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nttg Novice Member Joined: 8/26/07 Posts: 9	9/15/07 10:15:34 AM#1 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Well i was bored so i did a big research on Youtube and found this!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=h48yRo255fU And some of you say the combat is slow!? pfff edit: link
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Battlekruse Novice Member Joined: 12/28/06 Posts: 1492 "Enough research will tend to support whatever theory.."	9/15/07 10:28:27 AM#2 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) heh, That Orc choppa harvested the two Priest of Sigma pretty fast in the end of the film clip. On a sidenote I dislike that techno/posh music there was used in the film. *"Do you wanna play chicken...? "*
Enforcer71 Advanced Member Joined: 12/25/05 Posts: 759 Live and Learn.. Then Die and forget it all.	9/15/07 11:02:28 AM#3 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nttg Well i was bored so i did a big research on Youtube and found this!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=h48yRo255fU And some of you say the combat is slow!? pfff Fixed the link for you Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there, 80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters. Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior, and he will bring the others home. -Heraclitus 500BC
SpiritofGame Novice Member Joined: 11/30/03 Posts: 1331	9/15/07 11:42:48 AM#4 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Looks like a good pace of combat. Btw, just for the record, I believe the only good Greenskin is a dead Greenskin. But ... we'll deal with that in February.
Kshahdoo Novice Member Joined: 8/06/07 Posts: 513	9/15/07 1:13:54 PM#5 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by SpiritofGame Looks like a good pace of combat. Btw, just for the record, I believe the only good Greenskin is a dead Greenskin. But ... we'll deal with that in February. I will beat da bejesus outta you, stupid human! Orcs will rule da world!!! PS That choppa wasnt bad but his opponents were noobs. BTW he was healed badly, and I've heard there wont be any heal bots in WAR...
Nyii Novice Member Joined: 9/16/07 Posts: 26	9/16/07 4:42:14 AM#6 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Looks like WoW...
ormstunga Apprentice Member Joined: 10/22/04 Posts: 750 stupid is as stupid does	9/16/07 4:49:32 AM#7 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Nyii Looks like WoW... Which is to say alot of ppl will probably like it
Thrage Novice Member Joined: 8/24/07 Posts: 202 Slayer of Internet Dragons	9/16/07 6:40:37 AM#8 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) You mean the guy who runs around in circles the most wins? How is this not exactly like Warcraft?
Kremlik Apprentice Member Joined: 6/08/06 Posts: 691	9/16/07 6:58:19 AM#9 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by harg Originally posted by Thrage You mean the guy who runs around in circles the most wins? How is this not exactly like Warcraft? You can't pass through enemy players, there wasn't any bunny hopping in the video, and the more you run around someone the lower your chance to hit. So people can run in circles if they want but they won't be doing very much. If you'd read up on the game mechanics you would know this. Tis' true.. Although IMO WoW was a step backwards gameplay wise it did highlight a lot of 'dos and don'ts' for MMORPGs, WAR is one of those 'step forwards' in combat and a lot of other areas on paper look to be improvements on the 'cookiecutter' MMO hopfully.. That said WAR isn't WoW-2, it's Warhammer Fantasy Online, TBH, no offence to anyone here and this isn't aimed at anyone, if your trying to compear any game to anyother game IMO your looking for excuses no to play it, each game is it own game and there will be a lot out soon.. Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
nttg Novice Member Joined: 8/26/07 Posts: 9	9/16/07 11:19:49 AM#10 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Nyii Looks like WoW... That was a constructive post sir! what did you expect how it would look like?
Archin Novice Member Joined: 6/14/07 Posts: 104	9/16/07 12:41:34 PM#11 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Nyii Looks like WoW... With time you will get out of living in denial, you will accept that for the last 2 years of your life you have payed Blizzard for a cheap rip-off.. don't worry abotu all that lost time. Anyway we shall see you in WAR once you get there.
Thrage Novice Member Joined: 8/24/07 Posts: 202 Slayer of Internet Dragons	9/16/07 1:20:58 PM#12 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by harg Originally posted by Thrage You mean the guy who runs around in circles the most wins? How is this not exactly like Warcraft? You can't pass through enemy players, there wasn't any bunny hopping in the video, and the more you run around someone the lower your chance to hit. So people can run in circles if they want but they won't be doing very much. If you'd read up on the game mechanics you would know this. Reading be damned, I'm reporting on what I saw in that video. The guy that ran around in circles won because the other guy couldn't keep up with that. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video must be even better.
Azurus Novice Member Joined: 1/02/07 Posts: 30	9/16/07 1:38:19 PM#13 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Thrage Originally posted by harg Originally posted by Thrage You mean the guy who runs around in circles the most wins? How is this not exactly like Warcraft? You can't pass through enemy players, there wasn't any bunny hopping in the video, and the more you run around someone the lower your chance to hit. So people can run in circles if they want but they won't be doing very much. If you'd read up on the game mechanics you would know this. Reading be damned, I'm reporting on what I saw in that video. The guy that ran around in circles won because the other guy couldn't keep up with that. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video must be even better. Of course, it could just be that the circler is an ex-wow player and is simply used to doing that (and doesn't know there is a penalty for it). As for the guy who can't keep up - people too slow to do that will lose in any game. Because they're poor players. I think this is a case of a rubbish player being beaten by a slightly less rubbish player - about what you'd expect in a beta really.
Nyii Novice Member Joined: 9/16/07 Posts: 26	9/16/07 6:06:27 PM#14 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) WaR may have many nice things going for it, but I am still far from impressed as hyped as it is.
Kshahdoo Novice Member Joined: 8/06/07 Posts: 513	9/17/07 10:13:21 AM#15 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It doesnt look like WoW, it's just played by wower. As to look WoW pvp looks much better so far. And to those who dont like to move. Moving is a crucial point in any good combat game. And in RL. Moving is a life, standing still is a death... WoW is a good combat game (there are even WoW cybersport tournaments, you know), and WAR... Perhaps it's gonna be good for cocky roleplayers (I really know this type of people - got 10 years pen and paper RPG experience myself), but as to average MMORPG players, they will chose an action...
Lucifrank Novice Member Joined: 10/23/06 Posts: 356 "Those who are willing to forsake their civil liberties for security deserve neither."	9/17/07 10:49:08 AM#16 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by harg Originally posted by Kshahdoo It doesnt look like WoW, it's just played by wower. As to look WoW pvp looks much better so far. And to those who dont like to move. Moving is a crucial point in any good combat game. And in RL. Moving is a life, standing still is a death... WoW is a good combat game (there are even WoW cybersport tournaments, you know), and WAR... Perhaps it's gonna be good for cocky roleplayers (I really know this type of people - got 10 years pen and paper RPG experience myself), but as to average MMORPG players, they will chose an action... Real life melee combat with medieval European weapons and armour would not feature running around your opponent constantly swinging. That would be a quick fire route to death, moving and swinging weapons in real life is exhausting you know. Ofcourse you would have to move but not the way it is with WoW. And in my opinion WAR's PvP already looks better than WoW's, collision detection is a vast improvement on WoW's players running through ech others body's to interrupt spells and break line of sight. The Atmosphere looks and sounds better aswell with the sound effects, the explosians look awesome with the dirt flying into the air, the engineers gun firing sounds great aswell. WoW's PvP is just an attempt to implement Unreal Tournament and Quake Arena style fighting without the ability to dodge (although i have seen many players attempt to dodge attacks.....sigh). Yes, from the videos so far, WAR's PvP looks far superior to anything out there ATM in the MMORPG realm. People who are testy about spellcasters being stationary while casting just have to look at it in practical terms. Casting spells is a mental task, not a physical one. Casting while running would be the equivalent of doing your taxes while you're flying a plane. Sure, it's not impossible, but you wouldn't be doing an effective job of either doing both simultaneously. Also, heavily armored combatants SHOULD not be hopping around like bunnies. Even as early as pen-and-paper D&D, people clad in plate and heavy mail were encumbered by their armor and could not move as quickly as those clad in cloth or leather. This, on top of the fact that wizards won't be jumping around spamming AOEs and DPS classes won't have get-out-of-jail-free cards like stealth easy button mode ensure that the PvP in WAR should be much more balanced and require a lot more strategy than the current button-mashing and spamming that ensures victory in many of today's titles.
fl_fubar Apprentice Member Joined: 10/20/05 Posts: 14	9/17/07 11:08:04 AM#17 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I didn't realise that the circle strafing in WoW/WAR was looked down upon. I love it! It's like going from an FPS where to guys stand still and fire until one dies as opposed to running around shooting each other. Likewise, I find it boring as fudge when there is no emphasis whatsoever to move, meaning both players stand still and go '2--2--2--3--2-222--2--oh I win'. MEH! I'm really hoping they don't cripple your ability to hit when you are moving, that seems a bit silly. I want to be running around the place hacking people at 100mph, trying to evade people targeting me, getting behind them out of their FOV. It actually gives you something to DO apart from just pressing number keys. When I played WoW (heh, only got to 35 before I got sick of it) the PvP was always very boring until I saw my mate play it (ie. running about). Suddenly PvP was this fast paced game where you were constantly on the move, running, hitting spells, quickly running out of range, running back in. It was great! Granted bunny hopping is a bit dumb, but it's not like it makes much difference anyway, so I'll be happy if there is none of that in WAR. But as far as circle strafing, I don't see what's so bad about it.
Kshahdoo Novice Member Joined: 8/06/07 Posts: 513	9/17/07 11:14:24 AM#18 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Duh, never said wow moving is similar to RL. Just said you gotta move not stand still. In RL combat moving is much more sophisticated than in any game - dont tell me this, I know it myself. but in any good combat game you gotta move like this game takes. So in Q3 you gotta move quakish, in UT - utish, in WoW - WoWish. But I havent seen any WARish moving in WAR so far. Or sooner it's standing still that is WARish...
lekiz Novice Member Joined: 5/06/04 Posts: 172	9/17/07 11:24:47 AM#19 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) My hands are freezing. But, the video is great! WAAAGH!
Kshahdoo Novice Member Joined: 8/06/07 Posts: 513	9/17/07 11:36:30 AM#20 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by harg There are positional attacks in WAR so how will you get into position to use them............moving. "And to those who dont like to move. Moving is a crucial point in any good combat game. And in RL." So your telling me that statement was not meat to imply that WoW's movement was good because there is movement in real life........ Hehe, I know what that "positional attack" meant in DAoC. Just the same as I see now in WAR - standing still and shooting/hitting anyone who comes close enough... Especially it was right for casters... More or less. But what is more important WoW moving takes skill. The better you move the more chances you got... like it is in any good combat, virtual or real.