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  Stradden

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OP  9/28/07 12:00:24 PM#1

Today, Jon Wood takes a quick look at a recently released book detailing the history of The Syndicate, a large guild with a presence in the classic Ultima Online and the juggernaut World of Warcraft.

It isn’t often that we present an article about a book here at MMORPG.com. Frankly, there really haven’t been that many written on the subject of MMORPGs, so you can imagine my reaction when a copy of “Legend of the Syndicate” made its way to my door for review.

Legend of the Syndicate’s sub title is “A History of Online Gaming’s Premier Guild (yes, I know that there would be a number of guilds that would probably dispute that, but it’s the title of the book). The book is written by Sean Stalzer (“Dragons” to anyone who might be familiar with The Syndicate), the guild leader.

Read it all here.

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Jon Wood
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  Valance

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9/28/07 1:31:58 PM#2

This is odd. I've never even heard of this guild. When you look at who has the various world first raid kills in WoW, this guild never came up. I didn't play UO, but has anyone out there actually heard of this guild?

  Ozmodan

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9/28/07 2:49:27 PM#3

Well I played UO and was a head counselor there for some time, never heard of them and there were some very good guilds on some of the UO shards.

Not demeaning the book, nice that he wrote it, but he has delusions of grandeur if he thinks that is a premier guild lol.

  User Deleted
9/28/07 3:22:51 PM#4

 

Originally posted by Valance

This is odd. I've never even heard of this guild. When you look at who has the various world first raid kills in WoW, this guild never came up. I didn't play UO, but has anyone out there actually heard of this guild?

 

 

Yes, I've heard of them.

Apparently, they were recently, very involved with Prima Games and Turbine. They contributed to the LotRO Official Game Guide.

 

  draco823

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9/28/07 3:29:07 PM#5

I was part of SiN (The Syndicate) for a very short while on the great lakes shard in Ultima Online. They are by far the biggest and most persistant guild id ever seen in UO at that time. At one point they even tried to tax people to get into moonglow (a town) by blocking every entrance and waging war on every other guild there. Eventually I ended up against them in an opposing guild but man were the wars some of the best.

  Dameonk

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9/28/07 4:15:36 PM#6

I've only heard of the guild in passing, just like 100s of other guilds.

Honestly, if you didn't play on a server that they were on, why would you have heard of them?

"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

  User Deleted
9/28/07 4:18:02 PM#7

I belonged to a guild called "Raven Syndicate".  No.. not the guild in this article but im getting to that

These guys had the audacity to threaten our guild leader with legal actions for using the word "syndicate" in our guild name.  This guild pressued our leader to change the name of our guild or he would get his lawyers involved.  The person who contacted us claimed they had specific rights to the name "Syndicate"

This guilds leader seems to be extremely egotistacal.  Not just for trying to lay claims on a very generic word such as "Syndicate", but to go out and write a novel calling themselves Legend and trying to promote this as some sort of guild/clan cookbook is ridiculous.

Oh, our leader insisted the leader of The Syndicate get his lawyers involved.  Nothing ever came of the matter except an empty threat.

  Darsat

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9/28/07 4:45:35 PM#8

I remember them in UO on the final week of beta at the forge passing out gold while everyone pked eachother.  Other than that never saw them again.

  Jadetooth

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9/28/07 5:00:07 PM#9

"The Syndicate"? ... never heard of them, ever.. not even once. now, Nihilum, there's a WoW guild most people know.. they should write a book instead >_>

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  Paks

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9/28/07 5:02:19 PM#10

Seriously, wth?

  draco823

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9/28/07 5:23:58 PM#11

I dunno, i guess when you know them you realize why they were so famous. However, on our shard, they were very short lived. Did a lot in a little bit of time and then I believe they all took leave to another shard. In my eyes they live up to the word "legend" but no more then many other of the guilds that were there

  ABRaquel

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9/28/07 7:26:11 PM#12

If the book was more about Guilds in general, it would even be interesting, but the fact that this so called "leader" names his guild something that its not.

I'm in one of the oldest guilds out there and like so many other older guilds (and more interesting ones), we don't prance around like we are god almighty.

Its a book that I will avoid.

  Pariahnine

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9/28/07 7:58:32 PM#13

They existed primarily on the Atlantic shard.  I interacted with them on a regular basis.  Not very impressive in terms of players. Very egotistical, take their gaming entirely too seriously.  The kind of folks that make me want to smack them in the mouth when I encounter them in the real world.  Large guild, yeah... Premier guild, not so much.

  berdoingg

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9/28/07 8:05:25 PM#14

I've never heard of them either. I guess that makes the book awful. I prefer reading and re-reading the thousands of books written by people who've led guilds I've heard of, been a member of, and really respect. Jeez.

  Impyriel

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9/29/07 12:36:31 AM#15

$11.16 that could be better spent on just about anything else in the entire world.

  PrinnySquad

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Dood!

9/29/07 12:51:16 AM#16

Noisome unwarranted hubris.

  Sornin

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9/29/07 2:01:27 AM#17

A mediocre guild who trademarked their name releasing a book...talk about being conceited. Most gamers never have heard of this guild as it has not had any real influence in the MMORPG world, except for the trademarking shenanigan.

It is difficult to not write this book off as an attempt to further inflate their already monumental ego.

  Tambourine

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9/29/07 2:05:17 AM#18
Originally posted by Rayx0r

I belonged to a guild called "Raven Syndicate".  No.. not the guild in this article but im getting to that

These guys had the audacity to threaten our guild leader with legal actions for using the word "syndicate" in our guild name.  This guild pressued our leader to change the name of our guild or he would get his lawyers involved.  The person who contacted us claimed they had specific rights to the name "Syndicate"

This guilds leader seems to be extremely egotistacal.  Not just for trying to lay claims on a very generic word such as "Syndicate", but to go out and write a novel calling themselves Legend and trying to promote this as some sort of guild/clan cookbook is ridiculous.

Oh, our leader insisted the leader of The Syndicate get his lawyers involved.  Nothing ever came of the matter except an empty threat.


Wow... just wow. That's utterly ridiculous.

  ormstunga

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9/29/07 3:03:55 AM#19

Originally posted by Tambourine
Originally posted by Rayx0r

I belonged to a guild called "Raven Syndicate".  No.. not the guild in this article but im getting to that

These guys had the audacity to threaten our guild leader with legal actions for using the word "syndicate" in our guild name.  This guild pressued our leader to change the name of our guild or he would get his lawyers involved.  The person who contacted us claimed they had specific rights to the name "Syndicate"

This guilds leader seems to be extremely egotistacal.  Not just for trying to lay claims on a very generic word such as "Syndicate", but to go out and write a novel calling themselves Legend and trying to promote this as some sort of guild/clan cookbook is ridiculous.

Oh, our leader insisted the leader of The Syndicate get his lawyers involved.  Nothing ever came of the matter except an empty threat.


Wow... just wow. That's utterly ridiculous.


Not the first I've heard about this. These guys (or at least the guildmaster afaik) are the joke of the gaming world. Trademarking 'Syndicate' and threatening guilds with legal action... just mind boggling. Talk about 15minutes of quasi-fame. Who in their right mind would buy this book except maybe members of 'The Syndicate'.

I wouldnt go down so hard on em if this was infact a nice guild with some kind of influence on the community in a good way... but it's just a bunch of mediocre gamers jerking ppl around with a large guild to back them up. Thinking a book like this is of any interest to anyone except your own guildies shows a slight touch of megalomania.  

  Flummoxed

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9/29/07 7:43:14 AM#20
Originally posted by Valance

This is odd. I've never even heard of this guild. When you look at who has the various world first raid kills in WoW, this guild never came up. I didn't play UO, but has anyone out there actually heard of this guild?


Yes during UO Beta I remember searching for guilds online and even then they were a large group.

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