I hope to god it's a SC MMO...they already screwed over Ghost...and as said, Diablo is too played out since the devs left for other companies and are working on projects of their own...any new Diablo game would cause court cases

They need to make a new MMO IMO. They ruined WoW with TBC and the next expansion is more of the same from what I read. Specifically, BG's (no more world PvP) and no more 40 man raids ruined WoW for me. I truly hope Bliz is making a new MMO because I know they will do it right.

Originally posted by Farquania

That's too much of an assumption.

 

It is probably just to replace some older guys or they want a bigger, better team.  And they are making Starcraft 2 which means no Diablo 3.

 

They have too much to give up to just start a new idea.  Why would they do that when they can still make millions of more dollars with upgrades?

If they're just now hiring staff, the game itself won't be released for 4 or 5 more years.  WoW isn't going to keep it's insanely high subscriber numbers into 2012, and Blizzard isn't going to stop making MMOs just because they got one massive hit.   I'm not surprised at all to hear they're planning another MMO.

Maybe for the new WoW expansion? They want to get the work done in a year. They will need lots of people.

Or maybe a Diablo3 or a Starcraft MMO (Which I doubt, as they just announced starcraft 2)...

dunno could be anything.

Originally posted by bonobotheory

Originally posted by Farquania

That's too much of an assumption.

 

It is probably just to replace some older guys or they want a bigger, better team.  And they are making Starcraft 2 which means no Diablo 3.

 

They have too much to give up to just start a new idea.  Why would they do that when they can still make millions of more dollars with upgrades?

If they're just now hiring staff, the game itself won't be released for 4 or 5 more years.  WoW isn't going to keep it's insanely high subscriber numbers into 2012, and Blizzard isn't going to stop making MMOs just because they got one massive hit.   I'm not surprised at all to hear they're planning another MMO.

Exactly, the graphics are already getting a bit outdated... In another 2 years... WoW = oldskool

Considering it took 4 or 5 years to make WoW. If they started now they can release a new MMO around 2012. That would make it around 8 years since WoW's release and a perfect time to release a new MMO.

Originally posted by oakae

Considering it took 4 or 5 years to make WoW. If they started now they can release a new MMO around 2012. That would make it around 8 years since WoW's release and a perfect time to release a new MMO.

agreed

I third that agreement. If Blizz does otherwise, they'l be M$ all over again

Originally posted by johnmatthais

I third that agreement. If Blizz does otherwise, they'l be M$ all over again

agreed.

Originally posted by healz4u

 

Originally posted by cupertino

they have confirmed this and they have said "it will be innovative like nothing seen before".

 

Oh. I am excited.  Blizzard has made some great products:  Warcraft III: Frozen Throne; Starcraft; Diablo; et al.  Yes. I consider World of Warcraft a good product. 

 

At least I know where all the money they made from WoW is going!  It was smart not to put it into WoW with actually "good" expansions. 

Warcraft 3 blows more than the wind on a stormy night or a nurse who

Starcraft is THE  greatest RTS game of all time.
Warcraft 2 was amazing.
Diablo 2 is like WoW: somehow amazingly popular, but no one understands why because the game is boring after a week-month.

Originally posted by vesavius

 

Originally posted by cupertino

All we know is that they are working on another MMO, they have confirmed this and they have said "it will be innovative like nothing seen before".

We can rule out a Diablo MMO as thats a fantasy based MMO thats been done to death.  My money is on a Starcraft MMO after seeing what they are putting into Starcraft 2 (lore, an entire galaxy with planets they you can read into the lore of and the races that populate it) - in short adding a story and world to SC.. simialr to what they did with Warcraft 3 prior to WoW.

So right now If I could I would wager a dollar on a Starcraft MMO. but probably an RTS/MMO hybid.

False assumption I think.

 

Saying fantasy MMOs have been done to death is like saying fantasy novels have been done to death. Yet they still, after 50+ years, top the best seller lists... Shows a little of just how popular and enduring the fantasy genre is eh? The very reason devs choose fantasy as their medium is it's massive and almost universal fanbase.

What Blizzard *could* be suggesting is that their game *system* is innovative, which has, of course, nothing to do with genre.

So, lets not rule anything out yet.

It's so easy to confuse what you want to happen with what will happen.

I will take your dollar.

Would WoW be the same if it did not have the story and characters of warcraft III and frozen throne behind it?

I say "no way!" Warcraft III was not just a new warcraft, it added characters, villains, a compelling story spanning many races... added a lot of elements and basically made the warcraft world a lot fuller with stuff.... just ready for a mmorpg.

Now what game is blizzard releaseing in couple years? Starcraft 2. And you honestly believe they are NOT setting up this to bis their success with WoW?

To me it seems a very good marketing strategy and I would bet that is exactly what they think as well.

Look: WoW was announced in 2001, 2 years after warcraft 3 was announced. clearly development on the two titles overlapped somehow as warcaft 3 was released 2002 and WoW was in development before 2001.

now, 2007, they announce Starcraft 2. It is common knowledge they are also developing a new MMO together with it.... What else could it be really? it is a perfect schedule.

2008: announce Starcraft Galaxies

2009: release SC2

2010: release SC2: expansion pack

2011: Release Starcraft galaxies.

done and done.

Looks like they're making a safety net for WoW's inevitable fallout.

THEY ARE BRINGING BACK COMPLETELY NEW EPISODES OF DRAGON BALL Z!

Here is proof:  I AM GOKU AND I AM BRINGING BACK NEW EPISODES SSJ3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Elikal

Its a similar situation as Peter Jackson is in. With Lord of the Rings he has likely made the best movie he will ever make, and now, all he can do is 2nd best movies, which must be a depressing situation, and my guess it its similar for Blizzard with whatever MMOs they will make.  I am more interested in the general topic. Maybe the joke that Blizzard makes SWG 2 will come true, lol.

anyway, this is evident that blizzard is working on annother mmo...

Originally posted by ygscorp

 

Originally posted by Elikal

Its a similar situation as Peter Jackson is in. With Lord of the Rings he has likely made the best movie he will ever make, and now, all he can do is 2nd best movies, which must be a depressing situation, and my guess it its similar for Blizzard with whatever MMOs they will make.  I am more interested in the general topic. Maybe the joke that Blizzard makes SWG 2 will come true, lol.

lulz. considering lord of the ring as a good movie is like to said that Gw Bush is in fact someone really smart.

 

anyway, this is evident that blizzard is working on annother mmo...

he didnt really say it was a good movie, he said it was the best movie Peter will ever make in his opinion... but ye since when is l2read a recuirement for picking a fight on mmorpg.com forums 

Originally posted by cupertino

 "it will be innovative like nothing seen before".

This is Blizzard we are talking about right?

They have never once made a single game that is innovative, unless having a polished product is considered innovative in this genre lol

Most likely if they do make a mmorts, it will just be a dumbed down shattered galaxy with better graphics and a different story and few bugs. Although i doubt the last bit, i don't know what game these other guys are playing but the burning crusade was full of bugs this isn't the same team that made wow and that is obvious with the endgame content, and lack of polish on the burning crusade.

I really doubt blizzard will repeat the success of wow with any game, no company will. WoW came at a time when there was 2 real mmos everquest and ultima, both were full of problems, wow comes along and its a polished game, it was fun as well, although that changed after battlegrounds were poorly added.

There was no real choice for those looking for a good mmo, so they went to wow. That will not happen again theres plenty of mmos now, and their innovative features aren't  products that are actually playable on release and dumbed down so any idiot can play it. I am betting whatever blizzard make will just be an ultima clone, everquest clones have been done to death so they probably see a dumbed down ultima clone as a innovative product.

Originally posted by Scriar

 

Originally posted by cupertino

 "it will be innovative like nothing seen before".

This is Blizzard we are talking about right?

 They have never once made a single game that is innovative, unless having a polished product is considered innovative in this genre lol

I think WC1 was innovative, I might even consider D1 innovative. Blizzard has made ONE mmorpg, you can't label their entire history on WoW.

Originally posted by Scriar

 

Originally posted by cupertino

 "it will be innovative like nothing seen before".

This is Blizzard we are talking about right?

 

They have never once made a single game that is innovative, unless having a polished product is considered innovative in this genre lol

Most likely if they do make a mmorts, it will just be a dumbed down shattered galaxy with better graphics and a different story and few bugs. Although i doubt the last bit, i don't know what game these other guys are playing but the burning crusade was full of bugs this isn't the same team that made wow and that is obvious with the endgame content, and lack of polish on the burning crusade.

I really doubt blizzard will repeat the success of wow with any game, no company will. WoW came at a time when there was 2 real mmos everquest and ultima, both were full of problems, wow comes along and its a polished game, it was fun as well, although that changed after battlegrounds were poorly added.

There was no real choice for those looking for a good mmo, so they went to wow. That will not happen again theres plenty of mmos now, and their innovative features aren't  products that are actually playable on release and dumbed down so any idiot can play it. I am betting whatever blizzard make will just be an ultima clone, everquest clones have been done to death so they probably see a dumbed down ultima clone as a innovative product.

TBC was not 100% bug free on release (no mmo is bug free EVER) but there was nothing even close to game breaking on launch or now. As will all blizzard games. And I suggest you play TBC before commenting, cus comment like "full of bug" "not polished" suggest your just playing to the MMORPG elites to try and get into their exclusive club, and as we all know hating on wow and blizzard is the fast track to membership.

Originally posted by Ruthgar

Originally posted by Scriar

 

Originally posted by cupertino

 "it will be innovative like

nothing seen before".

This is Blizzard we are talking about right?

 They have never once made a single game that is innovative, unless having a polished product is considered innovative in this genre lol

I think WC1 was innovative, I might even consider D1 innovative. Blizzard has made ONE mmorpg, you can't label their entire history on WoW.

Wacraft 1 had been done before in other rts games same as starcraft, diablo 1 i agree was innovative but it was a different team who made it, it also wasn't revolutionary i am sure there was other hack and slash dungeon crawlers out then, they were just terrible.

And lastly i played wow for 2 years and saw for myself how the game went from being the best mmo out, to being another everquest clone, with little polish, poorly thought out design decisions and changes to gameplay that are arguably based on a small minority of no lifers.

I really doubt they are going to miraculously change their ways, especially when you look at their latest expansion for wow that will improve on nothing, its just burning crusade with different models and siege weapons that will just be a click on weapon wait for building to blow up affair.

edit: to the guy above me i have 4 level 70s ( hunter, druid,  bloodelf rogue, and a warrior also leveled up a warlock to 50 also a blood elf so i gave it a chance), the burning crusade was buggy at release the servers were just as instable as always, btw I don't hate blizzard i dont like the way they go about making games Its hardly hate, also all mmos aren't release with loads of bugs and instable servers look at lord of the rings was fine no bugs servers only went down for like an hour at the most.

Originally posted by Entreri28

They actually are making an MMO.  One of my sister's friends went to a school called Full Sail.  After he had graduated my sister said he got a job at blizzard.  She gave me his AIM and I asked him about Full Sail, one of my questions was "Would I learn what I needed to make MMORPG's?"  He responded "I would say so since I'am working on one."  This was like a year ago, and you didn't hear it from me.

and he couldn't be working on wow now could he.