other *easier* games for the simple folk. Like what was it on south park..Hello Kitty Island something?  Maybe go fish?  Come on people , its not that hard, but you do have to put a little effort into it. No one is going to Hand you an end game weapon and say here, you whined here you go.  If you can't take the tools we have currently and get what you want then maybe you should look to yourself for the solution, because you are so obviously the problem. I'm so tired of reading endless crap posts from people who try to sound like they know everything when the crap they spit out of their own mouth proves they know nothing. Maybe Hello Kitty or the local old folks home has a spot in their bingo game for you...

Don't mind them, they are just the compensated EQ II bashers. (  http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/02/10 )  Basically these folks jump on every  EQ II thread, they  will always tell you how hard something in EQ II  is going to suck, never mind that they haven't actually played  the new content, or even the game since launch if  at all.   Personally I am having a blast playing EQ II, but we are getting a lot of LOTOR and WoW refugees lately and that sticks in the craw of many  Fanbois

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Originally posted by QuietGamer
Wow. Ok, well I've never posted here before and I'm probably going to get bashed for this but ...What servers are you people playing on? My husband and I play on Blackburrow and there seems to be lots of guilds working end game stuff. Obviously SoE will never be able to satisfy every single person but are you sure you've put as much effort into playing/ exploring the game/ content as you have posting and complaining about it? Its a rpg game , not a fashion show. I can log on and find stuff to do , even solo.. and my main is a Templar!..If people who are guilded can't even put together a 2 group raid for some updates, thats just Sad. You need a new guild. A new server , something...If its because the person is just whining well then log off and let the other people play it. Its a game that you pay to play. If your not happy with it then stop paying and playing and let others who do like it enjoy their time on it. There is plenty of other *easier* games for the simple folk. Like what was it on south park..Hello Kitty Island something? Maybe go fish? Come on people , its not that hard, but you do have to put a little effort into it. No one is going to Hand you an end game weapon and say here, you whined here you go. If you can't take the tools we have currently and get what you want then maybe you should look to yourself for the solution, because you are so obviously the problem. I'm so tired of reading endless crap posts from people who try to sound like they know everything when the crap they spit out of their own mouth proves they know nothing. Maybe Hello Kitty or the local old folks home has a spot in their bingo game for you...

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To QuietGamer: I think I love you for this post. Your first and it's bang on.

To All The Whiners:
I ALWAYS find things to do in the game. If it's gotten boring, then take a break from the game for a while or find something else to play instead. It's not that hard to drop the game. I've taken breaks twice and came back to more enjoyment.

My main is also a Templar (70) and yes she raids on and off, but I also enjoy running around collecting shinies and harvesting for rares. It's how I make my coin when I want to relax.

I also drop down to my lower characters to group and have fun with levelling. It's not that hard to do, people!

If you're not a social person to begin with or come off with a crap attitude, then finding nice guilds or groups or raids won't come easy.

So stop your f'n whinging and go level already!

Now if you'll excuse me, my main has a new outfit to pick out. :P

SOE is a retarded company, they should fix all the bugs instead of devoting resources into making expansion pack after expansion pack.

I actually thought about coming back but now sure as hell I won't.

Waiting for Age of Conan.

Originally posted by bezado

Yup and that is another thing that they fail to meet at is armor creation and different colors styles that make people happy. Our raid guild had the most unhappy bunch of people when it came to the armor sets. The colors are really way off and not good looking for all the hard work you put into it.

I am betting the epic weapons will be normal old weapon models reskined with particle effects, nothing cool nothing new. My EOF armor set was almost pink, Vehement set in color and was no different then crafted armor in terms of looks really. If EQ2 DEVS want to make the game truly unique they would hire a new ART team and make some cool stuff. Ever seen the Korean artwork the Korean team did for armors on the Arasai update. Check the guards out around the Arasai camps town, they are very nicely done but by the DEVS outside the normal EQ2 team, some people have style and good art concepts others like this EQ2 regular team suck horribly in the art department.

I think if they made it possible to give solo and lesser guilds the ability to get the same epics but lets say a lesser version of them then it would be nice. Make them look less ubber of course but still give the players who are not in the ubber guilds a chance. Each server has maybe 1 to 3 guilds who are capable of doing end game raid content for the good stuff. Most servers it is 1 major guild but the percentage of players is about 2 to 3% of the actual server population who controls end game content and gear. Which is so sad when you think about it with the other problems introduced such as lack of intrest on some classes because of imbalance issues.

Whats the 97% of playersbase on each server going to do when it comes to giving them new cool stuff thats not achievable without elitest hardcore raiding guilds.

Just to let you know, they are doing the epics like Swords of Destiny. A legendary version for non raiders and a fabled epic for raiders so everyone can enjoy the epics is what they say.

Originally posted by QuietGamer

Wow. Ok, well I've never posted here before and I'm probably going to get bashed for this but ...What servers are you people playing on?  My husband and I play on Blackburrow and there seems to be lots of guilds working end game stuff. Obviously SoE will never be able to satisfy every single person but are you sure you've put as much effort into playing/ exploring  the game/ content as you have posting and complaining about it? Its a rpg game , not a fashion show.  I can log on and find stuff to do , even solo.. and my main is a Templar!..If people who are guilded can't even put together a 2 group raid for some updates,  thats just Sad. You need a new guild.  A new server , something...If its because the person is just whining well then log off and let the other people play it. Its a game that you pay to play. If your not happy with it then stop paying and playing and let others who do like it enjoy their time on it. There is plenty of other *easier* games for the simple folk. Like what was it on south park..Hello Kitty Island something?  Maybe go fish?  Come on people , its not that hard, but you do have to put a little effort into it. No one is going to Hand you an end game weapon and say here, you whined here you go.  If you can't take the tools we have currently and get what you want then maybe you should look to yourself for the solution, because you are so obviously the problem. I'm so tired of reading endless crap posts from people who try to sound like they know everything when the crap they spit out of their own mouth proves they know nothing. Maybe Hello Kitty or the local old folks home has a spot in their bingo game for you...

Great first post!