Trending Games | Wizard101 | Elder Scrolls Online | World of Warcraft | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,899,309 Users Online:0
Games:751  Posts:6,267,876
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Force of Arms

Force of Arms 

General Discussion  » Do Mechs get shot apart?

11 posts found
  User Deleted
 
OP  9/27/07 12:44:07 AM#1

I wonder if Mechs will use the same ol' hp system of, you have 50/50 life, you reach 0/50 you blow up, or if individual body parts such as arms, legs, heads... can be shot off or take dmg?

  fasa

Novice Member

Joined: 9/08/04
Posts: 67

9/27/07 12:51:05 AM#2

That would be really cool. Just like in the Mechwarrior series, if the mechs leg reaches a critical condition it is maimed, will lose alot of speed and cannot reverse or if you are shot in an area where there's a weapon you cannot use that weapon any more. This might be difficult to pull off in a mmorpg. Too bad they canceled Battletech 3025.

  badgerbadger

Novice Member

Joined: 4/05/07
Posts: 149

"Ooops...Just another backseat-developer..."

9/27/07 1:09:17 AM#3

  If you get a chance to read the interview on Force of Arms it mentions that the combat system was sufficiently detailed that it was cumbersome for "tabletop" play but is rewarded by computerized play (squad leader, anyone; lol)...

  I think this fairly well guarantess that this will NOT be  your cookie-cutter fantasy/everquest MMO combat model with different skins as we have seen before.

  Unlike many MMO's; this is being done by people who are fans of the game; rather than; as I suspect is the usual case; Devs who are just fans of older MMO's...

 There ARE - has always been - other ways to do things.  I expect we''ll see one alternative illustrated soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grCTXGW3sxQ

  Hamilton-NEO

Novice Member

Joined: 4/09/07
Posts: 75

NeoJav Developer

9/27/07 1:10:09 AM#4

Yes, locations can be destroyed or damaged, without causing the destruction or mission kill of the Mech (unless it is the Main Body or Cockpit).  Fighting Units do not use Hit Points, rather something similar to BattleTech.

Each Location (Arms, Legs, Main Bodies, Head, Turrets, Pods, etc) have specific armor locations, such as a Torso with 10 armor locations (Upper Torso, Center Torso, Lower Torso, Left Torso, Right Torso; and another five to the rear).  Each Armor Location has an Armor Rating, which is used to determine if that specific location can prevent the damage of a weapon from penetrating into the Chassis.  Depending on the amount of damage done by the weapon, the Armor Rating may be decreased; so successful hits may eventually end up penetrating.

Once Penetration occurs, the Chassis as well as internal systems may be damaged and or destroyed.

Also some weapons can cause high amounts of Shock Damage, which is basically the force of the impact of the shell or blast.  Sensitive electronics may be knocked off-line from the force of being hit by a 300mm shell; even if the armor was not penetrated.

And there are Energy Screens, which help to ward off Energy Based Weapons, as those weapons have a better chance of penetrating the armor.

We haven't made a firm decision about whether or not Legs can be blown off or just left intact, but non-functional.  There are pro's and con's for both sides.

Sign off,
Hamilton

  Hamilton-NEO

Novice Member

Joined: 4/09/07
Posts: 75

NeoJav Developer

9/27/07 1:12:52 AM#5

Originally posted by badgerbadger

  If you get a chance to read the interview on Force of Arms it mentions that the combat system was sufficiently detailed that it was cumbersome for "tabletop" play but is rewarded by computerized play (squad leader, anyone; lol)...

  I think this fairly well guarantess that this will nOT be  your cookie-cutter fantasy/everquest MMO combat model with different skins as we have seen before.

Heh, answered before I could.  Very well said.

Squad Leader... I wonder how many people have played that, let alone who actually know of it....

Sign off,
Hamilton

  User Deleted
 
OP  9/27/07 1:56:30 AM#6

Thank you for answering my ?, OH! btw, mabye you can consider me when closed-beta or mabye alpha? testing comes out. I'm just so excited i can barely hold my pants up!

  impulsebooks

Novice Member

Joined: 5/16/07
Posts: 561

9/28/07 8:50:33 AM#7

Originally posted by Hamilton-WDS

We haven't made a firm decision about whether or not Legs can be blown off or just left intact, but non-functional.  There are pro's and con's for both sides.


I hope bits can get blown off to be honest. It doesn't have to be legs, because that would present a serious problem if a mech was lamed that way but not killed outright--how would it get back to a hangar for repairs for instance.

But yes, I would like weapons and equipment to be blown off, arms maybe, bits of armour... just think, we could salvage battle fields and use the junk to upgrade our own mechs, or maybe recycle it to build new ones. That would be fantastic.

All this does bring to mind how the Resurrection system will work however. If my mech gets blown to bits (God for-fend!) and my avatar dies, how is he resurrected, or is he even resurrected? Perma death is right out in my opinion, but maybe not in others' opinions. Anyway, if I die and my mech is destroyed, do I wake up in a clone tank or something with a basic mech in a hangar somewhere to start over? Tat would be one hell of a death penalty!! Perhaps I have insurance on my mech as I would on my ships in Eve?

 

______________

Mark E. Cooper
AKA Tohrment
Proud member of Damned Souls since 2007.
http://www.damnedsouls.eu

  knas01

Novice Member

Joined: 10/16/04
Posts: 43

9/28/07 8:55:38 AM#8

Wow, internal damage.  Havent seen that since Mech Warrior 2, and now it's in a MMO. Couldn't be better. 

  Hamilton-NEO

Novice Member

Joined: 4/09/07
Posts: 75

NeoJav Developer

9/28/07 11:53:14 AM#9

Thanks all!

Originally posted by impulsebooks

I hope bits can get blown off to be honest. It doesn't have to be legs, because that would present a serious problem if a mech was lamed that way but not killed outright--how would it get back to a hangar for repairs for instance.

But yes, I would like weapons and equipment to be blown off, arms maybe, bits of armour... just think, we could salvage battle fields and use the junk to upgrade our own mechs, or maybe recycle it to build new ones. That would be fantastic.

All this does bring to mind how the Resurrection system will work however. If my mech gets blown to bits (God for-fend!) and my avatar dies, how is he resurrected, or is he even resurrected? Perma death is right out in my opinion, but maybe not in others' opinions. Anyway, if I die and my mech is destroyed, do I wake up in a clone tank or something with a basic mech in a hangar somewhere to start over? Tat would be one hell of a death penalty!! Perhaps I have insurance on my mech as I would on my ships in Eve?

 

Things being blown off, such as armor bits, is going to greatly depend (actually it will depend) on the physics engine that is to be supported.  There are engines available that can provide that level of detail of allowing armor chucks to fly off and be indented, leaking of fluids, etc.  I don't know about handling loot/salvage being blown off and being allowed to be picked up.  Sounds like a good idea... might be possible, say if something is not picked up in X seconds or minutes, then it either disappears and is lost or is automatically recovered by the original player.  Good idea, got to research that.

 

Character Death or Mech Loss:

Still debating that.  Character death is not Perma-Death in its true definition.  Character do have a finite life-span (due to combat related deaths only; aging is not used).  No hard numbers have been set as to how many clones of a character are available, and I suspect we won't know for certain until Beta is about done (we'll have to find that comfort zone with the players through testing).

The only way that there can be Heroes, is if there is some sort of sacrificed involved.  And since we allow characters to be capable skilled adults at start-up, that dread of starting over from level-0 grind is not present.

For Mechs, the starting Mech (or vehicle, aircraft) is considered part of the character, since the fighting unit was purchased by Character Points and not by credits.  So the starting unit won't be lost or completely destroyed; but could expect to be severly damaged and in need of repairs.  Additional fighting units should be expected to be lost if they are destroyed.  We do want to avoid the possibility of someone becoming Mechless as that would be easy to do, since fighting units cost in the multi-millions worth of credits.

Sign off,
Hamilton

  impulsebooks

Novice Member

Joined: 5/16/07
Posts: 561

9/29/07 2:26:56 AM#10

Originally posted by Hamilton-WDS

 

Character Death or Mech Loss:

... Character do have a finite life-span (due to combat related deaths only; aging is not used).  No hard numbers have been set as to how many clones of a character are available, and I suspect we won't know for certain until Beta is about done (we'll have to find that comfort zone with the players through testing).

The only way that there can be Heroes, is if there is some sort of sacrificed involved.  And since we allow characters to be capable skilled adults at start-up, that dread of starting over from level-0 grind is not present.


In a strange way then, players are not really investing time/energy in their avatars (they die permanently after a set number of clones) but are instead investing their time in their (for want of a better term) hangar inventories/mech companies, merc companies...etc not in the pilots. True?

This is a significant departure from most MMOs, where game x (insert well know fantasy MMO) is all about resurrecting the toon forever and keeping the players returning to play them forever. Does this difference worry you? Or will you have avatars "on tap" kind of thing, where as in a very old game called Syndicate you could enhance certain attributes of your team (for our purposes pilots) and pick which one to send on a mission.

Up until now, I had assumed the avatar would just be a walking graphic (no game/combat enhancing attributes) and that it was the mechs that you improved with upgrades etc. I am fine with this, it more realistic in a mech game.

If your avatars die after, for example only, 10 clonings I could see the longevity of the game being affected adversely. I think this because players are people not mechs, and they will prefer to associate themselves with the avatar not the machine. Its a bit like Eve, some people are happy to be a ship all the time, but I am not one of those. I would have the game mechanic for resurrections still be clones, because when your mech blows it blows up big time  but have the clones never run out as long as you pay your cloning fees/insurance.

I mean, what is the real difference between me playing on clone number 37, or me playing on a new avatar i had to created after my maximum clone number xyz died?

I'm not sure what you mean by the sacrifice factor of heroes... if you sacrifice your avatar and can't res him, then that makes him a dead hero at best. If you sacrifice him and then res him, he would be a poor hero as the player really lost nothing.

In a mech game, the mental anguish of losing your shiny powerful mech is surely the only real sacrifice possible?

 

 

 

______________

Mark E. Cooper
AKA Tohrment
Proud member of Damned Souls since 2007.
http://www.damnedsouls.eu

  Mordacai

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/13/06
Posts: 310

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand Binary and those that do not.

9/30/07 9:51:55 AM#11

Originally posted by impulsebooks

 

Originally posted by Hamilton-WDS

We haven't made a firm decision about whether or not Legs can be blown off or just left intact, but non-functional.  There are pro's and con's for both sides.


I hope bits can get blown off to be honest. It doesn't have to be legs, because that would present a serious problem if a mech was lamed that way but not killed outright--how would it get back to a hangar for repairs for instance.

 

But yes, I would like weapons and equipment to be blown off, arms maybe, bits of armour... just think, we could salvage battle fields and use the junk to upgrade our own mechs, or maybe recycle it to build new ones. That would be fantastic.

All this does bring to mind how the Resurrection system will work however. If my mech gets blown to bits (God for-fend!) and my avatar dies, how is he resurrected, or is he even resurrected? Perma death is right out in my opinion, but maybe not in others' opinions. Anyway, if I die and my mech is destroyed, do I wake up in a clone tank or something with a basic mech in a hangar somewhere to start over? Tat would be one hell of a death penalty!! Perhaps I have insurance on my mech as I would on my ships in Eve?

 

Just something I wanted to drudge up since it had some relevancy, an exert from a post  from our forum boards we like to call...

"The Mech Commandments"

When thy mech is immobilized, thou shall become a pillbox.

When thy mech is disarmed, thou shall become a bunker.

When thy time has run out, thou shall become a hero.

http://www.forceofarms.com/index.php